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Hezbollah Chief Nasrallah Killed in IDF Strike

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
I realize I'll probably be "closed down" now, because I'm now considered part of a
"terrorist organization".

I'm thinking of returning to the Irish Republic, and claiming asylum. :expressionless:
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
You are painting a picture as if it is Iran that bombs people's embassies .. Iran that assassinates
Israeli leaders etc. etc.

Every picture tells a story doesn’t it,proxy sponsor for donkeys.

I see that it is Israel and the G7 that are committing excess in killing, and have double
standards. The lives of Westerners are seen as more valuable than others.
When a Westerner dies, their name is announced in in Western media, but when others
die we just get a number, which is often said to be exaggerated etc.

Are they?.

Iran does not sponsor terrorism .. they help oppressed Muslim peoples.
I would imagine that the majority of the Muslim population in the world can identify with Hamas.

lol,almost funny in a macabre way,the PLO took terrorism to Iran and showed them how to use it,yasser Arafat,the PLO and helped organise the 1979 revolution,the PLO were also responsible for the 1972 Munich masacre,

Since a few weeks ago, I have become to realize that I myself (a British, white Muslim) are part of Hamas.
In other words, it's gone much too far .. it is becoming an 'us' v. 'them' conflict, and not
one against terror. The reason being, that the Israeli regime is extreme, and have decided that
"winner takes all" .. they are aggressors.
Identity crises,maybe some counselling?.

The Israeli regime are "jokers" .. they say there can be no deal until they get the hostages back,
and that they will make Lebanon into "a Gaza" if non-Muslims don't stop their Muslim countrymen.

Your lost

We (Hamas), have no reason to trust the Israeli regime .. we know they are liars.
If some of the Gazans were not "Hamas" before Oct 7, I'm sure they are now.
In fact, that is what Nethanyahu mean, when he says "finish Hamas" .. he means kill all the Gazans.
..an then they will find a way to kill all those in the West Bank.

What part of Palestine do you live in exactly?
I never identified with Al-Qaeda or any other terrorist group in the past, be they sunni, shia or
any other.
Now we have missiles and bombs flying around .. it's nothing to do with terrorism .. that is
an excuse to commit genocide.
I can NEVER be on the side of those who commit genocide, regardless of their creed.

But you side with Hamas.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
But you side with Hamas.
I side with truth and decency..

As far as the Israeli regime is concerned, it doesn't matter whether you are
a combatant (in the military) or part of central or local govt. , you are all
deserving death, and innocent victims are of no concern.

This includes those in health care, as Doctors, regardless of nationality are all "Hamas",
because they help "Hamas".

I'm not stupid .. I know what war means .. it's a polarization .. and the enemy are Palestinian
Muslims .. the accusation of barbaric terrorism is just an excuse.
They purposely killed their own people on Oct 7 (IDF policy to stop hostage taking), and made out that the Hamas attack was barbaric.
It is quite clear to me who are the ones that are barbaric.

It is clear to me the ones who seek to hide their atrocities from the world.

Yes, I know that hostage taking is not good .. I also know that indefinite military occupation
and oppression is not good. Go figure!
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
If you’re returning why would you need asylum lol.
..just like Palestinian Muslims, I am trapped where I am .. no nation, including Irish Republic,
would have me.
As I say, it has become an 'us v. them' conflict .. Muslims have become the enemy.

The G7, the victors of WWII, want to keep their stranglehold around the globe.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
You are painting a picture as if it is Iran that bombs people's embassies .. Iran that assassinates
Israeli leaders etc. etc.

Since when is self-defense from a series of aggressive proxies hell-bent on destroying a county that didn't start this somehow immoral? Don't you understand even the most basic concept of "self-defense"? Who attacked who on 10-7?
 

MayPeaceBeUpOnYou

Active Member
Since when is self-defense from a series of aggressive proxies hell-bent on destroying a county that didn't start this somehow immoral? Don't you understand even the most basic concept of "self-defense"? Who attacked who on 10-7?
Nothing justifies 7 October but 7 October justifies everything correct?
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I side with truth and decency..

Sounds promising.

As far as the Israeli regime is concerned, it doesn't matter whether you are
a combatant (in the military) or part of central or local govt. , you are all
deserving death, and innocent victims are of no concern.

Isn’t that how war works like when we invaded Iraq,over 150000 civilian casualties.

This includes those in health care, as Doctors, regardless of nationality are all "Hamas",
because they help "Hamas".

It’s unfortunate but if you don’t want these casualties don’t go to war,simple.

