How I deal with no afterlife

[ENTP Logician]

@MattMVS7

Well, in my belief system our core is spirit that is blissful and eternal and this spirit is the core of all living beings. Hence, we have the innate drive to both survive and be happy as this is our true nature. That is what drives all sentient beings. An afterlife wish is part of the survival and happiness drive that you are talking about.

As you know I objectively believe in the afterlife from the paranormal evidence.

Where is the objective evidence?

 

[George-ananda]

Where is the objective evidence?

Oh, my fault for not making it clearer. Click on the word 'Evidence' in my post.

 

[ENTP Logician]

Oh, my fault for not making it clearer. Click on the word 'Evidence' in my post.

I did.

I found no evidence.

 

[George-ananda]

I did.

I found no evidence.

Ah, carry on then.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

As you know I objectively believe in the afterlife from the paranormal [URL='http://www.victorzammit.com/book/4thedition/index.html']evidence[/URL].

:D Really, dude?

 

[George-ananda]

:D Really, dude?

Absolutely

 

[sayak83]

If I am special and have value as a human being, that creates a major conflict for me. This conflict would be that for such a special and valuable person as myself to just forever rot and decay away would be the greatest insult to my value and specialness as a human being.

It would be utterly demeaning of my value and specialness. It would be just tossing me away like trash. So in order to resolve this conflict, I would have to deem myself as nothing special at all and of no value. However, if I am immortal and do get to live forever in heaven, then there would be no conflict.

So, in short, if there is a heaven for me to live forever in, then I would deem myself as valuable and special since that conflict would not exist. But if there is no afterlife, then I would just view myself as a piece of **** who might as well just die anyway.

This would also apply to the relationship I have with my own family and how I view other human beings.

Duration of existence has no relationship to value as far as I can see.

 

[YmirGF]

If I am special and have value as a human being, that creates a major conflict for me. This conflict would be that for such a special and valuable person as myself to just forever rot and decay away would be the greatest insult to my value and specialness as a human being.

Oddly, I approach this quite differently. I have a chance to make life better for myself and others around me. I know one day I will no longer be here to effect that change and that makes each moment all the more special because life is fleeting.

It would be utterly demeaning of my value and specialness. It would be just tossing me away like trash. So in order to resolve this conflict, I would have to deem myself as nothing special at all and of no value. However, if I am immortal and do get to live forever in heaven, then there would be no conflict.

The sad reality is that you are no more special than everyone else. You are, at the same time, no less special. Immortality has no bearing on this as you would still be in the same boat as everyone else.

So, in short, if there is a heaven for me to live forever in, then I would deem myself as valuable and special since that conflict would not exist. But if there is no afterlife, then I would just view myself as a piece of **** who might as well just die anyway.

Negative think much? I'm a strong atheist who doesn't give a damn if there is a hell or a heaven, though I am confident that neither is an existential reality. I simply fail to grasp the validity of your crisis.

This would also apply to the relationship I have with my own family and how I view other human beings.

Attitude is king.

 

[buddhist]

If I am special and have value as a human being, that creates a major conflict for me. This conflict would be that for such a special and valuable person as myself to just forever rot and decay away would be the greatest insult to my value and specialness as a human being.

It would be utterly demeaning of my value and specialness. It would be just tossing me away like trash. So in order to resolve this conflict, I would have to deem myself as nothing special at all and of no value. However, if I am immortal and do get to live forever in heaven, then there would be no conflict.

So, in short, if there is a heaven for me to live forever in, then I would deem myself as valuable and special since that conflict would not exist. But if there is no afterlife, then I would just view myself as a piece of **** who might as well just die anyway.

This would also apply to the relationship I have with my own family and how I view other human beings.

Unless there is rebirth or reincarnation.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Click on the word 'Evidence' in my post.

Lawyers have the habit of creating evidence where none exists. I am not surprised.

 

[George-ananda]

Lawyers have the habit of creating evidence where none exists. I am not surprised.

Oh please, provide at least a substantive argument.

 

[The Transcended Omniverse]

Oddly, I approach this quite differently. I have a chance to make life better for myself and others around me. I know one day I will no longer be here to effect that change and that makes each moment all the more special because life is fleeting.

The sad reality is that you are no more special than everyone else. You are, at the same time, no less special. Immortality has no bearing on this as you would still be in the same boat as everyone else.

