How low can they go?

[Truth in love]

Absolutely not; I know nothing about your intelligence. What I'm questioning is your willingness to engage the topic intelligently.

I see the every popular if I don't agree with you there something wrong with you mind set.

Why not engage with the topic?

 

[The Hammer]

So when the CDC and others put politics first what does the doctor do?

Do you have first of a politics first priority for the CDC? Or is it just someone else's talking points?

 

[The Hammer]

Just wait a few more month, maybe a year or two, and it will be even more clear. Here in Holland the politicians even tell it us plain and simple. Dutch don't protest so much, so here they test out how far they can go, with these extreme ways. They already told us that from the EU they have the order to NOT give compensation anymore to the poor who can't manage anymore; meaning "just let them die"...they don't care a damn at all about life and death (totally against the law, but he what the heck, it's corona time...everything can be ignored, even our constitutional rights), so this also proves that the vaccines are a huge scam, they want people to die, but it should of course be a little bit veiled, while fooling the public that they even care, one big laugh. And it's all governed from the top, the EU (Klaus schwab and his maffia, explain all on their website, if you are really interested, read it yourself)

What part of COVID is a hoax?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I see the every popular if I don't agree with you there something wrong with you mind set.

What you should see is the ever popular if you don't agree with ...

(a) It shall constitute unprofessional conduct for a physician and surgeon to disseminate misinformation or disinformation related to COVID-19, including false or misleading information regarding the nature and risks of the virus, its prevention and treatment; and the development, safety, and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines. [ source ]​

... there's something wrong with you mindset.

 

[stvdv]

Okay so it doesn't prove what you said. We have to "wait a few more month" for that?
Sorry but that's what all the conspiracy theorists say. "just wait and you'll see ... " And then nothing ever happens. Ho hum. Even though you just said this "proves that this whole Corona naratative, as told by the Governments is the biggest scam of the past few years." But now we have to wait and see.

I did say where to find the info if you don't want to wait and experience first hand yourself

 

[stvdv]

With all these countries who hate each other and can't even agree if it's night or day agreeing on covid, how do you justify the belief its a hoax?

In Holland we have some ministers who show us these facts. And they are quite the smart ones, the "not so smart ones", to say it nicely, don't seem to get it yet

But no need to worry...it can't be reversed anyway. We just have to except the "New Normal". Klaus Swchwab and 'friends' made this plan already years ago...it's all on their website to read what they planned in Davos. Even taped on video to watch, many PM, Presidents attended (even Trump I saw on the video)

And this is real, no hoax

 

[Secret Chief]

"wait a few more month"

or "maybe a year or two"

 

[Secret Chief]

So your questioning my intelligence?

"You're", not "your." It's not a good start.

 

[exchemist]

This proves that this whole Corona naratative, as told by the Governments is the biggest scam of the past few years. Here in Holland the same is happening. This proves that this Corona scam is a worldwide scam, call it brainwashing, getting everyone in line with their Corona fake story, and punish those who do not obey. Freedom of speech and choice is already gone. I warned for this the past 3 years, all on RF declared me crazy, but here you have it. No escape possible anymore.

You are indeed crazy if this is what you think.

 

[stvdv]

What part of COVID is a hoax?

That it's a killer like the plaque was. In Holland not so many died of it, so they added all the 16000 death of ordinary flue to Corona to up the Corona numbers

They thought the Dutch were too "stupid" to notice this on the special Dutch "WHO" equivalent site. But I didn't miss it, as I always first check the official site

The next year they corrected it. Such stunts did have some impact on the trustworthiness of WHO etc. as you probably can imagines, and it was not the only blunder I discovered (one of the many blunders and inconveniences...or maybe done on purpose to check how far they can go, before people revolt)

 

[stvdv]

You are indeed crazy if this is what you think.

You are "indeed crazy believing the original official story" I could reply to your kind of reply (expected it from you, as you often use this kind of words)

 

[The Hammer]

That's a killer like the plaque was. In Holland not so many died of it, so they added all the 16000 death of ordinary flue to Corona to up the Corona numbers

athey thought the Dutch were too "stupid" to notice this on the special Dutch "WHO" ewuivalent site. But I didn't miss it, as I always first check the official site

The next year they corrected it. Such stunts did have some impact on the trustworthiness of WHO etc. as you probably can imagines, and it was not the only blunder I discovered (one of the many blunders and inconveniences...or maybe done on purpose to check how far they can go, before people revolt)

Soooo... Criteria changed is your whole argument.

