Hillary Asks China To Hack IRS !!!!

[Subduction Zone]

These posts wonderfully illustrate how partisan politics determines
how people judge whether a politicians is serious or facetious when
stating something which is superficially wrongful.

It appears that you missed this quote of HIllary:

She added: "So, hey, let's have a great power contest, and let's get the Chinese in on the side of somebody else. Just saying that shows how absurd the situation we find ourselves in."

She gave a hypothetical. The quote at the end seems to indicate that she was saying that it would be a stupid thing to do. Trump claims to have joked after the fact but one thing that we do know that Trump lacks is a sense of humor.

 

[Revoltingest]

It appears that you missed this quote of HIllary:

No, I read the whole thing.
This is just as I heard enuf of Trump to judge.
I pulled the quote without context to illustrate my
point, ie, that anti-Trumpettes care about context
only when it serves Hillary apologetics.
But for The Donald, it's all "How can I infer the
worst possible intent from what he said?"

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, I read the whole thing.
This is just as I heard enuf of Trump to judge.
I pulled the quote without context to illustrate my
point, ie, that anti-Trumpettes care about context
only when it serves Hillary apologetics.
But for The Donald, it's all "How can I infer the
worst possible intent from what he said?"

Can you provide context to show that Trump was joking?

 

[Revoltingest]

Can you provide context to show that Trump was joking?

Pay particular attention to his claim that the press
will reward Russia for finding the lost emails.
Obviously, the press would instead be livid.
Applying multivariable tensor calculus, we
may determine humorous intent.

 

[Wu Wei]

Please explain the difference between his treason & hers.

Well...she's Hillary Clinton and he is Donald Trump......Dems are rabidly after Trump and the Reps are currently not rabidly after anyone...but give them time..... there ya go....you're welcome

 

[suncowiam]

I assume (rightly or wrongly) you meant the Russians hacked her emails just five hours after Trump made the joke, if that is the case this is my reply:

Do you find anything wrong about the timing, Trump says something and then all of a sudden "Russian hackers" respond within hours? Were they just waiting around for orders from Trump OR is it possible that the emails were leaked instead of hacked from within the DNC itself by someone or someones angry at Hillary because of her treatment of Bernie Sanders ?

If you listen to the Ray McGovern video below you will find it seems that he is not a Trump supporter and even suggests that Trump might be impeached on something other than non-existent collusion.


Ray McGovern 27 year C.I.A. veteran and co-founder of VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity) on Russia- gate

Ray McGovern - Wikipedia

Ray McGover on RT news from Jan, 2019 Starts @14:25, interesting piece on Pelosi and impeachment :

From April 22, 2019:
Pelosi To Democratic Colleagues: This Is Why We Can't Impeach Trump

John Bonifield, CNN supervising producer from 2017:

Actually, I do find it wrong that any candidate would ask an opposing state to perform illegal activity even in jest.

Is that the type of rhetoric and banter that we should allow for politicians in the name of jesting? How about we jest in other illegal actions like murdering or raping? Just because it was done in jest, justifies the comment? No, it doesn't.

 

[suncowiam]

So Trump & Hillary do the same thing (but for different hacker countries),
but you know Trump was serious & Hillary was wasn't. How is this known?

It's not the point that one was serious or not. Sure, Trump was joking. I never argued that point.

Politicians should not be joking about committing crimes, including Hillary.

Was it treasonous? I can't say for sure, but it was definitely wrong.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's not the point that one was serious or not. Sure, Trump was joking. I never argued that point.

Politicians should not be joking about committing crimes, including Hillary.

Was it treasonous? I can't say for sure, but it was definitely wrong.

I don't even care about them making such jokes.
But I can see that it's politically a bad idea to expose
themselves to over-eager critics.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Pay particular attention to his claim that the press
will reward Russia for finding the lost emails.
Obviously, the press would instead be livid.
Applying multivariable tensor calculus, we
may determine humorous intent.

I missed any attempt at humor.

 

[Revoltingest]

I missed any attempt at humor.

