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Helios and Jesus are one and the same

herushura

Active Member
I been studying more originity of religions, and have read that Helios and the Caanite EL are one and the Same, Helios is the sun god, he can be identified with EL, Baal and Ra. Baal is also identified with Hercules and Zeus. Baal a Sun god and the same as El, infact Helios as el withen the name, clearly Helios and El are one and same. Baal was also called Son of God*El, after jesus died he preached El, as he said El, El why have you foresaken me, jesus did not preach yhwh he preached El, is El the caanite pantheon god jesus's father, if so then jesus is identified as baal-el and Helios, the iconography between Helios and Jesus are so similer then they can be confused with one and the same, but are they, they both portrayed with crown of thorn, a big circle and cross behind the Head, Sol was the equivilent to Helios his icongrahpy are extremely similer with circle crosses behing the head and crown of thorns, infact december 25th to the romans was Sol invictus "birthday of the Sol" Sol
thus the same birthday as Helios and even MithRA, but if Helios is the same as El then dec-25 is El and Ras birthday, this makes sense anyways in logical because being sun gods, dec25 is the birthday to them anyways as the winter soltice begins on 23 and end on 25 and then day get longer thus the birth of the sun-El helios,Sol,Ra,Jesus,Mithra,Baal. thus jesus, helios, sol, ra, el, baal, mithra are one and the same
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
*pats you on the head* Your daftness never ceases to amaze me... I love you.

Most historians and Biblical scholars, whether Christian or not, believe Jesus was a real person.

Graham N. Stanton writes, "Today nearly all historians, whether Christians or not, accept that Jesus existed and that the gospels contain plenty of valuable evidence which has to be weighed and assessed critically. There is general agreement that, with the possible exception of Paul, we know far more about Jesus of Nazareth than about any first- or second century Jewish or pagan religious teacher."[17] Atheist New Testament scholar William Arnal writes, "No one in mainstream New Testament scholarship denies that Jesus was a Jew." [18]

Historical Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You seem to think that Christians seriously believe that Jesus was born in December. You're wrong. Many many know it is not, but that's not the point - it's the spirit that matters of Christmas.

In fact, Jesus would have been born in Summer or Autumn (I forget which, exactly) - not December. Many Christians realize this. It's easier to take over a Paganized day, though, instead of giving another day when Jesus' birthday is not exactly known.
 
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herushura

Active Member
*pats you on the head* Your daftness never ceases to amaze me... I love you.

Most historians and Biblical scholars, whether Christian or not, believe Jesus was a real person.

You seem to think that Christians seriously believe that Jesus was born in December. You're wrong. Many many know it is not, but that's not the point - it's the spirit that matters of Christmas.

In fact, Jesus would have been born in Summer or Autumn (I forget which, exactly) - not December. Many Christians realize this. It's easier to take over a Paganized day, though, instead of giving another day when Jesus' birthday is not exactly known.

There 2 astrological bodys that are significant, Orion and The Sun, The Sun stops for 3 days on dec 23 and then on 25 the sun moves a degree north to expand the days and bring forth Spring, the Sun coming from the North is symbolized by santa claus who lives in the North Pole, santa the big red guy is the big red sun. The Sun and Santa come from the North to bring "Warmth" Warmth is the greatest gift but this warmth is symbolized by the Giving of presents and the christmas light on december 25th.

The Orions belt has 3 stars this is symbolized by the 3 wise men, and the 3 sons of Noah, noah is sirius, in Egypt the Rising of Sirius (July 17) July 17 is the ancient egyptians new year, July 17 is also the start of the flood season in ancient egypt, were the nile would rise as does sirius rises. they would never build bridges across the nile as they belived it would distrupt the natural order, instead they build arks and ferry across, now you see why noahs ark and the ark of the CO-venent are sacred storys. The Nile in astrological sense is the Milyway, it looks like a river that splits ther sky in two same as the nile that split egypt in two the 3 orions belt*3 sons of noah, are the 3 pyramids and the great pyramid is Osiris*Noah. July is the 6 month from winter soltice thus why noah was 600 years old when floods start the flood would last about 1.5 months thus the flood state that it lasts 150 days.the animal they save are the animal zodiacs, the ram, goat and the Bull.





