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sovietchild

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Hello Christians! I have few questions for you. Can Jesus condone you? If not, then how can he help you? God helps you and condones you. If God did had a son then how come he didn't had a daughter?
 

atpollard

Active Member
Hello Christians! I have few questions for you.
Hello Muslim, ask away.

Can Jesus condone you?
Jesus is the gatekeeper to God.
No man may come to the Father, except through the Son.
Jesus came to the world to forgive men of sin.


John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.


God helps you and condones you. If God did had a son then how come he didn't had a daughter?
John 10:25-30
25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[fn]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

John 14:6-14
answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[fn] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.


Jesus is the exact image of God.
So just for the record, are you really asking me why God is not female?
 

Brickjectivity

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Can Jesus condone you? If not, then how can he help you?
He's an example.

If God did had a son then how come he didn't had a daughter?
Both women and men can receive power to become children of God, and Jesus is only the first martyr. Women die as martyrs, too and are equals. There is no limitation on who can become a child of God.
 

Sonofason

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Hello Christians! I have few questions for you. Can Jesus condone you? If not, then how can he help you? God helps you and condones you. If God did had a son then how come he didn't had a daughter?
Jesus can forgive your sins in the same capacity that God can forgive your sins. In fact if Jesus does not forgive your sins, it would be impossible for God to forgive your sins, because it is impossible for God to contradict Himself.
 

Talmai

Member
Hello Christians! I have few questions for you. Can Jesus condone you? If not, then how can he help you? God helps you and condones you. If God did had a son then how come he didn't had a daughter?

The main purpose for Jesus Christ being born in this world was that we would have the forgiveness of sins. With the forgiveness of sins there is also salvation and everlasting life with God. Jesus' sacrifice of atonement cleanses us from sin, therefore God justifies us, that is, He declares we are forgiven and righteous. If Jesus did not lay down His life for us and was not resurrected, then He would be of no real help for us; we might as well follow Laozi or Buddha or Socrates and strive for what we might think is the highest good. But Jesus took away our sins with His sacrifice of atonement and therefore Paradise is not a reward or wage but an inheritance for everyone who has been united to Him in Baptism.

God has only one offspring according to the divine nature. That one offspring according to the divine nature is the Son, and we know Him as Jesus. We who become spiritually united to the Son in Baptism become God's adopted sons and daughters. God has many sons and daughters according to adoption, and we Christians are them.

If you have anymore questions of a theological or salvific nature, feel free to post them in this thread. I am capable of answering easy and difficult questions pertaining to these things because I have been studying the Holy Scriptures and the writings of the Church Fathers for five years now.
 
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URAVIP2ME

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Hello Christians! I have few questions for you. Can Jesus condone you? If not, then how can he help you? God helps you and condones you. If God did had a son then how come he didn't had a daughter?

To me, according to 1 John 1:7 Jesus does pardon ( condone ) us, but Not ALL will accept Jesus, and that is why Matthew 20:28 says Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say All.
Our un-intentional sins can be overlooked, but the willful practice of sin can make a person as being wicked.
A person can reach a point of No more forgiveness - Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6; 10:26; Psalms 92:7

ALL angelic creation are referred to in the masculine gender as sons. No female angels.
However, as far a humans go, many are female. There are female saints ( holy ones ) who will be resurrected to heavenly life as God resurrected Jesus to the heavens.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
He's an example.
Both women and men can receive power to become children of God, and Jesus is only the first martyr. Women die as martyrs, too and are equals. There is no limitation on who can become a child of God.

I think your ^ above ^ post is well expressed because both men and women can become as Christ's spiritual ' brothers ' - Matthew 25:40. ( We think of 'brotherhood' as being inclusive including both male and female )
 

Sonofason

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To me, according to 1 John 1:7 Jesus does pardon ( condone ) us, but Not ALL will accept Jesus, and that is why Matthew 20:28 says Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say All.
Our un-intentional sins can be overlooked, but the willful practice of sin can make a person as being wicked.
A person can reach a point of No more forgiveness - Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6; 10:26; Psalms 92:7

ALL angelic creation are referred to in the masculine gender as sons. No female angels.
However, as far a humans go, many are female. There are female saints ( holy ones ) who will be resurrected to heavenly life as God resurrected Jesus to the heavens.
This reminds me of a quote I read recently by William Law in his book "A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life"...an excelent book by the way IMO.

He said, "ALTHOUGH the goodness of God, and His rich mercies in Christ Jesus, are a sufficient assurance to us, that He will be merciful to our unavoidable weakness and infirmities, that is, to such failings as are the effects of ignorance or surprise; yet we have no reason to expect the same mercy towards those sins which we have lived in, through a want of intention to avoid them."

I would suggest here, based on what William Law is saying that unintentional sins might not be overlooked. Clearly, a want of intention is a lack of intention. But is a lack of intention the same as unintentional? In a sense, I believe he is saying that if we lack the intention to avoid those sins that permeate our lives on a daily basis, when we in fact know that they are indeed sins we are intentionally committing sin because we are in want of intent to avoid them.

I imagine if we play around with definitions a bit, we can make unintentional sin something that is forgivable. I sure hope so.
 

