Horseface and Pocohantas and Crooked Hillary and Facelift Bleeder....

[metis]

Trump is accepted by Evangelists because he does what they would like to do, but now they have a champion who will do it for them...Trump throwing salt in this wound is healthy, since it makes everyone aware of the defect in character that needs to be corrected, so names can never hurt.

So, this is your excuse for Trump's many words and deeds that hurt innocent people? This is how you conveniently excuse immorality because it's politically expedient?

Here is what the Church has long called the Seven Deadly Sins, so let's see how Trump stacks up to these:
Lust
Gluttony
Greed
Sloth
Wrath
Envy
Pride -- Seven deadly sins - Wikipedia

So, are these important, iyo? Do you excuse these away for others or for yourself if you, I, or anyone else violates them?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You didn't mention the paid supporters.

Not exactly "really enthusiastic".

 

[Anthem]

Not exactly "really enthusiastic".

They appear to be. Isn't that enough?

 

[Estro Felino]

First of all, I don't excuse immorality on the basis of numbers. Secondly, a country is not "pagan"-- people may or may not be. And finally, intentionally hurting innocent people is immoral in my book, and I don't even need the Bible to tell me that.

Well...forgive me but u brought up religion as if it had something to do with it.
His sex life is irrelevant to me...
the Italian PM is loyal to him...so must I

 

[metis]

the Italian PM is loyal to him...so must I

"To cooperate with evil is evil"-- Gandhi. Therefore, when you endorse someone whom has consistently hurt innocent people by words and deeds, you are doing evil, imo. But I betcha if it was you who was being hurt, you'd be singing a different tune, but since it's only other people, what do you care, right?

 

[pearl]

Why won't decent Americans stand up and tell this foul-mouthed troll one or two of the rules that we here on these forums obey?

Trump personifies all the negatives that have been festering beneath the surface. It may have begun with the " Basket of deplorables " but now the means justifies the end for even the more civil, and as long their political goals are met they will hold their nose and remain silent.

 

[metis]

It may have begun with the " Basket of deplorables "

With Trump, it started long before that, and people whom have known him for decades say that what we've been seeing and hearing over the last few years is simply just vintage Trump.

Even in "The Art of the Deal" he says that his German father brought him up to recognize that they come from a long stream of "warriors and kings" and that he should accept and act as such. And when we listen to Trump and see how he acts, to me that lesson comes out "in spades".


BTW, I literally deplored Hillary's saying "basket of deplorables", and that really came back to haunt her, imo. I was not for her to begin with, but her saying those words really "frosted" me-- I'm already too sweet as it is.

 

[pearl]

BTW, I literally deplored Hillary's saying "basket of deplorables", and that really came back to haunt her, imo.

As did I at the time. I felt many were duped by Trump. But now?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

BTW, I literally deplored Hillary's saying "basket of deplorables", and that really came back to haunt her, imo.

She wasn't wrong. But the sort of people to whom she was referring HATE having their deplorability explicitly mentioned. Saying it was a major strategic error, because, while she wasn't wrong in her assessment, coming out and saying it only served to energise the very deplorables she was talking about.

 

[Subduction Zone]

She wasn't wrong. But the sort of people to whom she was referring HATE having their deplorability explicitly mentioned. Saying it was a major strategic error, because, while she wasn't wrong in her assessment, coming out and saying it only served to energise the very deplorables she was talking about.

To be fair she said One could put half of Trump's supporters in a basket of deplorables. I think that was a bit high. It is better to underestimate in a situation like that than to overestimate.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

To be fair she said One could put half of Trump's supporters in a basket of deplorables. I think that was a bit high. It is better to underestimate in a situation like that than to overestimate.

My point stands. The rest of us knew who those Trump supporters were, so saying it didn't inform us of anything, but the inferiority complex bullies to whom she was referring, who MAY otherwise grown bored of their Trumpetting, were instead incensed at being so described and doubled down. No benefit, all cost.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My point stands. The rest of us knew who those Trump supporters were, so saying it didn't inform us of anything, but the inferiority complex bullies to whom she was referring, who MAY otherwise grown bored of their Trumpetting, were instead incensed at being so described and doubled down. No benefit, all cost.

Oh they exist and in significant numbers on the Trump side. The problem with overestimating the number is that one drives those that are not "deplorable" even deeper into the Trump side.

 

[Shaul]

Oh, look, another gratuitous Trump bashing thread. It must be Friday.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh, look, another gratuitous Trump bashing thread. It must be Friday.

This started before Friday, and if Trump could act presidential there would be far fewer such threads, they are hardly "gratuitous". Just because you can spell a word does not mean that you should try to use it.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Oh, look, another gratuitous Trump bashing thread. It must be Friday.

When he does something worthy of something other than being bashed, let us know and we can discuss it.

 

[metis]

Oh, look, another gratuitous Trump bashing thread. It must be Friday.

So we should just ignore his blatant immoral words and actions and just be happy that we may have a few more bucks in our pockets as you have?

I don't expect our politicians to be saints, but neither do I feel we should ignore actions that hurt others and hurt the country as a whole. We have lost any moral ascendancy that we had with this president, and if you think I'm exaggerating then maybe google Trump's approval rating internationally and see what you find. Here's one that you can check out: Trump Approval Worldwide Remains Low Especially Among Key Allies | Pew Research Center

 

[Shaul]

So we should just ignore his blatant immoral words and actions and just be happy that we may have a few more bucks in our pockets as you have?

I don't expect our politicians to be saints, but neither do I feel we should ignore actions that hurt others and hurt the country as a whole. We have lost any moral ascendancy that we had with this president, and if you think I'm exaggerating then maybe google Trump's approval rating internationally and see what you find. Here's one that you can check out: Trump Approval Worldwide Remains Low Especially Among Key Allies | Pew Research Center

Pocahontas is an immoral word? Who knew?

 

[Shaul]

This started before Friday, and if Trump could act presidential there would be far fewer such threads, they are hardly "gratuitous". Just because you can spell a word does not mean that you should try to use it.

Yep, gratuitous, exactly as I wrote.

What’s a matter? Did a grown show up and ruin your sophomoric silliness? Ah, poor baby.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yep, gratuitous, exactly as I wrote.

What’s a matter? Did a grown show up and ruin your sophomoric silliness? Ah, poor baby.

An empty claim is worthless. You as well have admitted that you were wrong.

Try again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Pocahontas is an immoral word? Who knew?

Yes it appears that you missed the lesson in kindergarten on name calling and racism.