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Hinduism and transsexuality?

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
I know about Hijras and how they are generally treated in India, but what is Hinduisms attitude towards transsexualism in general?

For example, what would the reaction be if a transsexual went to temple, partook in the holidays and wore saris and other feminate clothes?
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
I know about Hijras and how they are generally treated in India, but what is Hinduisms attitude towards transsexualism in general?

For example, what would the reaction be if a transsexual went to temple, partook in the holidays and wore saris and other feminate clothes?

Today it is bad in general but oddly enough among Shakta's (worshipers of the Goddess) there is a cross dressing and worshiping the Goddess as a hand maiden is a path to realization. I don't think it is wide spread but it exists.

In the past it is very clear that the Hindu's had a live and let live belief when it came to LGBT folks. There are old texts that talk about Gay marriage. This changed over the years after the Islamic conquest of India.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
This changed over the years after the Islamic conquest of India.

This fact is underestimated. In the North especially there is a lot of 'Islamisation', which is now recognised as Sanatana Dharma, unfortunately. You see it even in some temple architecture. So in the day to day life, there very well might be discrimination against transgendered peoples.
 
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Maya3

Well-Known Member
I know about Hijras and how they are generally treated in India, but what is Hinduisms attitude towards transsexualism in general?

For example, what would the reaction be if a transsexual went to temple, partook in the holidays and wore saris and other feminate clothes?

At my ashram we had a woman (male to female transsexual) she was very much part of the community and also was responsible for the fire, during Homa.

Maya
 
I am sorry if people have read this excerpt or if it's too long, but this is from the GALVA (Gay And Lesbian Vaishnava Association) article about tritiya prakrti (or third sex, people like transsexuals, gays and lesbians), written by Amara das Wilhelm:

Transgenders (Shandha)

The Sanskrit word shandha refers to men who behave like women or whose manhood is completely destroyed (the word shandhi similarly applies to women). This can refer to many types of third-gender people but is perhaps most commonly used to describe those with complete transgender identity. Such people do not identify with their physical sex but instead consider themselves and live their lives as members of the opposite sex. Male-to-female transgenders identify and live as women whereas female-to-male transgenders identify and live as men. They are also sometimes called transvestites or transsexuals and differ from gay males and lesbians in that they do not usually identify as homosexual and are less common.

It is possible that in ancient India, male-to-female transgenders may have sometimes castrated themselves in order to become feminized. More likely, however, since self-mutilation is greatly discouraged in Vedic culture, men of the third sex who identified as women would have tied their genitals up tightly against the groin with a kaupina, a practice that is still common in southern India and also found in various other world cultures. In a similar way, female-to-male transgenders would have strapped their breasts tightly against their torsos. Nowadays, however, such people often undergo hormone treatment and transsexual operations, especially in the West. Vedic culture allowed transgender people of the third sex to live openly according to their gender identity, and this is demonstrated in the Mahabharata story of Arjuna as Brihannala.

Castration was not a common or accepted practice of ancient India, and mutilation of the body is discouraged in Vedic texts and considered to be in the mode of darkness. Its current illegal practice in northern India among the hijra or eunuch class can be attributed to the former centuries of Muslim rule that once encouraged the practice among servants and slaves who were homosexual by nature. In South India, largely spared from Islamic rule and influence, there is a third-gender class similar to the hijra known as the jogappa, but they do not practice castration.

The abused hijra class of modern-day India is the sad result of cruel social policies directed against people of the third sex for almost a thousand years. Rejected by foreign overlords who ridiculed and condemned any form of gender-variant behavior as intrinsically evil and unnatural, these citizens were abandoned as social outcastes. Homosexual and transgender males could join the hijra class by castrating themselves but were otherwise forced to marry women and pretend to live as ordinary men. Unfortunately, this stifling social policy still remains dominant in India today and has become accepted by most modern-day Hindus.
 
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Do you know which texts those are? I'd love to find out more about this.

If you go under the 'gay' section of the Tritiya Prakriti article, you'll see a quote there.

"Gay males typically engaged in fraternal or casual love but were sometimes known to marry one another:

There are also third-sex citizens, sometimes greatly attached to each other and with complete faith in one another, who get married (parigraha) together.
(Kama Sutra 2.9.36)


There were eight different types of marriage according to the Vedic system, and the homosexual marriage that occurred between gay males or lesbians was classified under the gandharva or celestial variety. This type of marriage was not recommended for members of the brahmana community but often practiced by heterosexual men and women belonging to the other classes. The gandharva marriage is defined as a union of love and cohabitation, recognized under common law, but without the need of parental consent or religious ceremony. In the Jayamangala, an important twelfth-century commentary on the Kama Sutra, it is stated: 'Citizens with this kind of [homosexual] inclination, who renounce women and can do without them willingly because they love each other, get married together, bound by a deep and trusting friendship.' "
 
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Andal

resident hypnotist
When I was teaching religion at the university I taught a course about women in religion. As one of the readings, the students read about trangendered Krishna Bhaktas. Please forgive me for not remembering the source as I am a south Indian Vaishnava (not be ethnicity but by theology) as opposed to the North where this came from.

Anyway, after the Mahabharata war some of Arjuna's children spread Vaishnavism. One of the daughters in particular was renowned and many people wanted to study under her. She only took female students though. Some of the men who were super devoted, through their faith were transformed into women so that they could study with her.

I apologize again for not having the accurate details.

Also there is a tradition in many of the folk stories about Lord Krishna's lila where he dressed as a gopi and worshipped Srimati Radharani because it pleased her. So God himself engaged in a lila of being a transvestite.

There is also the avatara of Sri Vishnu as Mohini the woman dancer who mesmerized the assuras.

The stories go on and on. Even in India today the third gender is recognized as legitimate. While we may have our issues with gender equality in many respects, in this one in particular Hinduism has had a long tradition of acceptance.

Aum Hari Aum!!!
 
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