Hopefully not true

[Nimos]

Just read on the Danish news, that they think that a Russian mercenary group is in or might be heading to Ukraine known as the Wagner Group.

These wear no Russian flags so that Putin can deny them, despite him being very good friends with their leader.

From what is known about the group, they are apparently not all that concerned about international laws. And are know to do a lot of war crimes, ranging from everything from rape, torture to straight up murdering civilians. According to the news, there were a video released from Syria, where these people have been involved as well, showing how they broke arms and legs of a Syria prisoner of war with a sledgehammer before beheading him and burning him in the desert.

The leader looks like this:

Those tattoos are SS marks from Nazi Germany, so much for Putin fighting against Nazis I guess.

 

[Spiderman]

I cringe to think of some one's bones breaking by a sledgehammer as is! I know what broken bones feel like! Oh God this world is so disgusting! Every day I'm not in the hellish chronic agony some are in, is a day I should be grateful!

As someone who believes in God, stuff like this makes me hate God for permitting it, and leaving people so blind, helpless, and sick, refusing to help, heal, enlighten, guide, and protect people!

Even if this group isn't raping , torturing, and breaking bones, some one always is, and who is at fault for so much agony, but some omnipotent all-powerful God (If he exists) who doesn't get off his lazy , cruel, selfish ***, and help people!

It makes me so sick!

 

[mangalavara]

Those tattoos are SS marks from Nazi Germany, so much for Putin fighting against Nazis I guess.

Putin is doing such a good job at fighting the Ukrainian Nazi regime that has a Jew at the top whose views are rather liberal. In fact, Putin is doing such a great job at fighting Nazis that a Russian missile hit a Holocaust memorial in Ukraine, which was a symbolic way of smashing Nazi atrocities. I'm being sarcastic, of course.

 

[Valjean]

Didn't the annexation of Crimea involve unmarked Russian soldiers and vehicles, and denials by Russia? Didn't it do this in Chechnya, too?

 

[Nimos]

Didn't the annexation of Crimea involve unmarked Russian soldiers and vehicles, and denials by Russia? Didn't it do this in Chechnya, too?

Yes, I believe these were also involved here. They are basically a mini army with own tanks etc. without any morality it seems.

 

[Spiderman]

Where was the dude in the photo born?

He looks like someone my mother would date!

 

[Nimos]

Where was the dude in the photo born?

He looks like someone my mother would date!

I assume in Russia, but don't know.

 

[Stevicus]

Just read on the Danish news, that they think that a Russian mercenary group is in or might be heading to Ukraine known as the Wagner Group.

These wear no Russian flags so that Putin can deny them, despite him being very good friends with their leader.

From what is known about the group, they are apparently not all that concerned about international laws. And are know to do a lot of war crimes, ranging from everything from rape, torture to straight up murdering civilians. According to the news, there were a video released from Syria, where these people have been involved as well, showing how they broke arms and legs of a Syria prisoner of war with a sledgehammer before beheading him and burning him in the desert.

The leader looks like this:

Those tattoos are SS marks from Nazi Germany, so much for Putin fighting against Nazis I guess.

I found this article: What is Wagner Group — shadowy Russian mercenaries 'in Kyiv to assassinate Volodymyr Zelensky' (theprint.in)

Founded in 2014, Wagner is a private military company accused of covertly working for the Russian government to conduct combat operations in different parts of the world. The EU sanctioned 8 individuals in the group for human rights abuses last December.

Mercenaries from the Wagner Group, a Russian private military company recently sanctioned by the EU for alleged human rights abuses, are operating in Kyiv with orders from the Kremlin to assassinate Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to a report by UK newspaper The Times Monday.

The group has been accused of covertly working for the Russian government to conduct combat operations in different parts of the world. It has a presence in Libya — which is at present fighting a civil war — as well as in Syria, Mozambique, Mali, Sudan, and the Central African Republic.

From October 2015 to at least 2018, Wagner fought with the Russian military and the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria.

Dmitry Utkin, a former Russian lieutenant who also served in the Russian Federation’s main intelligence agency or GRU, is believed to be the founder of the group.

The shadowy mercenary unit was also involved in the Donbas conflict in 2014, including in Crimea, fighting “Ukrainian fascists”. Some experts have alleged that Utkin and mercenaries under him are “ironically” neo-Nazis themselves.

What is the Wagner Group?
Founded in early 2014, the Wagner Group is a private military and security company believed to be used by the Kremlin to carry out its strategic objectives, even though Moscow has denied such claims.

A 2017 Bloomberg report estimated that the group has as many as 6,000 mercenaries.

On paper, Wagner Group is privately owned but its management and operations are “deeply intertwined” with the Russian military and intelligence community, says American thinktank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

In a report published in September 2020, CSIS explains that post the Cold War, private security companies (PSCs) and private military companies (PMCs) became highly sought after by both state and non-state actors. These militias are essentially ‘freelance soldiers’ who come cheap and are more efficient than a regular military force because one can deploy a small number of fighters for a targeted mission. More so, such groups are less accountable.

The US government also uses PMCs such as private military firm Black Water, now known as ACADEMI. In September 2007, Blackwater mercenaries contracted by the US government during the war in Iraq, reportedly shot at Iraqi civilians, killing 17, in Nisour Square, Baghdad. Four Black Water mercenaries were thereafter imprisoned in the US, until pardoned by former US President Donald Trump in December 2020.

Wagner Group too has been accused of atrocities. In December 2021, the EU imposed sanctions on 8 individuals and three entities from the group in connection with alleged human rights abuses in the Central African Republic.

“Wagner Group has recruited, trained and sent private military operatives to conflict zones around the world to fuel violence, loot natural resources and intimidate civilians in violation of international law, including international human rights law,” the EU stated.

