Weirdly enough, SGI has similar purposes. They grew in Japan, though, before they came over here to America. The only difference is they are evangelic and they do not have tenants incorporating other religious founders. (and as Buddhist, no god). But the politics and social aspects are stricken familiar.
Th current system is built not upon co-existence but on nationalism or racism, communism or a particular religious system.
There is a system. We can call it religion or organization; however, no religion can't be built without it.
We see two process in the world. One of disintegration where old ideas are being challenged and torn down and new ideas rolled out instead. One example is the status of women. This has come to the forefront of all governments and the idea that women are inferior or not equal in status to men is being challenged with the new ideas of equality.
This is an example of the old world being torn down and a new world emerging. It's not visible unless you look for it. Another example is racism. At one time black slaves and racial segregation was acceptable in America and South Africa but that was the old world. Now in the new world being built ideologically, racism is being outlawed everywhere even in sport.
In America, specifically on the East Coast from Virginia give or take into the southern states (to generalize the civil war times) racism is still present and we, myself as a minority, and other minorities can not only see it but feel it.
Here's a good video on how African Americans see ourselves and keeping ourselves minorities at the expense of others. If you are African American, you could probably relate. If not, then it may be hard to especially outside of the US. It's educational nonetheless.
Can you see the twin processes of disintegration of the old order or way we thought on the one hand and the new order coming through?
No. It's still old covered up. I don't know about other countries. United States differ depending on the state. People still discriminate and/or undercover LGBTQ+, women, african americans, non-white men, people with disabilities, class dynamics (homelesses for example), race, among others. I always wondered, "who
are the white people?" But then again, even if white people don't realize it, if they haven't grown up in a detrimentally minority environment most their life, they won't "get it." Native Americans who have not signed treaties with America so they can keep their TLC is very stringent on who, on the outside, can come into the reservations as they view whites (regardless the status or role in the community) being harmful to their communities. I mean, as a minority, one Native American (forgot the tribe) looked at my family and was so happy to see a minority that she flipped.
So no, it's not changing from old to new. Maybe other countries but not here.
Multiculturalism is another phenomenon of the new order. Before we had the Australian white policy. Now its been replaced by multicultural aspirations. You see once again the turning against the old and adopting the new? These are the teachings of Baha'u'llah but people are not aware of it. Yet they themselves not being Baha'is are throwing out what disagrees with what Baha'u'llah taught and introducing His teachings themselves because they like them.
Bahai has good morals. It's fine to have these things. Millions of people do.
Bahaullah has
nothing to do with that. If you don't understand that you are doing what other people are doing-say the Church-by placing someone(s) in a role of interpreting unity and love for others, I don't think you will no matter how many times minorities and religious founders you place into your belief tell you, you are wrong.
It's the people of the world who are taking from Baha'u'llah's teachings and building a new world not us. We are only about 8 million.
That's like saying "it's only SGI that's taking the teachings not the Christianity." The two have nothing to do with each other. One is from Japan the other Jerusalem and Rome.
We can't take from your teachings. That makes no sense whatsoever. How do you take love and unity from another religion. If there are so few of you,
who exactly are taking your definition of love and unity? You placed yourself as the victim. You are not. Number of people doesn't make one the majority or minority in discrimination and cultural appropriation. It just means you're outnumbered.
Each culture can change the way they see women. They make the changes not us. Human Rights organisations pressure governments like Saudi Arabia to give women the vote and allow them to have a drivers license not us. Fifa promotes anti racism views at its venues not us. This is the world wanting to change towards Baha'u'llah's teachings. And the ones it doesn't want it won't change and we can live with that after all it's their world.
I live in America, so I only know from their perspective. We are Christian minded. Christianity has been around for awhile and their teachings of love and unity has been around long before Bahullah and bahai religion was born. What puzzles me is to use their founder in your new religion is a total insult to
their faith. Regardless if a bahai is a christian, ex-christian, or whatever religion, if that person doesn't believe in christ and christ only, that isn't christianity.
The world wants to change Bahaullah's teachings?
