How can a Muslim woman consider it Honorable to wear the headscarf?

[Rainbow Mage]

Men are required to observe modesty as well. There is Hijab for men. In observing modsesty men a women are less inclined and not as encouraged to focus so much on sex. It is just not in human nature to constantly see the opposite sex in a provacative manner and not think about it. Sex is an intimate affair an Allah asks us to keep it that way. Nothing intrigues people more than sexy ladies and that's why they are used in every form of advertising from radio, to print to television. Women are even asked to keep their speech neutral, to avoid speaking in an overly sexy voice.

What if you're gay and not attracted to the opposite sex? Would you still have to wear a hijab around me? I see plenty of my women friends unveiled and never once made a move

 

[Gaura Priya]

Modest dress for men requires covering from the navel to the knee. May not sound like much but think about a man wearing less and you may see the point.

Meh, I think men should never be shirtless in public... especially athletes. It is a complete distraction from my devotion to God. :drool:

They need to cover their bosoms as much as women do!

 

[Gaura Priya]

What if you're gay and not attracted to the opposite sex? Would you still have to wear a hijab around me? I see plenty of my women friends unveiled and never once made a move

*ahem* it mentions in the Book of men who have no desires to enter into women... *those* men are allowed to be with women.

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to... male attendants who lack vigour..."

-- Qur'an 24:31

 

[Peace]

My hijab is my identity, my honor, dignity and modesty. My hijab is a sign of my submission to the will of Allah.

 

[Gaura Priya]

I have a respectful picture of Muhammad the Prophet on my Facebook profile!

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If i was to ask you to choose between a candy uncovered and a candy all wrapped up nicely, which one will you choose? I guess we know the answer to that.

If someone gives you a gift all nicely wrapped and decently covered, you will Value it over a gift that is handed over to you by someone non-chalant enough not to wrap it, you will naturally assign more value to the gift that was given to you with consideration, respect and its value intact.

So Muslim women don't value Muslim men?

Or is it that Muslim men don't care enough about their women to give them their "gift" with "consideration, respect and its value intact"?

You've given an argument for why people in general should cover themselves; you haven't given an argument for why women should cover themselves but men shouldn't.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I could but it would be dang cold lol [i live in the country lol]

freedom of choice, gatta luv it

when I was a boy and lived in the country we never pulled our curtains.
It was as easy to look in as out.

 

[beenie]

I actually think that all cultures are still influenced by Patriarchy. The focus on women's sexuality in the west also reflects this history. But as a woman, I know exactly how the sight of a good looking man can stimulate sexual desire in me. I think that the clothing that Muslim men are required to wear does little to detract from their appearance. I think they can be very attractive. It doesn't seem fair to me.

By the way, I have nothing against covering the head. What I disapprove of is the idea that a female who does not wear one is somehow less liberated, or just some sex object. Because of my religion I have covered my hair many times. I feel no different with or without this. I certainly don't feel oppressed by my culture. I feel free that I can wear what I want, veil or no veil. I think that this idea that some Muslims have about not wearing the veil is really warped.

i agree with everything you said.

I don't personally think they are less liberated and don't know how many other Muslimahs think that. I may be provide a sense of liberation for some it may make others feel more secure, for others it is a symbol of devotion, others identity and others wear it simply because they find it to be a modest approach to dressing. I wear it for all named reasons. I have never heard of anyone wearing it to provoke any feelings in anyone else.
And speaking for myself, I can not judge how Allah will judge anyone who doesn't. We each have to look closely at our intentions about everything at all times.

i think this sums it up quite nicely.

 

[SLAMH]

*ahem* it mentions in the Book of men who have no desires to enter into women... *those* men are allowed to be with women.

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to... male attendants who lack vigour..."

-- Qur'an 24:31

Well, I don't think this includes gays!!!!. It does talk about ( male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex ).
Reference;
FSE Project | Muslim Sexual Ethics

homosexuality is prohibited in Islam and the punishment for it is the death penalty.

 

[Gaura Priya]

Well, I don't think this includes gays!!!!. It does talk about ( male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex ).
Reference;
FSE Project | Muslim Sexual Ethics

homosexuality is prohibited in Islam and the punishment for it is the death penalty.

