How can people maintain sanity by applying shamelessly double standards

[icehorse]

Let's take a side 1967 borders. That's Arab suggest peace.

Why pick the 1967 borders? Why not include parts of Jordan and Egypt and Lebanon and Syria. Didn't "Palestinians" occupy all of those lands for centuries?

But if we do for some unknown reasons pick the 1967 borders, those borders were in place as of 2005 correct? If we take Gaza starting in 2005 as an example, why didn't the Palestinians living in Gaza choose peace with Israel starting in 2005?

It seems to me that a large percentage of Palestinians have never, never wanted a two-state solution.

Because the Palestinian now had two choice to Israel.
Die or leave.

Not true. Palestinians could choose to have Hamas surrender.

 

[icehorse]

Ukraine is defending against an existential threat from a powerful enemy.
Israel isn't.

Wait, what? Israel has a host of powerful enemies, probably top of the list is the Islamic Republic of Iran. The Islamic Republic absolutely wants Israel to be destroyed.

 

[Revoltingest]

Wait, what? Israel has a host of powerful enemies, probably top of the list is the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Israel is at war with Hamas, not Iran.
Hamas poses no existential threat.

The Islamic Republic absolutely wants Israel to be destroyed.

So you say.
But it's taken no action to achieve that.
This despite Israel's urging USA to attack & destroy Iran.

 

[icehorse]

Israel is at war with Hamas, not Iran.
Hamas poses no existential threat.

So you say.
But it's taken no action to achieve that.
This despite Israel's urging USA to attack & destroy Iran.

Who do you think is giving weapons of war to Hamas?

 

[Revoltingest]

Who do you think is giving weapons of war to Hamas?

That is a question that you appear to believe
makes your point for you. It doesn't.
Hamas doesn't have the manpower or weapons
to destroy Israel. This biggest attack ever resulted
in a mere couple thousand deaths & captures...
...until Israel killed 20 times that in retaliation.

 

[stvdv]

This biggest attack ever resulted
in a mere couple thousand deaths & captures.

IF 2 or 3 Americans are killed
THEN it makes Frontpage even in Holland

Thousands death, while rejoicing afterwards
Is quite something to worry about

Problem is the religions over there

Better give these Israeli a part of USA
They have plenty of free space
Saves billions of ammunition

 

[Revoltingest]

IF 2 or 3 Americans are killed
THEN it makes Frontpage even in Holland

Thousands death, while rejoicing afterwards
Is quite something to worry about

Problem is the religions over there

Better give these Israeli a part in USA
They have plenty of free space
Saves billions of ammunition

I've offered NYC.

 

[stvdv]

I've offered NYC.

 

[icehorse]

That is a question that you appear to believe
makes your point for you. It doesn't.
Hamas doesn't have the manpower or weapons
to destroy Israel. This biggest attack ever resulted
in a mere couple thousand deaths & captures...
...until Israel killed 20 times that in retaliation.

You don't think the Islamic Republic has escalated by firing missiles at Israel. You think the Islamic Republic isn't constantly threatening to escalate?

 

[Revoltingest]

You don't think the Islamic Republic has escalated by firing missiles at Israel. You think the Islamic Republic isn't constantly threatening to escalate?

Instead of seeking out reasons to blame Muslims
for all of Israel's woes, consider that if Israel offered
peace & justice to Palestinians, Israel wouldn't create
so many enemies.
Note also that Israel cannot be destroyed, because
it wields the most powerful military on the planet.

 

[BrightShadow]

You don't think the Islamic Republic has escalated by firing missiles at Israel.

One day's barbaric attack could have been dealt with one day's strong response.
Kind of like the cat and mouse chase game - they play with Iran.

You cannot do months of campaign and systematically wipe out over 41,000 people including women and children. Destroy every hospital, every school, every university and everything that is standing.
When you do that - that is attempted genocide of a group of people who follow a different religion.
If the people didn't flee - everyone would have been wiped out.
The intent was clear - no one in their right mind should support this.

Biden supported this - Biden is not in his right mind!

 

[icehorse]

One day's barbaric attack could have been dealt with one day's strong response.

Hamas, Hezbollah and other Islamist terrorist organizations have been attacking Israel for the last 75 years. Yes, 10/7 was just one day, but it was the culmination of decades of attacks.

You cannot do months of campaign and systematically wipe out over 41,000 people including women and children. Destroy every hospital, every school, every university and everything that is standing.

Hamas are immoral cowards. They hide in hospitals and schools and universities. When the IDF enters one of these buildings it is with the intention to find terrorists. You do think that as a general rule we should allow terrorists to hide as a sort of "get out of jail free" strategy?

When you do that - that is attempted genocide of a group of people who follow a different religion.

If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they would have been finished on 10/8 without putting their soldiers in harm's way.

It seems that you are supporting terrorism, do I have that wrong?

 

[Estro Felino]

Hamas, Hezbollah and other Islamist terrorist organizations have been attacking Israel for the last 75 years. Yes, 10/7 was just one day, but it was the culmination of decades of attacks.

The matrix of terrorism is religious fanaticism that has nothing to do with territorial disputes.
It has to do with religious hatred.
And such terrorism has been harming Palestinian nationalism, compromising it.

 

[Viker]

"How can people maintain sanity by applying shamelessly double standards?"

I try my best to be consistent. I question nearly everything. And I try to be critical as possible.

When I see bullies kicking down their victims, and then playing the victims themselves, I get enraged.

I also can't cope with cognitive dissonance. So I analyze my views and surroundings to weed out the inconsistencies. It's an ongoing process and I am in no way perfect or better than anyone.