He Gets Us - I think this one was on the Super Bowl

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Do you remember this from a few days ago? You seemed to be implying that Christianity sells itself on the strength of its message rather than through a millennia-long campaign to propagate it:

Kenny: "Propaganda" would be forgotten in 10 to 20 years - but the message has continued for millenniums​

It Aint Necessarily SO: So has the propaganda. Look at the word and its root. People have been propagating this religion and its scriptures all of that time, sometimes at the point of a crusader's or conquistadore's sword, sometimes with missionaries, sometimes in Sunday schools, sometimes by putting Bibles in hotel rooms, and even sometimes advertising during the Super Bowl. Super Bowl ads will tout Jesus 'gets us' to the masses - ABC News (go.com)
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Christianity is a business. It's how you support yourself. It's why there are as many churches as banks, gas stations, and fast food restaurants. I just looked at a list of Super Bowl advertisers praised for their commercials. Every one is a business: Sam Adams, Uber, Pepsi Zero Sugar, Bud Light, GM, Netflix, and Crown Royal.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why not stop trying to tell us what we meant and what our posts are?

Why not stop beating your wife?

 

[Kenny]

Advertising for Jesus to me reduces him to a commodity like beer or some politician.

As ambassadors -‘in essence we all advertise

 

[Kenny]

Religious television advertising would be banned in Germany, as was the case with the Power for Living campaign (2001).

However, religious services may be shown, and in such programs, religious books and media may be promoted (as long it's not a mere shopping program).

Apparently the German state considers its citizens incapable of distinguishing a Bible from a hamburger.

What was the reason for banning advertisement?

 

[Kenny]

I watched part of the Super Bowl yesterday, but I didn't see this commercial.

Well, my view is, if Jesus wants to come down and resolve this current mess of dissension and discord, then I won't stand in the way. I don't expect that will ever happen, though. But you never know.

I understand! We are banking on that he will!

 

[Kenny]

Interesting! I thought it was encouraging, accepting and life giving

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Crown Royal

That wasn't a Crown Royal commercial, it was Dave Grohl telling us what cool things have come from Canada.

 

[Kenny]

I'm going to take the other side and say helping people's spiritual perspective is more than worth that money.

I agree

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Why not stop beating your wife?

It is impossible for me to do such a thing. But you did insist another poster was being insincere (that is a part of being glib). Just like you tried to tell me what my views really are regarding Super Bowl merchandise, to the point you called bull**** after I explained my position.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

As ambassadors -‘in essence we all advertise

There's a difference between representing and advertising.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I wonder how much money they spent for ads that only helped reinforce existing believers. Couldn't this money have been better spent feeding hungry children, and getting sick, poor people healthcare they need?

If Christianity needs to vromote itself perhaps demand more rational thinking from it's followers, and explaining what their morals ought to be.

To say "Jesus gets us" is more feeding the insecurities of ego, and feeding ego itself. I don't see this helping the believer be more like Jesus.

It was around 2 million dollars. Just for the ad spot from what i hear..

 

[Revoltingest]

It is impossible for me to do such a thing.

Good.
You understand the idea of a loaded question.

 

[Kenny]

Do you remember this from a few days ago? You seemed to be implying that Christianity sells itself on the strength of its message rather than through a millennia-long campaign to propagate it:

Kenny: "Propaganda" would be forgotten in 10 to 20 years - but the message has continued for millenniums​

It Aint Necessarily SO: So has the propaganda. Look at the word and its root. People have been propagating this religion and its scriptures all of that time, sometimes at the point of a crusader's or conquistadore's sword, sometimes with missionaries, sometimes in Sunday schools, sometimes by putting Bibles in hotel rooms, and even sometimes advertising during the Super Bowl. Super Bowl ads will tout Jesus 'gets us' to the masses - ABC News (go.com)
​

Christianity is a business. It's how you support yourself. It's why there are as many churches as banks, gas stations, and fast food restaurants. I just looked at a list of Super Bowl advertisers praised for their commercials. Every one is a business: Sam Adams, Uber, Pepsi Zero Sugar, Bud Light, GM, Netflix, and Crown Royal.

I didn’t see it as propaganda but rather sharing the message - yes the power is in the message and we do propagate it

it is a business in the sense that it is God’s business and his business is about people

 

[Exaltist Ethan]

I went on their website. They offer t-shirts with their message on it for free, working on donations. Why can't all t-shirts be like that? T-Shirts online with a message on them are often $25 or more if you include shipping. And custom t-shirts are often even more than that.

 

[John53]

I didn't tell him what he meant or can't say.
So you needn't get all huffy over that straw man.
I recognize glib bull **** when I see it.

I need an ad campaign to let me know what glib means.

 

[fantome profane]

I didn’t see it as propaganda but rather sharing the message - yes the power is in the message and we do propagate it

it is a business in the sense that it is God’s business and his business is about people

I went on their website. They offer t-shirts with their message on it for free, working on donations. Why can't all t-shirts be like that? T-Shirts online with a message on them are often $25 or more if you include shipping. And custom t-shirts are often even more than that.

I wonder if God gets a percentage.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Good.
You understand the idea of a loaded question.

Do you understand what it is when someone says something and someone else says "this is what you really meant"?

 

[Kenny]

There's a difference between representing and advertising.

Maybe technically - but as I represent I am advertising

 

[Kenny]

I wonder if God gets a percentage.

It’s all God’s - we are stewards

 

[F1fan]

As ambassadors -‘in essence we all advertise

Including the naive bad examples that many Christians are oblivious of being. Good people tend to be good Christians. Bad people? The Word and its messages doesn’t make them good.