Homosexuality

[Wildswanderer]

Christians/the Church. Like how they put gays on blast but ignore the guys who have been married multiple times.

I haven't seen that. In our church sin is sin.
It's all forgivable, but the point is not to continue in it.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Who is " they"?
Because that sounds like a pretty broad brush.

Sorry, I meant the religious right, but of course, not all of them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I haven't seen that. In our church sin is sin.
It's all forgivable, but the point is not to continue in it.

Of course, sin is sin. But they single out certain sins more than others while entirely overlooking others.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Of course, sin is sin. But they single out certain sins more than others while entirely overlooking others.

I don't know who " they" are.

 

[BilliardsBall]

I have anecdotal evidence of people getting drunk on soft drinks. That doesn't mean punch will get you drunk.

Is this why Mother Theresa began to doubt her god?
And, no, they've not dealt with demons.

You claim. I'll go with real science and evidence accumulated over numerous longitudinal studies.
And free? Saved? From what? Your red boogeyman?

Mother Theresa was not a good person, and her efforts to reach Heaven by perfecting herself through good works were in vain.

Biblically speaking, eternal life comes from trusting Jesus, who was perfect, to perfect us for Heaven.

 

[Sand Dancer]

I haven't seen that. In our church sin is sin.
It's all forgivable, but the point is not to continue in it.

So could you be celibate for the rest of your life? We have a natural sexual desire and bad things happen when we tamp that down.

 

[Wildswanderer]

So could you be celibate for the rest of your life? We have a natural sexual desire and bad things happen when we tamp that down.

What bad things?
If I didn't have sex ever again it's somehow going to cause the world to be worse?
I'm over 50, I think I could manage it fine if I didn't have a wife.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't know who " they" are.

You have to have it defined again?

 

[Sand Dancer]

What bad things?
If I didn't have sex ever again it's somehow going to cause the world to be worse?
I'm over 50, I think I could manage it fine if I didn't have a wife.

That's your choice. It should be a choice for all. We all see how these moralizers end up getting caught in men's bathrooms, with prostitutes, or child porn. It's hypocritical and gross.

 

[Wildswanderer]

That's your choice. It should be a choice for all. We all see how these moralizers end up getting caught in men's bathrooms, with prostitutes, or child porn. It's hypocritical and gross.

Oh, so now some kinds of sex are wrong?
Interesting.
I guess those people should have suppressed their urges, unlike the ones you were talking about earlier?

 

[Sand Dancer]

Oh, so now some kinds of sex are wrong?
Interesting.
I guess those people should have suppressed their urges, unlike the ones you were talking about earlier?

No, I am saying it's hypocritical. The US is so weird about sex. Most of the rest of the free world is pretty natural about it. Puritans did not do us any favors.

 

[Link]

Per Quran, you have to overtaken by intoxication of Iblis magic to next level of evil to be homosexual/bisexual, so I would make them aware of that, and my view, and try to reform them, but I wouldn't embrace their choice.

This is a choice to "rebel" and "play" early in childhood, and so I would also warn my child about the propaganda of the west and explain them about magic and demons and to guard against intrusion from Iblis.

I don't think it's possible to disown your child, he/she always is your child whether you like it or not.

 

[Wildswanderer]

No, I am saying it's hypocritical. The US is so weird about sex. Most of the rest of the free world is pretty natural about it. Puritans did not do us any favors.

So it's ok if they do rape children?
I'm so confused.
What is natural and what isn't?
If we only rape grown ups, is that natural?

 

[Sand Dancer]

So it's ok if they do rape children?
I'm so confused.
What is natural and what isn't?
If we only rape grown ups, is that natural?

Oh geez, seriously? Between consenting adults is fine. Give me a break.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Oh geez, seriously? Between consenting adults is fine. Give me a break.

No but you seem a little hypocritical yourself.
You can't go around telling people not to suppress their urges and not give any boundaries.
What if thier urge is to have sex with corpses?
Truth is, you're just as much moralizing as the people you are criticizing, you just want them to draw the lines where you do.

 

[Sand Dancer]

No but you seem a little hypocritical yourself.
You can't go around telling people not to suppress their urges and not give any boundaries.
What if thier urge is to have sex with corpses?
Truth is, you're just as much moralizing as the people you are criticizing, you just want them to draw the lines where you do.

Our brains don't control for that like they do for sexual orientation. Again, consenting adults encompasses a lot of different sexualities. No one is being hurt by it.

 

[KWED]

All that has been proven is that people who are more libidinous will reach out to alternative sex opportunities--adultery and homosexual practice.

Nonsense. People only have homosexual sex because they are sexually attracted to the same sex, not because they have a high sex drive.
I am "libidinous" but have never had homosexual sex. I wish I was bisexual, because it would open up more opportunities, but I am simply not sexually attracted to men in the slightest, despite wanting to be. Which kinda blows your strange hypothesis out of the water.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Oh, so now some kinds of sex are wrong?
Interesting.
I guess those people should have suppressed their urges, unlike the ones you were talking about earlier?

I see the idea that the morality of sexual acts is based on consent and harm is completely foreign to you.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Our brains don't control for that like they do for sexual orientation

There's no evidence that we have no control over our sexuality. And if the other urges that you find taboo don't come from our brains where they come from?

 

[BigBill88]

So it's ok if they do rape children?
I'm so confused.
What is natural and what isn't?
If we only rape grown ups, is that natural?

Homosexuality does not cause Paedophilia which is sexual desire for Children which can be both men and women your confused.