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How Corrupt Cops Create Danger

ADigitalArtist

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What is the name of the forum I posted this thread in?
That determines the context of language & issues.

It matters not that libertarianism originated in England
or anywhere else. The term means what it means in
this context, especially in light of the platforms of both
the eponymous Canuckistanian & USA parties.

I'm not trying to upset you. But "silly" & "warped" would
describe the obsession with etymology of a word while
ignoring the meaning in the context.
Hi I'm an American in a forum about American politics and still recognizes that American politics is severely warped to misinterpreting non-left ideology in polisci as left, due to ratcheting tactics by the right to frame non-left agendas (eg socialized medicine, free education) as extremist positions. Framing things as extremist positions is very useful for moralist center powers which are overzealous on not taking such extremes.

Knowing a broader context let's you know American politics better, not worse. And the forum being about American political issues does not exclude global examples of addressing the issue thus country is having.

Besides, you were happy to talk about global examples when you thought it vilified the left's track record of civil liberties. Perhaps it might also help to look at countries like Japan, where left collectivism has produced a police force which is not paramilitarized or have legal exemptions to law breaking.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Hi I'm an American in a forum about American politics and still recognizes that American politics is severely warped to misinterpreting non-left ideology in polisci as left, due to ratcheting tactics by the right to frame non-left agendas (eg socialized medicine, free education) as extremist positions. Framing things as extremist positions is very useful for moralist center powers which are overzealous on not taking such extremes.

Knowing a broader context let's you know American politics better, not worse. And the forum being about American political issues does not exclude global examples of addressing the issue thus country is having.

Besides, you were happy to talk about global examples when you thought it vilified the left's track record of civil liberties. Perhaps it might also help to look at countries like Japan, where left collectivism has produced a police force which is not paramilitarized or have legal exemptions to law breaking.
I've nothing to add.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In the news....
Family asks: What happened inside Sacramento jail to leave woman in a catatonic state?

Isn't it odd how cops have no idea how a mentally ill but
healthy woman suffered broken ribs, catatonia, & other
ills while in their custody. It just happened, eh...something
out of the blue....no one caused it.

Excerpted....
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — On July 6, a three-car accident at the 65th Street Expressway and Lemon Hill Road in Sacramento left three people injured, and started a nightmare for the family of Mishila Vickers.

Vickers, 29, was hurt in the crash and hospitalized for about a month, her family says, and three weeks after the crash she was charged with reckless driving.

But Vickers has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, her brother Ryan says, and her illness led her to miss a court date, which led to her arrest in December and landed her in isolation inside the Sacramento County Main Jail despite having no previous criminal record.

Today, Ryan Vickers says, his younger sister is at UC Davis Medical Center in a catatonic state, diagnosed with COVID-19 and has multiple broken ribs. She’s being administered medicine and nourishment through a tube in her nose.

And no one has been able to explain what happened to her, Vickers says.

“I believe something happened inside the jail, something that they are trying to cover up,” said Ryan Vickers, a 31-year-old welder. “I don’t know if it was staff. I don’t know if it was another inmate.

“She didn’t go to the jail with broken ribs, but she left out with broken ribs.”

Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Sgt. Rodney Grassmann declined to comment on what happened to Vickers, referring questions to Sacramento County’s correctional health spokeswoman, Samantha Mott, who cited privacy issues in declining to explain what happened to the inmate.

“We can confirm Mishila Vickers was in custody from December 3, 2021, to February 3, 2022,” Mott wrote in an email. “Any health care an inmate may or may not receive while in custody is protected under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) and cannot be released without signed patient authorization or a court order.”

Mishila Vickers’ mental state appears to have complicated the handling of the case. Her brother says the family tried to bail her out following her arrest, but that sheriff’s officials told them she was not eligible because she was on a so-called 5150 hold used to temporarily detain suspects for psychiatric testing.

Vickers spent her 29th birthday and Christmas in the jail, and her family has been unable to see her since her arrest, her brother said.

Sacramento Superior Court records show that a month after her arrest a judge ordered her mental state evaluated and set a March 3 hearing for doctors to submit their reports.

Guy Danilowitz, the public defender originally assigned to her case, told The Sacramento Bee that he declared a doubt about her mental condition on Jan. 6 after a disturbing visit to her in the jail.

“When I see her on Jan. 4 she’s not doing well, naked, mumbling to herself,” Danilowitz said. “The windows are covered because they say she’s throwing stuff.”