Whoopty doo.... Happens all the time with emerging science and classifications (especially with a new disease).

The testing wasn't as accurate in the beginning so they counted what they thought could be potential Covid deaths, until they could be positive with better testing. That's kinda how these things work. Not a sign of conspiracy, but of science working appropriately.

Nice try.

 

[stvdv]

Nice try.

I see, misinterpreting my words
Well, I don't care...enough said about this

 

[The Hammer]

I see, misinterpreting my words
Well, I don't care...enough said about this

No misinterpretation imv, care to elaborate?


Edit: This seems to follow what I said, that overrepresentation can happen, but it isn't a huge amount compared to the rest of the accurate representations.

DEFINE_ME

Edit 2: I can't find anything that backs up your claims.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In Holland we have some ministers who show us these facts. And they are quite the smart ones, the "not so smart ones", to say it nicely, don't seem to get it yet

But no need to worry...it can't be reversed anyway. We just have to except the "New Normal". Klaus Swchwab and 'friends' made this plan already years ago...it's all on their website to read what they planned in Davos. Even taped on video to watch, many PM, Presidents attended (even Trump I saw on the video)

And this is real, no hoax

Trump is on audio recording acknowledging with his own voice and words that covid is pretty serious and nasty, just as he's on recording stating he lied about it to the American people.

 

[stvdv]

Trump is on audio recording acknowledging with his own voice and words that covid is pretty serious and nasty, just as he's on recording stating he lied about it to the American people.

Yes...Americans vote for strange Presidents, this one has a knack for lying...I wonder why Trump lied about Corona in the first place?

 

[stvdv]

No misinterpretation imv, care to elaborate?


Edit: This seems to follow what I said, that overrepresentation can happen, but it isn't a huge amount compared to the rest of the accurate representations.

DEFINE_ME

Zero ordinary flu death where for the past decennia there were yearly at least 8000 till 16000 is not just an overrepresentation

That clearly was to fool the people on purpose
(well the gullible ones)

 

[The Hammer]

Zero ordinary flu death where for the past decennia there were yearly at least 8000 till 16000 is not just an overrepresentation

That clearly was to fool the people on purpose
(well the gullible ones)

Source? I can't just take you at your word.

Not everything is some big conspiracy. Models and methods adjust friend.

My wife was hours from dying from Covid. I can't agree that it was a hoax, or even close to some sort of conspiracy plot.

 

[stvdv]

Source? I can't just take you at your word.

Not everything is some big conspiracy. Models and methods adjust friend.

My wife was hours from dying from Covid. I can't agree that it was a hoax, or even close to some sort of conspiracy plot.

I know, when health is not too good the flu even yearly kills around 16000 people in Holland

I also got it, and got pretty sick of it (no vaccination and extremely weak health...but fasting for 2 weeks on raw juices got me back in control or maybe just Sai Baba's Grace... could be, as Sai Baba promised to protect me a few decades ago)

I also know from the stats that many in America have severe overweight (Holland gets worse too, even young kids are obese nowadays), as in obese, which is a killer to ones immune system

I am extreme the opposite, so underweight 25 kg, which is as bad if not worse than overweight

 

[The Hammer]

I know, when health is not too good the flu even yearly kills around 16000 people in Holland

I also got it, and got pretty sick of it (no vaccination and extremely weak health...but fasting for 2 weeks on raw juices got me back in control or maybe just Sai Baba's Grace... could be, as Sai Baba promised to protect me a few decades ago)

I also know from the stats that many in America have severe overweight (Holland gets worse too, even young kids are obese nowadays), as in obese, which is a killer to ones immune system

I am extreme the opposite, so underweight 25 kg, which is as bad if not worse than overweight

My wife is a fairly healthy military veteran like me. She was hospitalized for 4 weeks. And was hypoxic (Low Oxy, turning blue) at many points.

I had to speak with the hospital to make her death arrangements, before she ever started to heal.

So far Holland had: 22,598 Covid deaths.

The flu in the Netherlands is: The age adjusted Death Rate is 9.84 per 100,000 of population ranks Netherlands #160 in the world.

So they seem to be different afaict.