paarsurrey
Veteran Member
One my like to view my post #205 in another thread and to discuss the concepts, please, right?I agree that Paul/Saul of Tarsus is not a reliable source for what Yeshua bar Yosef of Nazareth taught or believed. In fact, if it wasn't for Marcion preserving his letters, it seems many early Christians were content to have his views lost in the sands of time. By Saul's own admission, he was not necessarily teaching the same things as Simon bar Yona and Ya'akov bar Yosef, who are the only historical figures that I think are likely to have known Yeshua in life.
However, the other texts we have about Yeshua are mostly anonymous or pseudonymous, written decades after his death, likely by people who never knew him personally. Even during Saul's time, there was some fragmentation among Christians about what they believe, and all of these texts were written after some time had passed for these various concepts to grow into entire sub-movements like the Ebionites, the Nazarenes, the Sethians, the Valentinians, etc.
If Saul is not a reliable source on what Yeshua taught and believed, which I don't think he is, then none of the other texts are, either, because they're even further from the source.
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