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How are fanatics made?
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Eliot Wild
Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
Overdosing on self-righteousness and self-importance, that's what causes it.
The fanatic, especially the religious fanatic, believes the righteousness and importance of their cause is more consequential than other's human rights, perhaps even more grave and consequential even than another's right to life. Hence, terrorist bombings and other forms of religious extremism that result in the deaths of innocent people.
The fanatic, especially the religious fanatic, believes the righteousness and importance of their cause is more consequential than other's human rights, perhaps even more grave and consequential even than another's right to life. Hence, terrorist bombings and other forms of religious extremism that result in the deaths of innocent people.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
What differentiates fanaticism from enthusiasm?
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Why does that make me think of Man U?
Enthusiasm is generally seen as positive, fanaticism is generally seen as negative.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
That's how I see it too.
So fanatics are the product of the observer.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
I think there are a few types of fanaticism. but I'll stick to what I suppose this thread aims at.
I think there are various factors which may include (but not always exclusive) poverty and harsh conditions, a breeding ground for superstitions, one form or the other of indoctrination, economic distress.
I think there are various factors which may include (but not always exclusive) poverty and harsh conditions, a breeding ground for superstitions, one form or the other of indoctrination, economic distress.
Fanatacism is enthusiasm on steroids, combined with the loss of empathy for others.
Hmm, a product of?
Or rather that fanaticism is perceived subjectively? (Like practically everything)
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
By that would members of disciplined forces be fanatics?
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Is there a difference?
Man of Faith
Well-Known Member
Religion, politics and sports cause fanatics. I am proud to say I am a fanatic for Christ.
I was wondering if that is what you meant.
But still, based on my understanding of fanaticism I regard it as a product of threat to lifestyle and identity. People react quite strongly to that.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
They would be well trained, not indoctrinated.
Anything relating to identity/self/community can cause fanaticism. We are motivated by what is important to our existence.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
I was reading an article today (Miller and Rose 2001) which said "Discipline must be internal rather than external, the fighting man must pride himself on the discipline and order of his unit. Hence the object of man management was to instil the organization's aims and purposes into the individual so that he would feel them identical to his own" (p.371)
I'm not at this point arguing one way or the other, but do you think the above is training rather than indoctrination or that it is mistaken?
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
I cant really comment on all armed forces around the world, or on all units. there is no doubt that there is a sensation of what can be described as loyalty, a bond and a sense of pride.
I'm embellishing on the form of indoctrination that says they are consistently under threat of attack from some evil "other" entity.