Sonofason

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Consider a commercial airline pilot who likes to drink alcohol while on the job on a daily basis. While he is certainly endangering the lives of everyone on board the airline when he drinks while working, he does not intend to injure anyone at all. Yet, his persistent endangerment of innocent people is surely a sin, apart from being the glutton that he is. He must surely know that what he is doing is wrong, and he does it every day. If he should one day crash his plane and kill everyone on board including himself, shall not God consider his daily sins unforgivable? Shall not his daily lack of intent to do what is right in the eyes of God be considered unforgivable sin? Shall God condone his sin?
 

lostwanderingsoul

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God can and will forgive all sin if the person repents and makes an effort to stop sinning. The unforgiven sin is the one that the sinner does not try to stop doing and ask God to forgive.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
This reminds me of a quote I read recently by William Law in his book "A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life"...an excelent book by the way IMO.

I would suggest here, based on what William Law is saying that unintentional sins might not be overlooked.

Clearly, a want of intention is a lack of intention. But is a lack of intention the same as unintentional? In a sense, I believe he is saying that if we lack the intention to avoid those sins that permeate our lives on a daily basis, when we in fact know that they are indeed sins we are intentionally committing sin because we are in want of intent to avoid them.
I imagine if we play around with definitions a bit, we can make unintentional sin something that is forgivable. I sure hope so.

How could Unintentional sins ( adamic sins from father Adam ) Not be overlooked according to 1 John 1: 7
To me, because Matthew 20:28 says MANY people, and does Not say all people, is showing there is an unforgivable sin as mentioned at Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6, so, to me, Jesus' ransom covers the majority.
Any thoughts about Hebrew 10:26
 

Sonofason

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How could Unintentional sins ( adamic sins from father Adam ) Not be overlooked according to 1 John 1: 7
To me, because Matthew 20:28 says MANY people, and does Not say all people, is showing there is an unforgivable sin as mentioned at Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6, so, to me, Jesus' ransom covers the majority.
Any thoughts about Hebrew 10:26
Of course. It leaves me with a fearful looking to the judgment and fiery indignation that I deserve. However, I still experience God's Holy Spirit, so I do not believe that I am in that boat. I believe there is still hope for me.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Of course. It leaves me with a fearful looking to the judgment and fiery indignation that I deserve. However, I still experience God's Holy Spirit, so I do not believe that I am in that boat. I believe there is still hope for me.

To me, the fact you are fearful of adverse judgement seems to indicate you have Not committed the unforgivable sin of Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6

We should all continue to pray for God's holy spirit as Jesus says at Luke 11:13 B

Until the soon coming ' time of separation ' of Matthew 25:31-33 there is *bright hope*.
We can choose to repent so as Not to perish and be destroyed forever - 2 Peter 3:9; Psalms 92:7
Those who repent will have a ' favorable judgement ' in that they can remain alive on Earth, and continue living on Earth right into the start of calendar Day One of Jesus' millennium-long righteous judgement day over Earth when the humble meek people will inherit the Earth as Jesus promised at Matthew 5:5
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Consider a commercial airline pilot who likes to drink alcohol while on the job on a daily basis. While he is certainly endangering the lives of everyone on board the airline when he drinks while working, he does not intend to injure anyone at all. Yet, his persistent endangerment of innocent people is surely a sin, apart from being the glutton that he is. He must surely know that what he is doing is wrong, and he does it every day. If he should one day crash his plane and kill everyone on board including himself, shall not God consider his daily sins unforgivable? Shall not his daily lack of intent to do what is right in the eyes of God be considered unforgivable sin? Shall God condone his sin?

This post reminded me of an article I read the other day.

1 in 8 airline pilots may be clinically depressed
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
To me, the fact you are fearful of adverse judgement seems to indicate you have Not committed the unforgivable sin of Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6

We should all continue to pray for God's holy spirit as Jesus says at Luke 11:13 B

Until the soon coming ' time of separation ' of Matthew 25:31-33 there is *bright hope*.
We can choose to repent so as Not to perish and be destroyed forever - 2 Peter 3:9; Psalms 92:7
Those who repent will have a ' favorable judgement ' in that they can remain alive on Earth, and continue living on Earth right into the start of calendar Day One of Jesus' millennium-long righteous judgement day over Earth when the humble meek people will inherit the Earth as Jesus promised at Matthew 5:5
These are excellent and powerful verses.

"The measure of our love to God, seems in justice to be the measure of our love of every virtue. We are to love and practise it with all our heart, with all our soul, with all our mind, and with all our strength. And when we cease to live with this regard to virtue, we live below our nature, and, instead of being able to plead our infirmities, we stand chargeable with negligence." (William Law - A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life)
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
These are excellent and powerful verses.

"The measure of our love to God, seems in justice to be the measure of our love of every virtue. We are to love and practise it with all our heart, with all our soul, with all our mind, and with all our strength. And when we cease to live with this regard to virtue, we live below our nature, and, instead of being able to plead our infirmities, we stand chargeable with negligence." (William Law - A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life)

Thanks for posting the ^ above ^.
Yes, to me, love of praiseworthy things such as morals and virtue as mentioned at Philippians 4:8
Living below our nature,, to me, would be living by the things listed at Galatians 5:19-21
Whereas living up to our ' spiritual ' nature would mean cultivating the fruitage of God's spirit -> Galatians 22-23
Any thoughts about Ephesians 1:12
 
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