It also referred to eunuchs, that is, castrated males, as well as the mukhannathun, which the Prophet Muhammad himself protected!

Then again, I believe in Qur'an alone philosophy over Shari'a Law or hadith...

 

[SLAMH]

You've given an argument for why people in general should cover themselves; you haven't given an argument for why women should cover themselves but men shouldn't.

An Islamic pure text will explain the case as that males and females are different creatures and each has its own structure, role and function in relation to the society. Thus the obligations on them can't be the same in terms of their interaction with the surrounding. However, in terms of their relation with God, both are treated equally.

Take this analogy, women get pregnant and they beget children. No one can come and say why men don't get pregnant and beget just like women, because this completely non-sense. We are just different in creation, so that we can't fit the same functions and roles. By the way, even men are required to cover some parts of their bodies.

Refer to TJ73 comment,

Modest dress for men requires covering from the navel to the knee. May not sound like much but think about a man wearing less and you may see the point.

 

[SLAMH]

Then again, I believe in Qur'an alone philosophy over Shari'a Law or hadith...

aha, that's explains everything.

so may I know what's the Qura'anit's view on the homosexuality ?

just curious.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

An Islamic pure text will explain the case as that males and females are different creatures and each has its own structure, role and function in relation to the society. Thus the obligations on them can't be the same in terms of their interaction with the surrounding. However, in terms of their relation with God, both are treated equally.

Take this analogy, women get pregnant and they beget children. No one can come and say why men don't get pregnant and beget just like women, because this completely non-sense. We are just different in creation, so that we can't fit the same functions and roles.

Covering one's head is not a matter of biological necessity. The mere fact that men and women are different does not mean that any and all double standards based on sex are valid.

Starsoul's explanation for this requirement for women referred to things like love, respect, and virtue. All of these things apply to men.

By the way, even men are required to cover some parts of their bodies.

Refer to TJ73 comment,

Modest dress for men requires covering from the navel to the knee. May not sound like much but think about a man wearing less and you may see the point. Modest dress for men requires covering from the navel to the knee. May not sound like much but think about a man wearing less and you may see the point.

Would you consider a woman to be "modestly dressed" if she was only covered from the navel to the knee?

 

[Gaura Priya]

aha, that's explains everything.

so may I know what's the Qura'anit's view on the homosexuality ?

just curious.

Most say no, few say debatable, and even a very few say yes.

 

[SLAMH]

Covering one's head is not a matter of biological necessity. The mere fact that men and women are different does not mean that any and all double standards based on sex are valid.

The analogy wasn't aimed to explain why women should cover their head, but to show the philosophical justification for this.

Starsoul's explanation for this requirement for women referred to things like love, respect, and virtue. All of these things apply to men.

True, but it is applied and found in different manners. We behave and act differently, still we might encounter same situations but react distinctly. For example, women will spend hours and hours in shops. While, men won't do the same. There are just too many things that we share in life, inspite of we interfere with them uniquely.

Back to your question, nowadays and as I think women are used to show their bodies for the media, advertising and soccer games. They are being used as they are sexual objects, and not human being.

Can you tell, why men are not used for the same purpose ???

Would you consider a woman to be "modestly dressed" if she was only covered from the navel to the knee?

No, I would not.

 

[SLAMH]

Most say no, few say debatable, and even a very few say yes.

So those who say No, do they recognise any kind of punishment for it ?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Hey SLAMH, not to nag, but you'll notice I asked female Muslims to answer questions in this thread. You are a male.

 

[SLAMH]

Hey SLAMH, not to nag, but you'll notice I asked female Muslims to answer questions in this thread. You are a male.

No argument, but did I try to answer your question ?!!!

 

[Rainbow Mage]

homosexuality is prohibited in Islam and the punishment for it is the death penalty.

According to your scholars. You show me where the Quran ever says kill homosexuals, provided they're not open in public. The Quran forbids ANY sexual acts in public.

 

[SageTree]

A friend of mine wears a hijab as a sign of solidarity and belief.
She likens it to a Rasta's dreads, a Sikh's turbaned hair and as a liberal Muslim from NY no one is 'making' her wear it.