Hinduism

[metis]

I would eliminate the word "from" from that statement.

I can fully accept that.

 

[metis]

That is one of the things I most like in Hinduism.

It accepts upfront that people will have their own conceptions and that they do not conform to other people's expectations of what would be sacred all that often... and that "divine" is pretty much a freeform concept.

Ditto.

 

[metis]

Yes I also find this interesting, Hindus tolerate Christians and Jews far more than they do Muslims.

Maybe because they've been so frequently threated by them, especially Pakistan?

Being also “not people of the book”, and obvious polytheists, I think it’s clear who threw the first stone at whom…

You never heard of the Upanishads, the Vedas, and the Bhagavad Gita? And Hindus are not intrinsically polytheists, although some are. What difference is that to you?

 

[metis]

I am flabbergasted that anyone would suggest that Hindus in India are "overly tolerant" of other religions, when the evidence is overwhelming that this is clearly not the case.

In general, I think they are, but people are people are people... if you know what I mean.

My former rabbi spend time in the relatively sizable Jewish population in Karala Province and commented on the degree of tolerance there. And in the north, the acceptance of Buddhists that fled Tibet have been well welcomed there overall.

 

[GoodAttention]

Maybe because they've been so frequently threated by them, especially Pakistan?

Yes, obviously.

You never heard of the Upanishads, the Vedas, and the Bhagavad Gita? And Hindus are not intrinsically polytheists, although some are. What difference is that to you?

You are not understanding what I’m saying.

Note I wrote “people of the book” in quotations to emphasise the Quranic point of reference.

 

[metis]

You are not understanding what I’m saying.

Note I wrote “people of the book” in quotations to emphasise the Quranic point of reference.

Or maybe it is that you didn't point that out?

 

[GoodAttention]

Or maybe it is that you didn't point that out?

You are the one who didn't understand it, and instead of asking to clarify you came to your own conclusion.

Anyone with even a basic understanding of the Quran knows who the "People of the book" are.

 

[Aupmanyav]

The US Commission on International Religious Freedom found that the conflict in Manipur has a religious dimension, with more than 500 churches and two synagogues destroyed, and over 70,000 people displaced.

Let's talk about the 2002 Gujarat riots in India. It all started with the burning of a train in Godhra, which was blamed on a Muslim mob. Maybe they did it, and maybe they didn't. The rioting was widespread across Gujarat. They lasted for several months and resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1,000 to 2,000 people, with the majority being Muslims. We are talking communal attacks, including killings, rapes, and arson. There were widespread accusations of state and police complicity and inaction.

How about the 2013 Muzaffarnagar riots in Uttar Pradesh, India. It all began when a group of Muslim men were accused of harassing a Hindu woman (perhaps it happened, and perhaps it didn't). The violence spread rapidly, and resulted in the deaths of over 60 people and the displacement of more than 50,000 individuals. We are talking about large-scale communal violence, including arson, attacks on homes, and loss of property. Instead of quieting things down, local authorities just made things worse.

That is a blatant lie. Till before the disturbances, Kukis were part of the ministry in Manipur, which was affiliated to Modi's party, BJP.
No synagogues have ever been destroyed in India in more than 2,000 years of Jewish presence in India.

They did it, there is no question of 'may be'. Some of the perpetrators have been punished. A few got free for want of evidence. Of course, there was a riot, but any role by ruling party has been thoroughly rubbished by the Supreme Court of India.

"According to official figures, the riots ended with 1,044 dead, 223 missing, and 2,500 injured. Of the dead, 790 were Muslim and 254 Hindu."

2002 Gujarat riots - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why do you always say 'may be' when it comes to Muslims? The cause of Muzaffarnagar riots was an eve-teasing incident which escalated into a communal riot. And the girl belonged to a hot-headed martial tribe, the Jats. It was compounded by the inaction of the then anti-Hindu state government of Samajvadi Party. Even in Delhi, Congress (Indian National Congress lead by Sonia Maino Gandhi) was in power. Modi's Hindu party (BJP) was not in the picture.

"Political parties such as Bahujan Samaj Party, Bharatiya Janata Party, Rashtriya Lok Dal and Muslim organizations including Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind demanded the dismissal of ruling Samajwadi Party government and imposition of President's rule in the state.

The police arrested eleven members of the girl's family for killing the Muslim youth. According to Zee News report, the police did not act against the killers of the Hindu brothers.