Last week, Danilowitz said, he got a call from sheriff’s officials saying Vickers had been found unresponsive in her cell and taken to UC Davis, where she tested positive for COVID-19 and where routine X-rays showed multiple broken ribs.

“They wanted me to stipulate to her release because they don’t want her on their hands,” Danilowitz said. “That’s what they’re literally telling me, they don’t want to be responsible.”

Danilowitz was relieved from the case last Thursday after the family hired a private attorney, and jail records show she was released from custody the same day.

But she remains hospitalized, and her brother says the family has not been allowed to see her or get answers to what happened to her inside the jail.

“My thought was possibly due to her being resuscitated from her being found in jail that maybe she broke some ribs there,” Vickers said. “That wasn’t the case. The doctor called us and informed us that she was found with a pulse, she was found breathing, so CPR likely wasn’t administered.

“So, the broken ribs came from another cause, and we’re trying to find out what that was. She was in isolation. She was by herself. She was in perfect health. And now the doctors are saying that she’s catatonic, she’s not responding to verbal commands. She’s pretty much just staring out into space.”

On Monday, Vickers said the hospital called him to say doctors wanted to move his sister out of the ICU and conduct tests to investigate “spots on her brain” they had found, he said.

But Vickers said his sister had undergone an MRI after the car accident last summer and checked out fine.

“Now we’re getting ‘spots on the brain,’” he said. “Directly from her leaving the jail and going to the hospital?”
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Group of civilians create sting operation to catch
sex offenders. Successful hunt...they reel in a cop.
who's a hebophile / ephebophile.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops regularly get away with body cam mischief.
They turn them off, fail to wear them, & will hide
the recordings from the public.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops have a culture of being above the law, even
when off duty. This particularly includes flouting
traffic laws, eg, drunk driving, speeding, running
stop signs.
Sometimes they kill civilians....
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Detroit cops again.
Wrongful pursuit with no lights kills & injures people.
Why leave lights off?
They believed they wouldn't be recorded.
They also turned off their body cams, trying
to conceal what they were doing.

Cops with a record of much illegal activity
in Detroit...are they disciplined or fired?
Nah. They stay on the job.
But don't worry...the cops said they'd be
investigating themselves.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This is an interesting case wherein the cops
fabricate claims against an innocent man,
taze, assault, & arrest him in front of his kids.
Then the cops falsify their report.
The man is later found not guilty of all charges,
& he files suit against the cops. They of course
claim qualified immunity for their right to fabricate
a case, & arrest a man they knew was innocent.
Look at the number of cops involved, including
their department...all are crooked cops. This
shows the massive extent of the problem.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The danger corrupt cops pose isn't just physical.
False arrests & accusations can severely damage
finances, careers, & families.
Fake DUI charges are extremely common.
They offer an income stream to departments.
This kind of corruption pervades entire departments.
There are no good cops in these jurisdictions.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Too many cops refuse to vaccinate or wear
masks during a pandemic. They pose a
danger to people they arrest. It's a particularly
needless danger when it's false arrest & abuse.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In some jurisdictions, no actions are ever taken
against cops who assault or rob civilians.
Prosecutors are often in cahoots with cops
in covering up crimes.
 

averageJOE

zombie
There are NO words to describe the actions of these cops. The only words that come to my mind are "sadistic", "sociopathic", "evil". Of course their department is defending their actions as "within policy". These are the type of people who are becoming cops. These are the type of people the job attracts. These are not just the "few bad apples", this is the culture. Only two things happen to "Good cops", they either quit or succumb to the culture.
WATCH:
Tulsa Police Officers Taunt Elderly Woman With Bipolar Disorder Before Violently Arresting Her
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Just walking along a street, doing nothing illegal,
nothing suspicious, & having no warrants can get
one assaulted from behind by a stupid violent cop
who attacks without warning, breaking bones, &
arresting one.
The victim's mistake? He was cooperative in
answering questions & providing ID when not
legally required.
The victim filed a $700k suit. Cops didn't apologize.
No cops were investigated or disciplined. The city
settled for $350k. Qualified immunity must go.
**** these violent cops who injure innocent people,
& cost taxpayers a fortune.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This cop shines his spotlight into an oncoming car.
Then he U-turns, & stops the car for speeding.
The dashcam shows he wasn't speeding.
It's a bogus stop, but shining a bright light into
a driver's eyes is dangerous & criminal.

As always, this channel provides full legal analysis.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops very often drive drunk. They expect "courtesy"
from fellow cops if caught. And as we see in this
video, they get it. The law doesn't apply to them.
 
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