Homeowners should shoot burglars to ‘save taxpayer’s money,’ Florida sheriff says

[Stevicus]

Is there a good deal of evidence to show that capital punishment is an effective deterrent?

Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence!


Grandpappy told my pappy, back in my day, son
A man had to answer for the wicked that he done
Take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree,
Round up all them bad boys hang them high in the street
For all the people to see

That justice is the one thing you should always find
You got to saddle up your boys, you got to draw a hard line
When the gun smoke settles we'll sing a victory tune
And we'll all meet back at the local saloon
We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses

 

[Secret Chief]

massive imprisonment

Seriously?

"The United States has the largest prison population in the world, and the highest per-capita incarceration rate. One out of every 5 people imprisoned across the world is incarcerated in the United States."

- Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia

 

[Mock Turtle]

More an issue because the US is flooded with weapons, and where most other countries without such take a rather dim view as to killing for stealing or trespass. I've just read a book about the last few decades as to Putin's rise in Russia and can see how they are equally tied to their past and constrained by such, just like the USA is.

 

[Secret Chief]

Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence!


Grandpappy told my pappy, back in my day, son
A man had to answer for the wicked that he done
Take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree,
Round up all them bad boys hang them high in the street
For all the people to see

That justice is the one thing you should always find
You got to saddle up your boys, you got to draw a hard line
When the gun smoke settles we'll sing a victory tune
And we'll all meet back at the local saloon
We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses

There is certainly a casual approach to the use of violence by the state.

 

[Revoltingest]

Seriously?

"The United States has the largest prison population in the world, and the highest per-capita incarceration rate. One out of every 5 people imprisoned across the world is incarcerated in the United States."

- Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia

Yes, I say that massive imprisonment is a serious problem.
It's expensive, it's counter-productive, & it's a civil liberties failure.
You disagree?

 

[Secret Chief]

Yes, I say that massive imprisonment is a serious problem.
You disagree?

Sorry, misread your post. Don't know nuffink about deleting.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sorry, misread your post. Don't know nuffink about deleting.

I found the post.
But it's weird that it's not accessible from your quote.
Must be @Quagmire mess'n with me again.

 

[Secret Chief]

I found the post.
But it's weird that it's not accessible from your quote.
Must be @Quagmire mess'n with me again.

Either that, or the Deep State.

 

[Revoltingest]

Either that, or the Deep State.

Or are they the same thing?

 

[Secret Chief]

Or are they the same thing?

My god I never saw that! It's an anagram!

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It seems a very high-risk venture for very low return - unless someone knows that there's something valuable inside.

Sticking around to shoot a home invader also seems like a very high-risk venture for very low return.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Might be better to deal with the causes of burglary.

Or you could just keep shooting everyone.

School shooting? Arm the teachers.

Burglaries? Arm the homeowners.

Wtf.

Why does your nation never deal with the causes of crime?

It's like when my mom was robbed at gunpoint, the cops just said to move because It's a bad area or get a gun.

Most of those mass shootings are preventable as there's almost always warning signs about those, but people simply don't pay attention to them or take them as seriously as they should.

A lot of burglaries and robberies are caused by poverty. Reminds me of this:

 

[Debater Slayer]

It's like when my mom was robbed at gunpoint, the cops just said to move because It's a bad area or get a gun.

What a simplistic and terribly irresponsible reaction from an institution that's supposed to combat crime.

Saying an area is "bad" seems to treat crime as a phenomenon that develops in isolation of other factors instead of being caused by them. Historically, stigmatizing poorer areas and slums by painting them with a broad brush due to an (expected) increase in crime has also frequently been underpinned by classism and contempt for the poor.

 

[mangalavara]

I'd shoot a home invader. I think most people would.

I think any person who wants to preserve his or her own life and the lives of his or her family would shoot a home invader.

His life lost would be a benefit to society.

I agree.

Burglaries? Arm the homeowners.

Yes. It might make the burglar think twice about violating the sanctity of somebody's home.

Why does your nation never deal with the causes of crime?

Crime is ultimately a spiritual problem, from my perspective.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Might be better to deal with the causes of burglary.

Or you could just keep shooting everyone.

School shooting? Arm the teachers.

Burglaries? Arm the homeowners.

Wtf.

Why does your nation never deal with the causes of crime?

I was thinking the same thing.

Apparently, at least 17 times, this guy looked at all the options available to him and decided that, in that moment, the best option available to him is to break into a home and steal stuff.

... and this is in Florida. Florida, the state where every time we're about to visit, my father-in-law reminds us not to honk at anyone while we're driving "because they're armed and you're not."

 

[Kenny]

It's a good question, and I would say the answer is yes, burglars should not burgle, as it would save taxpayers money - not to mention the pain and aggravation of those who get burglarized.

I like the word "burgle". It seems kinda of a strange word to mouth.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think any person who wants to preserve his or her own life and the lives of his or her family would shoot a home invader.

I don't think killing someone is appropriate in that situation.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

You know what would save more tax dollars? Defunding the police. They're clearly not helping if they just want taxpayers to terminate any potential home invader. </joke>

In all seriousness, adding more guns won't help problems caused by massive wealth inequality, poverty and hunger.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I don't think killing someone is appropriate in that situation.

It depends. If I managed to remain composed enough in that situation, I'd definitely aim for an incapacitating non-lethal shot, such as one to the leg.

However, I absolutely don't think anyone should be charged with murder or manslaughter for fatally shooting a burglar whose intentions they couldn't know about. There's no way to know whether a burglar invading a home in the dark could kill, rape, or otherwise severely attack the occupants, and if the choice is between risking being attacked or killing the burglar, I can't fault anyone for going with the latter.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article260657947.html









Should burglars be shot to save the taxpayers' money?

Not that it's any great surprise when police officers take such a casual and cavalier attitude towards shooting people.

What also struck me about this was that this alleged burglar had been arrested 17 times - a "frequent flyer," as they called him. It sounds like this guy needs some professional help. If he keeps this up and they keep letting him out to commit more burglaries, then he probably will end up getting shot someday.

I find it worrying that someone with that much disregard for life is doing things like making decisions about how to train cops who do traffic stops.