How does everybody like the new look?

[SalixIncendium]

I hope it's a work in progress because I'm like some oversight / clarity atm.
As it stands, it doesn't feel like an improvement to me.

It may or may not. The update was less for aesthetic purposes and more for stability and longevity of the forum. The previous version was 10 years old and there were issues with plug-in support, stability, unrepairable bugs, etc. It was either update or shut down. The owners opted for the former.

 

[SalixIncendium]

No. It is a common way but for it to be "the nature" there can't be an alternative way. It was a conscious decision to do it this way. (Or ignorance of other options.)

How did you do it when you updated the software on your high traffic Internet forum?

 

[Secret Chief]

It would if I was in charge.

I'm guessing the alert would just disappear.

A message comes up that reads "On second thoughts, I hate you and all that you stand for."

 

[Secret Chief]

I hope it's a work in progress because I'm like some oversight / clarity atm.
As it stands, it doesn't feel like an improvement to me.

The alternative was forum death.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I'd have preferred the forum was worked on in the background or rolled back after the bugs had been found. Unlike real construction work, there are a dozen options to do it without the users having to live in a work area.

There was no way to roll it back, since the older software was not only broken but also irreparable in multiple ways. One example of this was the search function: it had been broken for months and was an identified issue, but the software simply made it impossible to completely fix.

Working on the update in the background also wasn't a real option because a lot of technical and UI elements need to be implemented before they can be optimized or tweaked. Take the email verification issue as an example: without deploying the new software, the owners couldn't even start working on a solution, because a solution was largely tied to better spambot control that the old software didn't and couldn't have.

 

[Revoltingest]

It would if I was in charge.

I'm guessing the alert would just disappear.

I need some new frubals.....
<mildly amused>
<retching>
<bacontastic>

 

[exchemist]

New possible bug: I have found that my most recent post does not show up in "Your Content". Post was no. 329 in this thread:
Is the Bible Allegorical or Literal? . This was posted today at 0937.

The most recent one in "Your Content" is post 400 from the present thread, which I posted yesterday.

 

[SalixIncendium]

New possible bug: I have found that my most recent post does not show up in "Your Content". Post was no. 329 in this thread:
Is the Bible Allegorical or Literal? . This was posted today at 0937.

The most recent one in "Your Content" is post 400 from the present thread, which I posted yesterday.

Thanks for the heads up. I went ahead and reported this.

 

[Heyo]

How did you do it when you updated the software on your high traffic Internet forum?

Never had to fix a high traffic internet forum, only an Internet shop (b2b).
We had a complete sandbox copy of everything to work on. When it worked in the sandbox, we'd test it on the real data. If that was successful, we'd kick out all users (in the middle of the night), make a complete backup, implement the changes, start a transaction trace and go life. If something went terribly wrong, we could roll back the UI, load the DB backup, run the new transactions and wouldn't have lost anything.

 

[Heyo]

There was no way to roll it back, since the older software was not only broken but also irreparable in multiple ways. One example of this was the search function: it had been broken for months and was an identified issue, but the software simply made it impossible to completely fix.

Working on the update in the background also wasn't a real option because a lot of technical and UI elements need to be implemented before they can be optimized or tweaked. Take the email verification issue as an example: without deploying the new software, the owners couldn't even start working on a solution, because a solution was largely tied to better spambot control that the old software didn't and couldn't have.

Sounds like terrible spaghetti code to me. Everything integrated, nothing modular?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Never had to fix a high traffic internet forum, only an Internet shop (b2b).
We had a complete sandbox copy of everything to work on. When it worked in the sandbox, we'd test it on the real data. If that was successful, we'd kick out all users (in the middle of the night), make a complete backup, implement the changes, start a transaction trace and go life. If something went terribly wrong, we could roll back the UI, load the DB backup, run the new transactions and wouldn't have lost anything.

How do you know that this isn't the process that was followed aside from making assumptions.

I also see nothing with the update that went "terribly wrong."

 

[Eddi]

Another thing I have noticed is that when using RF on my phone it keeps me logged in way way more than it did before the recent overhaul indeed it hasn't yet logged me out!

 

[Debater Slayer]

Sounds like terrible spaghetti code to me. Everything integrated, nothing modular?

The old software was pretty terrible because of how outdated it had gotten, yes. That said, I don't know enough about the backend side of XenForo to know how modular this version is.

 

[JustGeorge]

Another thing I have noticed is that when using RF on my phone it keeps me logged in way way more than it did before the recent overhaul indeed it hasn't yet logged me out!

I noticed that, too. I'm on PC, though. I don't think its logged me out for days, even when I'm inactive for many hours(like when I'm sleeping).

 

[pearl]

Is there a way to see newly created threads? Not necessarily every new post on every old thread, but just the new threads?

Kinda like the old set up had the ten newest threads created on the side of the screen....

This is the feature I miss the most.

 

[Heyo]

I noticed that, too. I'm on PC, though. I don't think its logged me out for days, even when I'm inactive for many hours(like when I'm sleeping).

Neither did it in the old version. My guess is that "keep me logged in" is now the default while you had to click it in the old version. (That's also on PC/Laptop. I rarely use my phone.)

 

[Debater Slayer]

I hope it's a work in progress because I'm like some oversight / clarity atm.
As it stands, it doesn't feel like an improvement to me.

It is indeed a work in progress. The owners are working on implementing some highly requested changes and features as we speak, such as bringing back the "New Threads" list.

 

[JustGeorge]

Neither did it in the old version. My guess is that "keep me logged in" is now the default while you had to click it in the old version. (That's also on PC/Laptop. I rarely use my phone.)

Mine would log me out previously if I was inactive for more than a few hours.

 

[The Hammer]

I still can't get past the no new thread widget...

Now I don't know what to do with my time.

Same. That widget was one of the main ways I kept up with forum happenings. I'm not pleased at it's disappearance.

Also means new threads aren't gaining as much traction as they used to.

 

[Debater Slayer]

This is the feature I miss the most.

Same. That widget was one of the main ways I kept up with forum happenings. I'm not pleased at it's disappearance.

Also means new threads aren't gaining as much traction as they used to.

The owners are working on it. They're aware it's a priority due to how highly requested it is.