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Hezbollah Chief Nasrallah Killed in IDF Strike

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I've already answered that. There cannot be peace, whilst Israel (and its allies) continually terrorize
their neighbours.
Also .. do we expect Israel to change it's ways? I don't.

So like Hamas you have no intention of peace,no intention,I’m not shocked,it’s been that way for too long.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
So like Hamas you have no intention of peace..
Now you're trolling (and not for the first time).

I care about Palestinian lives .. I care about Israeli lives .. I care about Lebanese lives
.. I care about English lives .. I care about Irish lives .. I care about American lives..
I care about Iranian lives .. I care about Ukrainian lives .. I care about Russian lives.
I care about Japanese lives .. I care about Chinese lives.

I think you get my drift.
Your idea of bringing peace to the world is like that of the Israelis .. through genocide.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Now you're trolling (and not for the first time).

I care about Palestinian lives .. I care about Israeli lives .. I care about Lebanese lives
.. I care about English lives .. I care about Irish lives .. I care about American lives..
I care about Iranian lives .. I care about Ukrainian lives .. I care about Russian lives.
I care about Japanese lives .. I care about Chinese lives.

I think you get my drift.
Your idea of bringing peace to the world is like that of the Israelis .. through genocide.

“Genocide” is overused by Hamas supporters,the only people who believe it are Hamas supporters,I’m not trolling you I’m just asking questions that you have no answer for.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
“Genocide” is overused by Hamas supporters,the only people who believe it are Hamas supporters..
False .. millions of people worldwide believe that there is a genocide going on
against the Palestinians. Protests continue worldwide.

South Africa took the case to the International Criminal court, which has said it is "plausible",
and has issued many ruling .. the latest being..

On 24 May, by 13 votes to two, the court ordered an immediate halt to Israel's offensive in Rafah. While there was a consensus among legal experts that the order requires Israel to halt its offensive immediately, Israel has rejected this position and continued with its offensive operations.
South_Africa's_genocide_case_against_Israel

In other words, Israel along with the US, consider International law does not apply to them. :expressionless:
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
I'm waiting.
In other words, you insist.

In an open letter published on 15 October on Opinio Juris and the website of the Third World Approaches to International Law Review, scholars wrote that Israeli officials' statements since 7 October indicate intent to commit genocide. The NGO Law for Palestine compiled more than 500 statements by Israeli political and military officials that reportedly call for genocide. On 11 June 2024, the official Israeli X (formerly Twitter) account tweeted that "Gazan civilians participated in the horrific events of October 7", later citing a statement in a clip stating that "there are no innocent civilians there."

On 7 October, Netanyahu said that Israel would "exact a huge price from the enemy" and turn Hamas hideouts "into rubble"
...
Israeli historian Raz Segal and legal scholar Luigi Daniele also pointed to increasing genocidal rhetoric before October 2023, highlighting a May 2023 Times of Israel article that said that the only way to achieve peace is to "obliterate" Palestine and that Palestine's existence is "an affront to society, morality, humanity". The article further calls for reeducation of Palestinians and declares that they can enjoy rights only if they no longer exist as a nation. Segal and Daniele draw parallels between that article's rhetoric and scholarship that points to Russian media outlets' equivalent rhetoric in the Russian invasion of Ukraine as genocidal. Segal and Daniele also point to
previous comments by National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, former Knesset member Ayelet Shaked, and Smotrich, who in February 2023 called for the destruction of Palestinian villages in the West Bank.
...

On 9 October 2023, Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant said,

We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything will be closed. We are fighting against human animals and will act accordingly.
Gaza_genocide - Wikipedia
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Please cite your source.
Already done .. read that page from wikipedia .. did I quote the exact words used?
Maybe not .. but it is clear the meaning of what they said .. and that Lebanese resistance
fighters were not wrong. They knew what the Israeli regime intended to do.
i.e. obliterate Gaza

From day 1, Nasrallah said that the rockets would stop if the Israeli regime sought a political
solution to the crisis.
..but here we are, one year on, with the international community being ignored by the US
and Israel, in order "to improve Israel's security", by the heavy bombing of non-Israelis
into submission.

It's absurd. Are we now going to see heavy bombing of Iran into submission? :rolleyes:
..and when there is an uproar in Saudi which results in civil war, and then bomb them into
submission?
 
