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How did the Egyptians build the pyramids?

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Exactly!!

Then using my models I can make accurate predictions about what still exists at Giza. I have made several predictions would simply be impossible without knowing how the pyramids were built.
Nigel Tufnut made some predictions as I remember too, but I didn't understand them, any chance of translating yours to something that we can observe with the logic behind them rather than post facto observations?
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
I also don’t overestimate human practicality, especially those living in times without the wheel.

Indeed!

Their linear funiculars needed no wheels because the step sides were so steep there was very little friction. They used a device called a "dm-sceptre" to lower the friction at the corners.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Simple examples would be helpful.



Wouldn’t both undergo similar chemical weathering?


Natural limestone is a naturally occurring sedimentary rock primarily composed of calcium carbonate, while concrete is a man-made material made from a mixture of cement, aggregate (like sand and gravel), and water, meaning limestone has a unique, organic appearance with natural variations in color and texture, while concrete is more uniform and can be molded into various shapes, but may appear less aesthetically pleasing over time; limestone is generally considered more durable and resistant to weathering, though it can be susceptible to acidic substances, whereas concrete can crack or deteriorate if not properly installed or exposed to extreme conditions.


Key differences:
  • Origin:
    Limestone is a naturally occurring rock, while concrete is a manufactured material.


  • Appearance:
    Limestone has a unique, natural appearance with variations in color and texture, while concrete has a more uniform look depending on the finishing techniques used.


  • Composition:
    Limestone is primarily made of calcium carbonate, while concrete is composed of cement, aggregate, and water.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member

Natural limestone is a naturally occurring sedimentary rock primarily composed of calcium carbonate, while concrete is a man-made material made from a mixture of cement, aggregate (like sand and gravel), and water, meaning limestone has a unique, organic appearance with natural variations in color and texture, while concrete is more uniform and can be molded into various shapes, but may appear less aesthetically pleasing over time; limestone is generally considered more durable and resistant to weathering, though it can be susceptible to acidic substances, whereas concrete can crack or deteriorate if not properly installed or exposed to extreme conditions.


Key differences:
  • Origin:
    Limestone is a naturally occurring rock, while concrete is a manufactured material.


  • Appearance:
    Limestone has a unique, natural appearance with variations in color and texture, while concrete has a more uniform look depending on the finishing techniques used.


  • Composition:
    Limestone is primarily made of calcium carbonate, while concrete is composed of cement, aggregate, and water.

You keep referring to concrete.

I am talking about reconstituted limestone.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Reconstituted limestone is not concrete.
What is described as reconstituted limestone as the result of a slurry mix used in the pyramids fits the definition of concrete, when ground up the finished product contains sand, and gravel limestones does not.

I can tell the difference just based visual appearance, Limestone does not have a granular appearance caused by the mix used to make concrete,

Limestone has a smooth texture, because it is deposited in oceans and seas without sediment. It does most often contains fossils of corals, and other organisms from the sea,
 
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cladking

Well-Known Member
...any chance of translating yours to something that we can observe with the logic behind them rather than post facto observations?

Anybody using my methodology could arrive at the "same" place I am. I can easily support all my definitions for every term but you still won't be able to "read" Ancient Language because it can never be translated. It is formatted differently.

They did say that "seker tows the earth by means of balance" in describing how the pyramids were built and that "tefnut makes the earth high under the sky by means of her arms". You have to solve terms in context simultaneously with reverse engineering the pyramids to know that "seker" isn't a god but rather the quantity of water to move a sled loaded with about 12 tons of stone. "Tefnut" isn't a goddess but the downward movement of the side of the funicular loaded with water. It is always this. That's how I solved it. "Tefnut" is always downward so that's what the word represents; downward.

What does Egyptology have except endless assumptions? I have facts, physical evidence, logic, and centuries of science and history supporting me. But much more importantly I keep making accurate predictions based on my models derived from scientific methodology and they have incredibly horrendous methodology.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
What is described as reconstituted limestone as the result of a slurry mix used in the pyramids fits the definition of concrete, when ground up the finished product contains sand, and gravel limestones does not.

Described by who? Source?

I can tell the difference just based visual appearance, Limestone does not have a granular appearance caused by the mix used to make concrete,

For arguments sake, what would be the difference between natural and reconstituted limestone?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
saYou keep referring to concrete.