A state home department official said that 38 people died in Muzaffarnagar, 3 in Baghpat, and one each in Saharanpur and Meerut."

2013 Muzaffarnagar riots - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(By Indian standards, it was a small riot.)

 

[Aupmanyav]

How does this explain that it is the Christian churches being burned down, and not the Hindu temples?

The burning of Christian churches is a fake story planted by Christian evangelists. See my previous post. Kukis were part of the BJP coalition.

Dude, you really aren't doing yourself a favor with these remarks.

These are facts borne by the history, no exaggeration. All the Buddhist institutions in Gandhara and three Buddhist universities, Taxila in Punjab, Nalanda and Vikramshila in Bihar were destroyed by Muslims. Three of the most important Hindu temples - Varanasi (Lord Shiva), Ayodhya (Lord Rama) and Mathura (Lord Krishna) along with thousands of others were destroyed by Muslims.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The burning of Christian churches is a fake story planted by Christian evangelists.

ROFL I'm reading these stories in INDIAN newspapers. I guess your media is controlled by Chrsitians LOL

 

[chinu]

Does Hinduism have anybody that’s living in the flesh that’s considered to be a manifestation of God with divine qualities? If so, exactly what are these divine qualities?

For example: like the true president/head of any country who is wholeheartedly happy with abiding all laws, rules and regulations of that country.
Similarly; the divine quality of that person is that he/she is wholeheartedly happy with abiding the Will-of-God*.

*Will-of-God = The creation and happenings that we are seeing all around.

 

[metis]

You are the one who didn't understand it, and instead of asking to clarify you came to your own conclusion.

Anyone with even a basic understanding of the Quran knows who the "People of the book" are.

That's pretty much a self-centered response as some other religions also say as such, including Judaism and Christianity, as you simply don't have a monopoly on the "People of the book".

 

[LuisDantas]

For example: like the true president/head of any country who is wholeheartedly happy with abiding all laws, rules and regulations of that country.
Similarly; the divine quality of that person is that he/she is wholeheartedly happy with abiding the Will-of-God*.

*Will-of-God = The creation and happenings that we are seeing all around.

Honest question: do you think this is useful in practice as criteria to perceive divine quality?

 

[Aupmanyav]

ROFL I'm reading these stories in INDIAN newspapers. I guess your media is controlled by Chrsitians LOL

You said 500 in Manipur. Yes, sometimes it happens, because people build temples, mosques, madarasas and churches on government land. At the moment, Hindus are objecting the construction of two mosques in Himachal Pradesh in Simla and one other city, Mandi. One was built on government land and the other was extended in contravention of the regulations. Thankfully, at both the places, Muslims themselves have agreed to make corrections. This and Balngladeshi illegal migration is overlooked by opposition governments because of the votes that such actions bring in.

Mosque agitations in Himachal Pradesh at DuckDuckGo

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[Saint Frankenstein]

Dude, you really aren't doing yourself a favor with these remarks.

You're probably wasting your time. Most of the Hindus here who are regular posters are big fans of the BJP and don't want to hear any criticism. It's been brought up many times and the result is always the same - denial and shifting the blame.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Does Hinduism have anybody that’s living in the flesh that’s considered to be a manifestation of God with divine qualities? If so, exactly what are these divine qualities?

Yes, there's people worshipped as avatars in India. You can find many cases of deformed children worshipped in villages as incarnations of some deity or other, as well as spiritual leaders worshipped as avatars.

 

[sayak83]

You're probably wasting your time. Most of the Hindus here who are regular posters are big fans of the BJP and don't want to hear any criticism. It's been brought up many times and the result is always the same - denial and shifting the blame.

I am not. Many people confuse supporting BJP with Hinduism and nationalism. What has happened to Kukis in Manipur is atrocious and is clearly instigated by BJP supported extremists who seek to keep Christian tribals in their "place"

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I am not. Many people confuse supporting BJP with Hinduism and nationalism. What has happened to Kukis in Manipur is atrocious and is clearly instigated by BJP supported extremists who seek to keep Christian tribals in their "place"

Thank you. Certainly not all Hindus here are as I said.

 

[GoodAttention]

That's pretty much a self-centered response as some other religions also say as such, including Judaism and Christianity, as you simply don't have a monopoly on the "People of the book".

LOL.

If it's self-centered then blame the author, don't blame me for quoting it.

 

[chinu]

Honest question: do you think this is useful in practice as criteria to perceive divine quality?

Dear, is there any other option ?