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How does god get jeleous?

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Because God has no equal
Then there's nothing to be jealous of. God's not a 4 year old.

Thank you.. I guess my full point is how can god do and experience really anything. Its like saying "the spirits [that I believe in] are jogging to the store and they got tired on the way there."
Well, I would imagine it's a bit like asking if an AI can be jealous. It won't be the exact same mechanism as they are artificial, but I would think that whatever their equivalent is would count as the emotion. In The Sims, Sims can get jealous of one another. They lack the neurons, the hormones, or whatever to have the emotion like we do, but their personalities are driven by computer rules that have jealousy as an option, so ...
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Yes. Before I had a profound experience I had not yet had any personal interaction with the god.

That still puzzles me (and probably always will). Is your personal action like how I have a personal interaction by what I do for the spirits and what they do for me in return?

I get the impression from mainstream god-believers (any abrahamic) that god is an entity or spirit rather than experience hence the ability to interact. Can experiences really interact with someone or is that a metaphor or the best way to explain how god communicates in you? (for lack of better words

Do you mean personalize? My vision of God is not of the Bible. I might agree with some posters here that other holy texts speak of the same God. I do not know other holy texts so I can't say. The Bible is a help, but not a complete picture.

That puts a spin on mainstream interpretation and how you express your faith,.

It sounds like you are split. "They are real" but the only way they are real is in your imagination.
It is possible the God I believe is in my imagination only but if I had to bet I would say God is before me, not of me.

They are real outside my imagination. Think of people mediums in different faiths from Vodou to, I dont know, Spiritalist. They all share something in common with the deceased spirits and ancestors as well as family members speaking through that one person --in body not just in mind-- same thing.

Its not the stereotypic screaming and moving about as if the spirits are somehow attacking me. All my actions throughout my day etc are in honor to them. Im a creative writer and artist. Using my imagination as the source of my spiritual life (devoting myself to characters in anovel for example), is very strange to me. Maybe others do it. I do not.

I dont know if god or the spirits can work through ones imagination to present themselves unless that is how they are communicating rather than an self-created god. As far as "before", I wouldnt be here if my family wasnt here before me, and so forth.

It makes logical sense in my view, of course; but is god the same way? If he is an experience, how can he be before you unless reincarnation?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That still puzzles me (and probably always will). Is your personal action like how I have a personal interaction by what I do for the spirits and what they do for me in return?
I begged God to explain what was happening and I let my mind be open to any possibility. Now it seems I have a channel that connects me to the answers. The first time it was VERY emotional. Now it isn't.

I get the impression from mainstream god-believers (any abrahamic) that god is an entity or spirit rather than experience hence the ability to interact. Can experiences really interact with someone or is that a metaphor or the best way to explain how god communicates in you? (for lack of better words
Yes, I believe God is a spirit with abilities to interact. Might I be wrong? Yes.
People say that physical is needed for the spirit. I do not believe that. Spirit first, then physical. I think the mind is like a house that is built. Built for what? For thinking. Can you see how in my setting a brain is not necessary for thought? It is just a place for it to dwell. Brain matter certainly makes life a whole lot more interesting. Don't you think?


If he is an experience, how can he be before you unless reincarnation?
I don't believe in people spirits. It is my opinion that the only people who can dwell as spirits with thought and emotions are the people who are born again in the one called "Jesus". I have to admit I don't think I would have come up with that scenario had it not been for the people who wrote the Bible.
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
Then there's nothing to be jealous of. God's not a 4 year old.


Well, I would imagine it's a bit like asking if an AI can be jealous. It won't be the exact same mechanism as they are artificial, but I would think that whatever their equivalent is would count as the emotion. In The Sims, Sims can get jealous of one another. They lack the neurons, the hormones, or whatever to have the emotion like we do, but their personalities are driven by computer rules that have jealousy as an option, so ...

Again -not jealous OF -jealous FOR -just as you would be jealous FOR a loved one you knew was in a harmful relationship or situation -who was being lied to, led astray, given false information, etc... not OF any who might put them in such a situation.

The definition of the word which should be applied there is technically "zealous" ( a zeal to correct a situation) -though it can also be used in a bad sense -petty jealousy, etc...

H7065
קנא
qânâ'
kaw-naw'
A primitive root; to be (causatively make) zealous, that is, (in a bad sense) jealous or envious: - (be) envy (-ious), be (move to, provoke to) jealous (-y), X very, (be) zeal (-ous).

Actually, the same word is elsewhere translated "zealous"....
Num 25:12 Wherefore say, Behold, I give unto him my covenant of peace:
Num 25:13 And he shall have it, and his seed after him, even the covenant of an everlasting priesthood; because he was zealous for his God, and made an atonement for the children of Israel.

Though God -in his zeal to correct the situation -has ended the lives of individuals, even that will be for their ultimate benefit -as they will be raised again to a different situation which was actually made possible partly by their removal. That is not to say God made a mistake that must be corrected, but that this period of imperfection is a necessary part of the process which brings us all to perfection.

Things such as the following should be understood in that context....
Num 25:9 And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand.
Num 25:10 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Num 25:11 Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, hath turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, while he was zealous for my sake among them, that I consumed not the children of Israel in my jealousy.
("jealousy" above is from the root word translated "zealous")

Even those twenty-four thousand will eventually benefit from his "jealousy".

Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
Eze 37:13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
Eze 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
 
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