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Pope and Ra, Pope is an Egyptian wanabee,



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Vatican was built as a New Heliopolis, Heliopolis is the City of the Sun, as is Vatican. vatican as a obelisk that dedicated to the Sun god Ra, plus vatican was a place of Mithras worship in 600bc, you see the egyptian never died they just moved to vatican
 
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Breathe

Hostis humani generis
There 2 astrological bodys that are significant, Orion and The Sun, The Sun stops for 3 days on dec 23 and then on 25 the sun moves a degree north to expand the days and bring forth Spring, the Sun coming from the North is symbolized by santa claus who lives in the North Pole, santa the big red guy is the big red sun. The Sun and Santa come from the North to bring "Warmth" Warmth is the greatest gift but this warmth is symbolized by the Giving of presents and the christmas light on december 25th.
*pats you on the head*
Santa Claus is from Saint Nicholas. The "Santa Claus" that you speak of is a corporation invention. But I don't really expect you to know it.

The Orions belt has 3 stars this is symbolized by the 3 wise men, and the 3 sons of Noah, noah is sirius,
Where do you get this codswallop?

in Egypt the Rising of Sirius (July 17) July 17 is the ancient egyptians new year, July 17 is also the start of the flood season in ancient egypt, were the nile would rise as does sirius rises. they would never build bridges across the nile as they belived it would distrupt the natural order, instead they build arks and ferry across, now you see why noahs ark and the ark of the CO-venent are sacred storys.

The Nile in astrological sense is the Milyway, it looks like a river that splits ther sky in two same as the nile that split egypt in two the 3 orions belt*3 sons of noah, are the 3 pyramids and the great pyramid is Osiris*Noah. July is the 6 month from winter soltice thus why noah was 600 years old when floods start the flood would last about 1.5 months thus the flood state that it lasts 150 days.the animal they save are the animal zodiacs, the ram, goat and the Bull.

Uhm. You write a lot, unfortunately it's not very convincing, and not very accurate.


Pope and Ra, Pope is an Egyptian wanabee,
:spit: You sound like you listen to Arachya.

Vatican was built as a New Heliopolis, Heliopolis is the City of the Sun, as is Vatican. vatican as a obelisk that dedicated to the Sun god Ra, plus vatican was a place of Mithras worship in 600bc, you see the egyptian never died they just moved to vatican
Actually, the Egyptians still live. My friend is Egyptian. :)
The religion you talk of, died out. While I do not deny that Christianity has paganized the holidays of other religions, this is a far cry from what you have posted. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately my friend, you do too much joining together and offer no sources, and I doubt you are an expert in any of these fields.

Archaeologists, historians, people with PhD's in comparative religion (of the non-religious variety) and more would have connected these things together far before you would have, providing of course they were true. Do you have any proof that it was a place of Mithras worship in 600BC? Can I see your sources for things you have posted?

Do you expect anyone to take anything you have said seriously, considering you have made some really big mistakes in the past (remember the Sumerians inventing Hinduism incident?)
 