America is trying to get away from
Catholic teachings. We split from Britian and this is one of the reasons why we became protest-ants because of it. Historically, someone from Iran logically can't influence anything about Bahaullah's teachings other than to say you are wrong and to be christian. Anything else, just as you, yall will only see life through your own perspectives.
That is not peace and unity.
As I said we are building up,the Baha'i system but it's only for Baha'is. If the time ever comes when humanity prefers our system to theirs then they are welcome but otherwise it's 'live and let live'.
There's no conflict. We do exist side by side. We are not coming to fix you guys.
If the time ever comes when humanity prefers our system to theirs then they are welcome but otherwise it's 'live and let live'.
My overall point exactly. It will not take time unless you are literally telling us only Bahaullah (and the various Bahai) can change our old into your new. We aren't waiting to be Bahai or see through Bahai eyes and you're just waiting.
So to recapitulate. We are not changing or fixing anyone. Your above posts says otherwise. It's the people themselves who have suddenly in this new age turned against racism, want human rights and want equality between men and women, Are you in America? If so, what part? Are you a minority? (not religious minority) Where you raised as a minority? If all these are true, how did they not influence your perspective of what you are saying?
They just happen to be basic Bahá'í principles but it's the people who are adapting them to their own cultures and including them in their own traditions. And they don't seem to feel any conflict. Only those who want to dominate the world don't agree with co existence but most of humanity are happy to live and let live. We don't make any changes. People who want to change do so.
That's a coincidence that some of our teachings and goals are ike yours but the TLC is not and because TLC defines our teachings and goals, we are
not the same.
That is like a white christian telling a black christian they are alike because they share the same beliefs when, depending on where one is from, in my family, black-christianity (cough, wouldn't use the term but case in point) incorporates family practices, superstitions, and other like things. They are also heavy protestants. It's completely different than up north. I mean, I went to a white Southern Baptist Church thinking since it's the same denomination, it would be the same. It isn't. Being white isn't just a race or color of the skin. I mean, some white people call Hispanics black because they have dark skin but culturally black people would have a field day if they heard that.
You
must understand other people's traditions, languages, and culture-their TLC both pun and literal-in order to achieve your goal with the
agreement in scripture and religious practitioners to do so.
The concept of the unity of mankind are words spoken by Baha'u'llah yet we find in the Catholic document called the 'Pontifical Council for Inter religious dialogue' this intriguing statement. religions are adopting how they see it. And that's fine. That's great! The church acknowledges the oneness of mankind and the oneness of religion. We have so much in common. We can be different too but our common humanity is agreed upon universally yet it is not practiced everywhere yet which is why we don't not have peace.
Catholics say the same. SGI Buddhist say the same. All the evangalical religions I know seem to say the same thing. The people who don't are minority religion. Most feel spirituality is between that person and whom or whatever they revere or worship. They also know that each person's peace is different. They just don't want to be minorities.
What is the common humanity and who and what is it based on outside of
our TLC?
28. The mystery of the unity of all mankind
First comes the fact that the whole of humankind forms one family, due to the common origin of all men and women, created by God in his own image. Correspondingly, all are called to a
common destiny, the fullness of life in God. Moreover, there is but one plan of salvation for humankind, with its centre in Jesus Christ, who in his incarnation "has united himself in a
certain manner to every person" (RH 13; cf. GS 22.2). Finally, there needs to be mentioned the active presence of the Holy Spirit in the religious life of the members of the other religious
traditions. From all this the Pope concludes to a "mystery of unity" which was manifested clearly at Assisi, "in spite of the differences between religious professions."(13)
Again, not all religions have god. This is not common humanity, this is god-religion humanity. Your faith incorporates what you say is Buddhism and Hinduism. Buddhism has no creator. Hinduism has many and define them different.
Unless you have no creator or you have multiple, you do not share common humanity with all religions (as your site says). Just a selective few.
First way to build "common reality" is to take out god.
If you cannot, it isn't common reality. You can still fight for good just change your perspective so you won't overstep other people's religions and TLC.