So you believe that Trump was entirely serious when he remarked that
the media would approve of Russian hackers finding the missing emails?
These are the same media who: compared him to Hitler, who pronounced
him guilty of treason for collusion with Russia, & of being Putin's puppet.
They'll rejoice at hackers finding Hillary's lost emails, & then presenting
even more of the same thing which inspired such venom? Astounding.

On top of that, he wants to enlist Russian help to win the election, but
instead of doing it secretly so that there'd be no political fallout, he calls
for it on nationally broadcast TV. This is serious? Astounding.

 

[Cooky]

Guys, this is no laughing matter! We need an investigation!

 

[Cooky]

Isn't it also true that Hillary was opposed to tariffs on Chinese steel..? Could be she's been colluding with the Chinese, and had one of those dizzy spells again and just spilled the beans.

 

[Revoltingest]

Guys, this is no laughing matter! We need an investigation!

It should take years, involve hundreds, & cost millions.
I hear that Mueller has just finished a project, & has become available.

 

[shmogie]

I find it odd that people cannot stand outside of themselves,
& look at their own thought processes. What they'd see....

Trump said something. He is worse than Hitler, and so
I will see how it can be viewed in the worst possible way.
Hillary said something. She is a Democrat, & they're good, so
I will see how it can be viewed in the best possible way.
Yes....this is all true because it's factual.

On second thought, I think the thing with hillary is way overblown.

Listening to Joe ¨the third try is the charm¨ Biden, I learned China is a paper tiger, could never compete with us in any sphere, and to worry about them is ridiculous.

I feel so much better now, hillary knew China couldn´t do what she asked, the egg is on Chinaś face. Ha Ha

 

[shmogie]

It should take years, involve hundreds, & cost millions.
I hear that Mueller has just finished a project, & has become available.

Hell, lets have 200 investigations ! Lets investigate everything and everybody. I am retired, but I could take a little piece of this investigation pie, $100,000 a month, very cheap by government standards.

When my report is done, in a year, I have a friend who them could investigate me !. With all the retired detectives investigating, this could go on for decades.

Following the democrat model, we would need no probable cause to investigate anyone, man could we ruin a lot of people !

 

[Revoltingest]

Hell, lets have 200 investigations ! Lets investigate everything and everybody. I am retired, but I could take a little piece of this investigation pie, $100,000 a month, very cheap by government standards.

When my report is done, in a year, I have a friend who them could investigate me !. With all the retired detectives investigating, this could go on for decades.

Following the democrat model, we would need no probable cause to investigate anyone, man could we ruin a lot of people !

And we could investigate anyone who writes a summary of your report.
I'm sure Nancy Pelosi would go along.

 

[ecco]

Neither was treason, in full context Trump was making a joke about the democrats when he said it and Hillary seems to be attempting to play on the past in a "what if" scenario most likely to keep the narrative alive in the lead up to 2020.

In full context, Trump was deadly serious when asking for help from the Russians.

Whether either that or Hillary's request are treasonous, I don't know.

If China and an Assange wannabe release Trump's tax returns and emails from anyone in the Trump administration I guess we will see what Barr chooses to do.

 

[ecco]

Isn't it also true that Hillary was opposed to tariffs on Chinese steel..? Could be she's been colluding with the Chinese,

Isn't it also true that farmers are opposed to tariffs on Chinese steel which resulted in China banning some farm product imports? Could be they've been colluding with the Chinese.

 

[tytlyf]

Spoiler: My secret view

Both Trump & Hillary were joking when they invited foreign hacking.
But of course anti-Trumpettes went off the deep end believing he
was serious, intentional & successful. This is TDS.

Let's watch to see if any pro-Trumpers exhibit HDS, & believe that
she too is serious in her invitation to hack the IRS.

There you go again...

One was hypothetical. The other was not.

 

[shmogie]

In full context, Trump was deadly serious when asking for help from the Russians.

Whether either that or Hillary's request are treasonous, I don't know.

If China and an Assange wannabe release Trump's tax returns and emails from anyone in the Trump administration I guess we will see what Barr chooses to do.

The old out of context argument. Nonsense.