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Tamino

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In my case, I would elaborate this concept as the eight primordial gods and goddesses.
4 pairs, each pair representing one aspect in male and female form: primordial Ocean, Hiddenness, Darkness, Infinity
They are ways to imagine the world before creation... or rather... illustrate how difficult it is to imagine such things in a human mind.

I see the 8 primordial deities as a reminder that we're tiny. Even our entire planet, even our sun is tiny. We're all just little bits of star stuff. Around us, before us, after us... there's still all that infinity stretching out. I find it very calming, to remember that we're not that important.
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
In my case, I would elaborate this concept as the eight primordial gods and goddesses.
4 pairs, each pair representing one aspect in male and female form: primordial Ocean, Hiddenness, Darkness, Infinity
They are ways to imagine the world before creation... or rather... illustrate how difficult it is to imagine such things in a human mind.

I see the 8 primordial deities as a reminder that we're tiny. Even our entire planet, even our sun is tiny. We're all just little bits of star stuff. Around us, before us, after us... there's still all that infinity stretching out. I find it very calming, to remember that we're not that important.
See I find it rather curious that without all the semantics all religions are structured this way. I actually define religion as old guys getting stoned and talking about nothing.


I'm journaling my discoveries of a Voiduous nature. IS the Void male or female or indistinct or hermaphrodite?

Also, do I already know the answer as you seem to be describing Khemet?
 

Tamino

Active Member
I actually define religion as old guys getting stoned and talking about nothing.
That's probably the accurate origin of quite some mythology
I'm journaling my discoveries of a Voiduous nature. IS the Void male or female or indistinct or hermaphrodite?

Also, do I already know the answer as you seem to be describing Khemet?
Yes, I am Kemetic, as in: using the concepts and images of ancient Egypt.

And I think the primordials don't really have sex or gender - they incorporate the potential for all forms, but are formless themselves... and in a language in which all words have a male or female grammatical gender, making them pairs of one each is a way to express this
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Depends a bit on what you are intending to point to with those words.

With what they point to in my tradition, I worship neither - but they are more or less subsumed by Water, which I do worship. And Water in its void aspects is... so... all of the Four are dangerous in their pure forms to some degree or another. But Water in particular has given me the most regularly harrowing and terrifying experiences. I dunno if that's because I have a predominantly Fire natal chart or what, but the complete and utter destruction of literally everything is... a special kind of nasty. If you are dumb enough to approach it, don't. :joycat:
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
Depends a bit on what you are intending to point to with those words.

With what they point to in my tradition, I worship neither - but they are more or less subsumed by Water, which I do worship. And Water in its void aspects is... so... all of the Four are dangerous in their pure forms to some degree or another. But Water in particular has given me the most regularly harrowing and terrifying experiences. I dunno if that's because I have a predominantly Fire natal chart or what, but the complete and utter destruction of literally everything is... a special kind of nasty. If you are dumb enough to approach it, don't. :joycat:
See I don't take THOSE five elements in any actual way but I do take these five elements. I know that's very hmmm and strong but each of these is made by from nothing, nothing, the Void, being the only thing left to create this space-time and matter/energy. That's why I take it as true. Took me about a decade and a half to fi9nally get it to where it is now.

I also don't see the void as terrifying because I've learned to take care of my physical and mental health properly, with science. There's no more existential dread of "I'm wasting my life" anymore with wellbeing, critical thinking and purpose the three cores I know to the good life.
 

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ChieftheCef

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See I don't take THOSE five elements in any actual way but I do take these five elements. I know that's very hmmm and strong but each of these is made by from nothing, nothing, the Void, being the only thing left to create this space-time and matter/energy. That's why I take it as true. Took me about a decade and a half to fi9nally get it to where it is now.

I also don't see the void as terrifying because I've learned to take care of my physical and mental health properly, with science. There's no more existential dread of "I'm wasting my life" anymore with wellbeing, critical thinking and purpose the three cores I know to the good life.
That is not to say the air, fire, water, earth and aether pentagram isn't useable or even not beautiful. I just wouldn't believe in the hogwash is all. Get my polytheism with the actual **** in the actual world so I'm not believing fairies when they ask me to... sorry... larp. Not that this larping doesn't have benefits I'm just not one for fanfiction
 

ChieftheCef

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I do larp myself :) I find it insults only those who take it too seriously

Here is a current larping tool. I might get it laminated. It's the key to a good life, no matter your circumstances
 

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Bear Wild

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I was just wondering how the Abyss, the Void what have you fits into your worship?
The void is the potential of the world. This is best depicted in the Norse creation myth where Ginnungagap which is the abyss is the potential between the two opposites of fire as Muspelheim and ice as Niflheim. It is in this void where the two opposites meet that our world was created. This can be represented by the number three with the two opposites and the third as the combination. In a way this is not different than the yin and yang but just includes the third as the result of these two opposing forces. We never exist in the extremes; we are always in the potential between. The void is not nothing though it is something that represents the potential of the opposites.
 
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