How comfortable we are but so different?

[Mock Turtle]

As to beliefs, and so often regarding those with seemingly opposing beliefs perhaps being the ones so delusional. But why would we believe such? Can you trace your beliefs back to their origins and justify them?

Please discuss.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

As to beliefs, and so often regarding those with seemingly opposing beliefs perhaps being the ones so delusional. But why would we believe such? Can you trace your beliefs back to their origins and justify them?

Please discuss.

It'd be hard to look back and trace everything. But from the stories I've heard, I act like my parents did in their early 20's, even to some extent when it comes to beliefs, though I'm in my 30's.

I just don't necessarily act much like my parents did later in life, when they tried to raise me.

 

[Spirit of Light]

As to beliefs, and so often regarding those with seemingly opposing beliefs perhaps being the ones so delusional. But why would we believe such? Can you trace your beliefs back to their origins and justify them?

Please discuss.

Justify them? Why should I justify my personal belief to others except toward God?

 

[Truth in love]

It’s not too hard to trace them back.

God sends prophets to teach mankind the right way to live in order to be happy now and to have a great retirement plan. There is a long history of people falling away and God restarting His kingdom.

As for justification. It what God said. I’ve tried it out and am quite satisfied with the results. (Not really sure how much more can be said in this point).

 

[JustGeorge]

I believe cake is delicious.

I don't mean to proselytize, but try it and see!

 

[Sand Dancer]

As to beliefs, and so often regarding those with seemingly opposing beliefs perhaps being the ones so delusional. But why would we believe such? Can you trace your beliefs back to their origins and justify them?

Please discuss.

Some religious beliefs just are what people want to believe. They don't necessarily have to be rooted to anything. IMO...

 

[paradox]

Justify them? Why should I justify my personal belief to others except toward God?

to convert people

 

[Spirit of Light]

to convert people

I have no need for that

 

[Mock Turtle]

Justify them? Why should I justify my personal belief to others except toward God?

No reason. Byeeeeeeeeeeee.

 

[PureX]

I suspect that nearly everyone "justifies" what they believe via their own experiences. We grow up being told that this and that are "true", but I think most of it remains just theory to us until we experience something in life that causes us to conclude that some learned theoretical truth really is true. We don't all get taught the same theoretical truths, though, and we don't all have the same life experiences, of course, so naturally we won't all come to the same conclusions about what is and isn't true in life. But, we can share our ideals and experiences with each other to maybe learn something from each other.

 

[Mock Turtle]

By the way, this OP was just an idle thought and not derived from this one below, which I mostly didn't follow:

Justify your belief??? | Religious Forums

 

[lewisnotmiller]

As to beliefs, and so often regarding those with seemingly opposing beliefs perhaps being the ones so delusional. But why would we believe such? Can you trace your beliefs back to their origins and justify them?

Please discuss.

Some of my beliefs. Not sure whether you were talking about religion or more generally, but my religious beliefs (or non-beliefs) are easier to track.

Other intrinsic beliefs I hold are much harder to track, evaluate, or even be explicitly aware of in some cases.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I suspect that nearly everyone "justifies" what they believe via their own experiences. We grow up being told that this and that are "true", but I think most of it remains just theory to us until we experience something in life that causes us to conclude that some learned theoretical truth really is true. We don't all get taught the same theoretical truths, though, and we don't all have the same life experiences, of course, so naturally we won't all come to the same conclusions about what is and isn't true in life. But, we can share our ideals and experiences with each other to maybe learn something from each other.

As an adult reflecting back, a lot of what I was taught when young served as placeholders more than anything, to be replaced as I experienced life.

Whether I understood these placeholders fully, whether I've interpreted my experiences in a valid fashion, and whether I've had enough experience to make reasonable assessments is a fair question of course.

 

[PureX]

As an adult reflecting back, a lot of what I was taught when young served as placeholders more than anything, to be replaced as I experienced life.

Whether I understood these placeholders fully, whether I've interpreted my experiences in a valid fashion, and whether I've had enough experience to make reasonable assessments is a fair question of course.

Yes, one of the problems with these "truth" placeholders is that they tend to define our experiences for us, just by their presence. We "see" what we expect to be there, and we don't "see" what we aren't looking for. Those placeholders become our expectations, which then govern how we interpret reality. Which is why it's wise to always remain skeptical of whatever we perceive as "the truth".

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

As to beliefs, and so often regarding those with seemingly opposing beliefs perhaps being the ones so delusional. But why would we believe such? Can you trace your beliefs back to their origins and justify them?

Please discuss.

If very different belief systems agree closely with reality and both have good predictive value, then this is a sign that the difference between their beliefs:

- isn't tested often, if at all.
- adds no value to the belief system (in terms of how closely the belief system aligns with reality)

IMO, many theists realize this, which is why they push back so hard against the idea that functional, happy atheists exist.