I'm not stupid .. I know what war means .. it's a polarization .. and the enemy are Palestinian
Muslims .. the accusation of barbaric terrorism is just an excuse.
They purposely killed their own people on Oct 7 (IDF policy to stop hostage taking), and made out that the Hamas attack was barbaric.
It is quite clear to me who are the ones that are barbaric.

You started out with “I side with truth and decency” and just blew it to pieces.

It is clear to me the ones who seek to hide their atrocities from the world.

Yes, I know that hostage taking is not good .. I also know that indefinite military occupation
and oppression is not good. Go figure!

Kidnapping and the atrocities of October 7th was nothing less than disgusting behaviour.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
..just like Palestinian Muslims, I am trapped where I am .. no nation, including Irish Republic,
would have me.
As I say, it has become an 'us v. them' conflict .. Muslims have become the enemy.

Well some have sought to have that status,we have Muslims here who openly praise the Hamas Hezbollah terrorists,call for jihad against Israel,sad really,people who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk sake in the knowledge they are thousands of miles from the front line.

The G7, the victors of WWII, want to keep their stranglehold around the globe.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Well some have sought to have that status,we have Muslims here who openly praise the Hamas Hezbollah terrorists,call for jihad against Israel..
Israel should be more responsible .. I cannot see how flattening the Gaza strip in response to a rebellion,
is responsible behavior. They have totally abused their position, and escalate war at every opportunity.

That is their "strategy" .. to behave like colonial masters, with the support of the US.
How does that bring peace to the region? It does not.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Israel should be more responsible .. I cannot see how flattening the Gaza strip in response to a rebellion,
is responsible behavior. They have totally abused their position, and escalate war at every opportunity.

It’s a response to murder,don’t murder kidnap and rape and you won’t get this response,easy,there have been opportunities for peace,i think 5 times,even the PLO were open to the two state solution but how telling it was that Hamas we’re too but never to accept or recognise the state of Israel.
That is their "strategy" .. to behave like colonial masters, with the support of the US.
How does that bring peace to the region? It does not.

Getting rid of Hamas Hezbollah and Islamic jihad is a good start.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
It’s a response to murder,don’t murder kidnap and rape and you won’t get this response,easy..
Don't be ridiculous .. did the UK Armed forces go in and destroy all Catholic dwellings in Northern Ireland
"in response"?

Getting rid of Hamas Hezbollah and Islamic jihad is a good start..
Why not annihilate all Muslims in the world? That would solve the problem. :rolleyes:
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Nothing justifies 7 October but 7 October justifies everything correct?
All countries have the right of self-defense, and Hamas still was sending rockets into Israel while complaining Israel's hitting weapon's depos hidden in tunnels under hospitals, schools, etc.

If Hamas surrenders, all this stops-- period.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
If Hamas surrenders, all this stops-- period.
You mean if the remaining hostages are released?
I don't see how that makes any difference whatsoever.

Nethanyahu doesn't care about the hostages .. he is more interested in his plans for the region. :expressionless:
 

MayPeaceBeUpOnYou

Active Member
All countries have the right of self-defense, and Hamas still was sending rockets into Israel while complaining Israel's hitting weapon's depos hidden in tunnels under hospitals, schools, etc.

If Hamas surrenders, all this stops-- period.
Do you agree with the statement?

Nothing justifies 7 October
But 7 October justifies everything Israel does
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Don't be ridiculous .. did the UK Armed forces go in and destroy all Catholic dwellings in Northern Ireland
"in response"?

No and as far as I’m aware they didn’t “destroy all Catholic dwellings” either.


Why not annihilate all Muslims in the world? That would solve the problem. :rolleyes:

Sounds like you have the same mindset as Hamas regarding Israel.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
All countries have the right of self-defense, and Hamas still was sending rockets into Israel while complaining Israel's hitting weapon's depos hidden in tunnels under hospitals, schools, etc.

If Hamas surrenders, all this stops-- period.

That is absolutely true; it is also absolutely zero justification for the depraved carnage being wrought on the people of Gaza.

My mindset is one of wanting Israel to live in peace with its neighbours, and making
reparations with the Palestinians.
It has shown that it is not willing to do that, so..

And this is particularly and dangerously true of the Netanyahu regime.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That is absolutely true; it is also absolutely zero justification for the depraved carnage being wrought on the people of Gaza.
As long as Hamas had kept sending rockets into Israel, the latter had the right to respond. But what also made this very difficult and deadly is Hamas' hiding its weapons in tunnels under hospitals, schools, etc.
 
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