Helio

Member
Hi, its very intresting what its writen in here because i have a personnal and incredible story to tell. My name is Helio, i was born in 1978,february the 26th, in a place called Lisbon/Portugal, i must first say that i am not religious or follow any religious doctrine, but in 2007 when i was 30 years of age, i had the most incredible supernatural experience ever to occur in my life time. I was living in London/England, when one day i beggan sensing something around me trying to comunicate, and to make a very long and complex story short, a few weeks after this first ''sensing'' beggan happening...i was in my room resting and at this time the ''signal'' was allready much stronger, and so there i was listening to a song that marked my childwood very much called ''meet me half way'' by Kenny Loggins, wich i had listened to a million times before but never really understanding why such a strong connection between me and the particular record, when suddenly i lift the needle of the vinyl disc and it hits my consciousness, my thoughts started to roll back at an extreme fast pace and i remember seeing all my life backwards like in a flashback, the people i met and spoken to, the places i had been, litteraly everything in a minute, not only that but also the connection to certain events in my life and this suposed ''spirit'' wich i felt was there with me all along. Emediately after this tottaly unexpected ''flash back'', i asked to the nothingness in the room ''Who are you??''...i could not believe that an answer would come right after i had purposed such a question, but yet the spirit replyed...''I am your father'', my knees gave up on me and now i am speaking telephaticaly to something i cannot see at all.
I will never forget the feeling that immersed in the room and all around my body and spirit, allmost as if i had died and gone to a spiritual realm or a magical place, i describe it has beeing lifted in the air with an emmense feeling of being loved and huged by something truly great and powerfull yet at the same time very gentil and caring. I remember being in a state of awe, yet down to earth, consuming every second of this experience wich i never though imaginable or possible. The conversation continued
and now the spirit reaveals to me that it has been watching me for some time and that i had passa test, in an instant i asked myself...''what test??''...no reply, but it continued...''You are my son, i love you'' '' I gave you what you most needed in your life'' at this moment in the conversation it made me understand that it was refering to my dear and wonderfull wife who allways been there for me and supportive in all my struggles. ''You are not from this earth, and soon WE are comming for you''....now it starts becomming more and more serious, because i thought i was speaking to one spirit or one thing, but i understood ''We'' as in more than one, so if the ''Your not from this earth'' part wasnt strange enough, now it also wants to tell me that im going to save the earth, when it beggan telling me this, i didnt know what to think of it and i remember nodding my head, but not in disbelief more as in ''Why me?? i am nobody..'' and amazingly just like if the spirit could read my every thought, it answers back...''Thats why it has to be you'', my head is spinning, i do not know what to believe or why this is happening to me, in a time of my life when i have absolutely nothing to give to the world, i do not have a steady job or income, me and my wife both struggle to pay our bills, so once again i ask myself ''what is this??''
....by the time the message cames to an end,
i feel mixed emotions, i feel that my mind aged
years and years, it thinks very fast, it makes plans to help and go places, i feel tired and exausted
yet the need to do something about it, i see things i cannot explayin with words, i dont know what to tell my wife,
afraid she wont understand, i felt i had been chosen to do something great, and in my mind i was going to, no matter what...
now.., what happens next to this is just an incredible story that feels comming out of a sci-fi movie, and if it had finished like that
i would have though i had imagined the hole thing perhaps...but when 1 and a half years latter, my house beggan being visited by spirits and the roof of my house filled with
flying amber lights flashing on and off, as if someone is trying to say, hello...''we are here''...and latter when this perfectly shaped aluminium disc starts hovering close by me, i began thinking...this is very serious, yet no one believes in me, not even my own family who thinks im crazy. For the longest of times this story puzzled me, if what spoke to me at that time was ''God'' and all references i have of a God are ''Jesus Christ'' yet if what spoke to me was ''Jesus'' it wouldnt have sayd ''I am your father'' now wouldt it??....if what spoke to me was indeed a ''God''... since it told me...''I am your father..'' doesnt it make me the son of a God or a spirit? i heard that there is a passage in the bilble that says...''...and God is a spirit''..could all this be coincidence?? for a long time i have been searching for a connection between the bible and me or my name, and i found none...yet one day i find someone speaking of the true original name of the bible...,''Helios Biblios'', not only that but also this video who speaks of Helio, here is the link:
(pls search youtube for a video called ''666 nibiru palace busted part 13''

if you would like to get back to me or send me an email, pls do so at [email protected]
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Archaeologists, historians, people with PhD's in comparative religion (of the non-religious variety) and more would have connected these things together far before you would have, providing of course they were true.

Reason is of no use here.

Just post pictures of cute puppies and kittens.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
I been studying more originity of religions

Now that's a loose definition of a word if ever there was one...

Please tell us - what is it that you are "studying"? I suspect that you've typed (or pasted) more words than you've actually read (if any).
 

logician

Well-Known Member
Most historians and Biblical scholars, whether Christian or not, believe Jesus was a real person.


The fact that you say "believe" makes this a matter of faith and not evidence.

There is not one historian that lived during the supposed time of Jesus that ever heard of such a man.

So much for historical "evidence".
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
There is not one historian that lived during the supposed time of Jesus that ever heard of such a man.

Jesus was originally a nobody, after all. It's Paul who made his message very famous. Otherwise Jesus would have been just another nobody who died by Roman hand because of a suspected uprising.
 
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