It accused the group of torture, arbitrary executions and killings, and “destabilising activities” in regions like Donbas in Ukraine.

Who is Dmitri Utkin?
A former special forces colonel, Dmitry Utkin is said to be the founder and commander of Wagner Group, named after his call sign — unique identifiers used in military communications — ‘Wagner PMC’. It is not confirmed whether Utkin created the group on his own or whether at the behest of the Russian government.

He served in both Chechen wars (1994-96 and 1999-2009) and also participated in Russian operations against Ukraine in 2014.

Until 2013, Utkin served in the GRU, gaining the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. He was also briefly part of another PMC, Moran Security Group.

Last March, pictures emerged online purportedly showing three tattoos on Utkin’s collar bones and chest of logos related to Waffen-SS, a military unit of the SS organisation curated by the German Nazi Party.

In a study published in non-profit journal Res Publica, Lukas Andriukaitis, Associate Director at the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab (DFRLab), explained the Neo-Nazi leanings of these tattoos.

“Taking a closer look at the photos, the Nazi collar tabs with the Waffen SS logo on the left and the military rank on the right can be seen on Mr Utkin’s body. Below on the chest you can see the Reichsadler eagle. All three tattoos are merchandise from Waffen-SS, a military unit of the SS organisation curated by the German Nazi Party,” wrote Andriukaitis.

In December 2016, Utkin was photographed at a Kremlin reception where he was reportedly decorated with a military honour for his services in Ukraine. Russian news website Fontanka shared the picture on Twitter.

 

[Valjean]

Yes, I believe these were also involved here. They are basically a mini army with own tanks etc. without any morality it seems.

An army without morality???
Somehow, a moral army seems a bit of an oxymoron, to me.

 

[Stevicus]

An army without morality???
Somehow, a moral army seems a bit of an oxymoron, to me.

Yeah, I know. I think perceptions might be forged by ideas of armies being led by distinguished, educated "gentlemen" who follow a code of honor.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So, if Putin gets in trouble over these guys will Bush Jr. get in trouble over Blackwater?

 

[Spiderman]

So, if Putin gets in trouble over these guys will Bush Jr. get in trouble over Blackwater?

Shadow, You little Genius you!

 

[Spiderman]

Yeah, I know. I think perceptions might be forged by ideas of armies being led by distinguished, educated "gentlemen" who follow a code of honor.

You seem to be implying something with that image.

 

[Lyndon]

Putin is doing such a good job at fighting the Ukrainian Nazi regime that has a Jew at the top whose views are rather liberal. In fact, Putin is doing such a great job at fighting Nazis that a Russian missile hit a Holocaust memorial in Ukraine, which was a symbolic way of smashing Nazi atrocities. I'm being sarcastic, of course.

Yeah the Jewish President of Ukraine lied about the holocaust memorial being hit to drum up sympathy, when an Israeli observer said the holocaust memorial was unscathed, lot of Propaganda on both sides of this nightmare

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yeah the Jewish President of Ukraine lied about the holocaust memorial being hit to drum up sympathy, when an Israeli observer said the holocaust memorial was unscathed, lot of Propaganda on both sides of this nightmare

Sources?

 

[Lyndon]

Sources?

read it on MSN

 

[Shadow Wolf]

read it on MSN

Everyone I saw on MSN says it was damaged.

 

[Sedim Haba]

Just read on the Danish news, that they think that a Russian mercenary group is in or might be heading to Ukraine known as the Wagner Group.

These wear no Russian flags so that Putin can deny them, despite him being very good friends with their leader.

From what is known about the group, they are apparently not all that concerned about international laws. And are know to do a lot of war crimes, ranging from everything from rape, torture to straight up murdering civilians. According to the news, there were a video released from Syria, where these people have been involved as well, showing how they broke arms and legs of a Syria prisoner of war with a sledgehammer before beheading him and burning him in the desert.

The leader looks like this:

Those tattoos are SS marks from Nazi Germany, so much for Putin fighting against Nazis I guess.

It's true. They're there to assassinate the leaders.

 

[Lyndon]

Everyone I saw on MSN says it was damaged.

that story has been retracted, it was the BBC

The Babyn Yar memorial in Kyiv was not damaged by a Russian missile strike as previously claimed, according to the latest reports.

On Tuesday, Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky said a Russian missile had hit the site which honours the 33,000 Jewish people murdered there by Nazis during World War 2. He called it "history repeating".

Natan Sharansky, an Israeli politician and spokesman for the memorial centre condemned Russia's leader for the bombing at the time, saying: "It is symbolic that he [Putin] starts attacking Kyiv by bombing the site of the Babyn Yar, the biggest of Nazi massacres."

But, a journalist for the Israeli publication Yediot Ahronot later visited the site, and reported that despite three missiles landing nearby, the memorial is "unscathed".

Speaking on Wednesday to American Jewish magazine Forward, Sharansky clarified that the missiles damaged a Jewish cemetery there, as well as a nearby Soviet-era sports complex that the memorial is seeking to acquire.

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[RestlessSoul]

Just read on the Danish news, that they think that a Russian mercenary group is in or might be heading to Ukraine known as the Wagner Group.

These wear no Russian flags so that Putin can deny them, despite him being very good friends with their leader.

From what is known about the group, they are apparently not all that concerned about international laws. And are know to do a lot of war crimes, ranging from everything from rape, torture to straight up murdering civilians. According to the news, there were a video released from Syria, where these people have been involved as well, showing how they broke arms and legs of a Syria prisoner of war with a sledgehammer before beheading him and burning him in the desert.

The leader looks like this:

Those tattoos are SS marks from Nazi Germany, so much for Putin fighting against Nazis I guess.

Looks like Wilko Johnson. Bet Wilko's a better guitarist though...