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Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Already done .. read that page from wikipedia .. did I quote the exact words used?

That should be easy to determine. You wrote ...

On Oct 7, the Israeli regime said that they would "flatten Gaza to the ground".

You even went so far as to place the assertion withing quotes and attribute it to "the Israeli regime." Simply go back, find the quote, and hyperlink it. At the very least it will (a) speak to your honest, (b) allow us to evaluate the credibility of your news source, (c) and judge the fidelity of your communication.

But maybe in your case it's not at all easy. If so, I'll be glad to provide a possible source.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
So Israel has the right to defend itself?.
No.
Because it's occupation country.

Oh really;
The Serbs are Eastern-Orthodox Christians, the Croats are Roman Catholics, and the Bosnian Muslims are South Slavs Islamicized through the Ottoman Turkish conquest. These differences have been reinforced by nationalist movement's uses of religion and by religious leaders' services to nationalist movements
It's their land, they just choose to accepr Islam.
They was under Ottoman empire as most muslims countries
I think I hit the bullseye.
No, you didn't hit anything.
Because your views is biased to Israelis which consider them chosen people, and they do you a favor by bring you Jesus again.
The onus is on the Hamas fighter who hides behind the people they are supposed to protect,isn’t that the obligation of any government?.
If USA dealed with
Americans hostages in Iran, probably, Iran is under USA occupation and millions of Irani people killed.
That’s almost funny, “saved them from bombing” only to blow the brains out of 5 defenceless hostages,cheers Hamas you are so righteous.

So in your opinion what would make this conflict end,your the representative of the Palestinian people,your presentation for a lasting peace,the stage is yours.
Thanks God hostages was honest and courage to tell the truth .

How could you make peace with occupation and racism regime,use collection punishment?
 

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muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
You even went so far as to place the assertion withing quotes and attribute it to "the Israeli regime."
You are just being pedantic..

Do you support Israel's "war" or not?

I repeat my previous quote.. Hezbollah Chief Nasrallah Killed in IDF Strike

By late April 2024 it was estimated that Israel had dropped over 70,000 tons of bombs over Gaza, surpassing the bombing of Dresden, Hamburg, and London combined during World War II.
- Wikipedia -

I can understand 2 world powers at war behaving like that .. but Gaza is occupied by Israel
and is NOT a major power.
It's ridiculous .. how can the world recover from this, with Israel remaining a state with
the moral high ground?
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
No.
Because it's occupation country.
I don't agree .. Israel does have the right to self-defence.
..but clearly, that is not their aim .. they think that they can dominate the region through
military might against those who are poor and oppressed.
They are engaged in genocide, of that there is no doubt.

Thought experiment .. Ask the population in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi etc. whether
they think that Israel is committing genocide?
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't agree .. Israel does have the right to self-defence.
..but clearly, that is not their aim .. they think that they can dominate the region through
military might against those who are poor and oppressed.

Israel reacts, thus is not the aggressor.

They are engaged in genocide, of that there is no doubt.

Complete nonsense, and what does the Arab chant "From the river to the sea" imply? It's not Israeli that's been repeatedly chanting this.

Thought experiment .. Ask the population in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi etc. whether
they think that Israel is committing genocide?

And when 10-7 happened, there were demonstrations in many of these countries in support of the brutal genocide of civilians in Israel. And that the supposed moral high ground? What a sad commentary that is. :rolleyes:
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Israel reacts, thus is not the aggressor.
Not truth.
It's main aggressor.
How the hell victims become aggressor?

Israel acted by sieged Gaza for 14 years, and re occupation West Bank, and hold thousands of Palestinians as hostages.

When Palestinians react , by resistance kidnapped hostages to exchange,so israel re-react by collective punishment.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Israel reacts, thus is not the aggressor.
That's their cover story.. it's all a conspiracy.

..even the former Prime Minister of the UK (as foreign secretary) wanted to put sanctions on members
of the Israeli govt. .. but was unable to for political reasons.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
You are just being pedantic..

This should be an easy question. I am asking you to cite the source of your quote, and you are doing a pathetic and cowardly job running from the question.

You wrote:

On Oct 7, the Israeli regime said that they would "flatten Gaza to the ground".

Cite the source, dodge the question, or apologie for the distortion.
 
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