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Have you suffered for doing the right thing? I'm sure you have!

Spiderman

Veteran Member

Have you ever done the right thing and didn't like the consequences. Like be persecuted for your crusade against that dreadful Covid vaccine.

(It was a joke :p )

In all seriousness though, I know I have been burned for deeds of charity like letting a homeless person out of the cold and into my apartment and he ran off with my phone, wallet, backpack, and other things of value.

Sometimes life also doesn't make sense and we simply don't know where we went wrong.

I'm sure some of you did everything you could to raise a kid right and they turned out messed up doing much of what you raised them not to do, or tried to make a marriage work by being a good spouse to the best of your ability, following your conscience, being altruistic, and it had the opposite effect apparently.

I find that I was more happy when I was not sober, but I was also delusional, immature, offensive, creepy, inappropriate, and inconsiderate of others. That has improved with a few months sober time. I'm not as happy , but that is the sacrifice I have to make. Plus much of my happiness and peace was based off a chemical-induced delusion. Something to consider.

Anyone who believes Christian Theology believes Jesus did the right things, and people shouted Barabas the murderer get released, and shouted "Crucify him", regarding the fate of Christ ( as a direct result of the example he left, which Christians believe to be blameless.)

I'm sure anyone who follows the Old Testament knows that many Prophets were stoned to death or violently murdered by their "own people" for doing what is right.

If you have a troubled strained marriage, persecution and antagonism at work or school, trouble with children etc. , being a good person and doing good deeds could have negative consequences. Right?

Can you think of any examples in your life?

Overall, staying sober and not being selfish will make life better, but there are many exceptions to that rule. In Christian Theology or at least in tradition, the blood of the martyrs was the seed of Christianity , and if you take away the Cross (suffering), you take away the glorious resurrection.

Also, a popular tradition especially in early Christianity was that it was the greatest honor, sacrifice, and achievement to suffer or die for doing the right thing.

Thoughts?
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I'm sure some of you did everything you could to raise a kid right and they turned out messed up doing much of what you raised them not to do

Something which I'm finding to be true, is that kids turn out not so much like you raised them, but as a combination of not only their upbringing, but what the parents themselves were like when they were teenagers/young adults. And some of those parents, not all, were probably wild.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
For example, my mom was attracted to more or less paganism as a young adult. Later on, she became Christian and tried to raise a Christian household.

Meanwhile, I turned out like the old her, rather than the new her in which she already was Christian when she tried to raise me.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member

Have you ever done the right thing and didn't like the consequences. Like be persecuted for your crusade against that dreadful Covid vaccine.

(It was a joke :p )

In all seriousness though, I know I have been burned for deeds of charity like letting a homeless person out of the cold and into my apartment and he ran off with my phone, wallet, backpack, and other things of value.

Sometimes life also doesn't make sense and we simply don't know where we went wrong.

I'm sure some of you did everything you could to raise a kid right and they turned out messed up doing much of what you raised them not to do, or tried to make a marriage work by being a good spouse to the best of your ability, following your conscience, being altruistic, and it had the opposite effect apparently.

I find that I was more happy when I was not sober, but I was also delusional, immature, offensive, creepy, inappropriate, and inconsiderate of others. That has improved with a few months sober time. I'm not as happy , but that is the sacrifice I have to make. Plus much of my happiness and peace was based off a chemical-induced delusion. Something to consider.

Anyone who believes Christian Theology believes Jesus did the right things, and people shouted Barabas the murderer get released, and shouted "Crucify him", regarding the fate of Christ ( as a direct result of the example he left, which Christians believe to be blameless.)

I'm sure anyone who follows the Old Testament knows that many Prophets were stoned to death or violently murdered by their "own people" for doing what is right.

If you have a troubled strained marriage, persecution and antagonism at work or school, trouble with children etc. , being a good person and doing good deeds could have negative consequences. Right?

Can you think of any examples in your life?

Overall, staying sober and not being selfish will make life better, but there are many exceptions to that rule. In Christian Theology or at least in tradition, the blood of the martyrs was the seed of Christianity , and if you take away the Cross (suffering), you take away the glorious resurrection.

Also, a popular tradition especially in early Christianity was that it was the greatest honor, sacrifice, and achievement to suffer or die for doing the right thing.

Thoughts?
I suffer endlessly for doing what I believe is the right thing.
That's one reason I am still here on RF.
 
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