I am talking about reconstituted limestone.
Reconstituted orange juice is demonstrably different than fresh squezed , like wise the the humanly recreated equivalent of limestone made out of crushed limestone while consisting of basically the same ingredients that we call concrete or limestone is differentiable from natural limestone. Concrete made out of substances other than limestone is even more obviously different.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
What is described as reconstituted limestone as the result of a slurry mix used in the pyramids fits the definition of concrete, when ground up the finished product contains sand, and gravel limestones does not.

I can tell the difference just based visual appearance, Limestone does not have a granular appearance caused by the mix used to make concrete,

Limestone has a smooth texture, because it is deposited in oceans and seas without sediment. It does most often contains fossils of corals, and other organisms from the sea,

You are not engaging with what I am saying.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
Reconstituted orange juice is demonstrably different than fresh squezed , like wise the the humanly recreated equivalent of limestone made out of crushed limestone while consisting of basically the same ingredients that we call concrete or limestone is differentiable from natural limestone. Concrete made out of substances other than limestone is even more obviously different.

First of all, concrete and cement are completely different. Concrete is the mixing of sand and cement, which is very important. Cement contains limestone and clay.

Secondly, reconstituted limestone contains cement, LIME, and limestone.

ZERO concrete!

Lime is CaO, a completely different chemical to limestone, but derived directly from it. So most of reconstituted limestone is actually limestone, with a component of lime and clay.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Anybody using my methodology could arrive at the "same" place I am. I can easily support all my definitions for every term but you still won't be able to "read" Ancient Language because it can never be translated. It is formatted differently.
Yes we have been here many times before, we can understand your position if we agree with it before hand, but that is useless to those who don't and you have been incapable of communicating your position to anyone else due to either it's simplicity according to you or your inability to communicate this ancient language or even it's existence.

Other than just talking to the great beyond, why are you here?
They did say that "seker tows the earth by means of balance" in describing how the pyramids were built and that "tefnut makes the earth high under the sky by means of her arms". You have to solve terms in context simultaneously with reverse engineering the pyramids to know that "seker" isn't a god but rather the quantity of water to move a sled loaded with about 12 tons of stone. "Tefnut" isn't a goddess but the downward movement of the side of the funicular loaded with water. It is always this. That's how I solved it. "Tefnut" is always downward so that's what the word represents; downward.

What does Egyptology have except endless assumptions? I have facts, physical evidence, logic, and centuries of science and history supporting me. But much more importantly I keep making accurate predictions based on my models derived from scientific methodology and they have incredibly horrendous methodology.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Reconstituted limestone is not concrete.
In terms of what is used in the pyramids it is concrete. You CANNOT reconstitute the original tectureless features of limestone when you grind up the limestone to make a slurry mix, The result will have a granular surface, Limestone DOES NOT have a granular surface.

Your truing to argue with a geologist with over 50 years experience, and I gave references,
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
First of all, concrete and cement are completely different. Concrete is the mixing of sand and cement, which is very important. Cement contains limestone and clay.

Secondly, reconstituted limestone contains cement, LIME, and limestone.

ZERO concrete!

Lime is CaO, a completely different chemical to limestone. So most of reconstituted limestone is actually limestone, with a component of lime and clay.
Well then, how do you reconstitute limestone such that it has not gone through the processes that it went through to form in the first place.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
First of all, concrete and cement are completely different. Concrete is the mixing of sand and cement, which is very important. Cement contains limestone and clay.

Secondly, reconstituted limestone contains cement, LIME, and limestone.

ZERO concrete!

Lime is CaO, a completely different chemical to limestone, but derived directly from it. So most of reconstituted limestone is actually limestone, with a component of lime and clay.
Cement also has a granular surface like sidewalks and joints in brick walls., limestone does not. Limestone does not contain clay. If you have clay and natural Calcium carbonate you have shale,
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
Well then, how do you reconstitute limestone such that it has not gone through the processes that it went through to form in the first place.

The process is simple.

Crush the limestone, mix with cement (which is limestone and clay) and water, and then cast into a mould.

If using a copper mould, a “natural” granular appearance could come through given it is a soft metal.
 

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
In terms of what is used in the pyramids it is concrete. You CANNOT reconstitute the original tectureless features of limestone when you grind up the limestone to make a slurry mix, The result will have a granular surface, Limestone DOES NOT have a granular surface.

Your truing to argue with a geologist with over 50 years experience, and I gave references,

You are not an engineer, which is the expertise required to understand construction materials.
 
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