Negative think much? I'm a strong atheist who doesn't give a damn if there is a hell or a heaven, though I am confident that neither is an existential reality. I simply fail to grasp the validity of your crisis.

Attitude is king.

I don't view myself as more special than anyone else. But continuing on here. Most of us as human beings have an innate desire to continue surviving and to be happy (eternal bliss). It is the reason why so many people wish to believe in an eternal blissful afterlife and don't wish to die.

Most of us as human beings are simply hardwired for that which is the reason why it is the #1 thing in life. Our brains perceive our survival and happiness as the #1 thing since that is the natural way our brains work. So that is why the existence of an eternal blissful afterlife is so important to me.

If it doesn't exist, then I wish to deem this life as meaningless to me and not worth my time. I would be so glad to completely destroy all the value this one and only life can have. I would be so glad to just rid of this life.

Also, thank you for trying to give helpful advice anyway. But thinking of myself as special and valuable always creates that conflict I mentioned. There is no way past that conflict.

Whenever I think of myself as special and valuable, that causes me absolute rage since it is the worst insult to that value and specialness to have me just forever thrown and decayed away. It just doesn't work for me.

So, like I said, the only way for me to remove that conflict would be to deem myself as nothing special and nothing valuable at all.

 

[Quiddity]

I don't view myself as more special than anyone else. But continuing on here. Most of us as human beings have an innate desire to continue surviving and to be happy (eternal bliss). It is the reason why so many people wish to believe in an eternal blissful afterlife and don't wish to die.

Most of us as human beings are simply hardwired for that which is the reason why it is the #1 thing in life. Our brains perceive our survival and happiness as the #1 thing since that is the natural way our brains work. So that is why the existence of an eternal blissful afterlife is so important to me.

If it doesn't exist, then I wish to deem this life as meaningless to me and not worth my time. I would be so glad to completely destroy all the value this one and only life can have. I would be so glad to just rid of this life.

Also, thank you for trying to give helpful advice anyway. But thinking of myself as special and valuable always creates that conflict I mentioned. There is no way past that conflict.

Whenever I think of myself as special and valuable, that causes me absolute rage since it is the worst insult to that value and specialness to have me just forever thrown and decayed away. It just doesn't work for me.

So, like I said, the only way for me to remove that conflict would be to deem myself as nothing special and nothing valuable at all.

I don't see how that solves anything.

If the human species is hardwired to move toward pleasure and away from pain.......he will always inevitably be saying he's at least worth more then the devastating thing that is about to occur to him/her.

They only way it works is if human beings as soon as they are able to reason..........jump off a bridge or allow pain to shower their life.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Life only has meaning and value because it is finite. Endless existence would eventually become meaningless and empty - and then you would still have to exist for an infinite amount time after that.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If I am special and have value as a human being, that creates a major conflict for me. This conflict would be that for such a special and valuable person as myself to just forever rot and decay away would be the greatest insult to my value and specialness as a human being.

It would be utterly demeaning of my value and specialness. It would be just tossing me away like trash. So in order to resolve this conflict, I would have to deem myself as nothing special at all and of no value. However, if I am immortal and do get to live forever in heaven, then there would be no conflict.

So, in short, if there is a heaven for me to live forever in, then I would deem myself as valuable and special since that conflict would not exist. But if there is no afterlife, then I would just view myself as a piece of **** who might as well just die anyway.

This would also apply to the relationship I have with my own family and how I view other human beings.

With no powerful intelligence orchestrating the entire universe according to some plan, the lack of an afterlife does not reflect any judgement on your value as a human being.

 

[Quiddity]

Life only has meaning and value because it is finite. Endless existence would eventually become meaningless and empty - and then you would still have to exist for an infinite amount time after that.

Amount of time = value...........like fine wine............don't really understand how that is.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Eh. The afterlife is overrated. Ask any dead person.

 

[George-ananda]

Lawyers have the habit of creating evidence where none exists. I am not surprised.

Strong atheists have the habit of ignoring inconvenient evidence. I am not surprised.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Will like to bring post 23 from ENTP Logician to your attention.

 

[George-ananda]

Will like to bring post 23 from ENTP Logician to your attention.

Thanks, because it shows my point about atheists