How many on here are truly undecided on this debate

[StarryNightshade]

I believe in God, but I don't believe it specifically controlled evolution as a means to enact it's "divine will", so I guess I'm not a "Theist Evolutionist"

I don't believe the Earth is 6000 years old or was made in 7 days, so I'm not a YEC. I guess by default, I'm also not an OEC either, since both imply one adheres to an Abrahamic faith (namely Christianity)

I do believe evolution to be true and am open to any further changes or additions to it as science progresses. So, that leaves "evolutionist" as the remaining definite option.

So, to answer your question, I'm a Deist who believes naturalistic evolution to be true.

 

[Revoltingest]

One vote for "evolutionist" here.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I swear that I read somewhere that "theistic evolution" is different than the commonly accepted, scientific theory. Something about evolution was extremely fast and that the entire process was indirectly related to intelligent design. If I remember it any better, I think it also claimed that natural selection wasn't even part of it.

I never did agree with that, I always have believed in the evolution we've all come to know.

 

[idav]

I am somewhere in between evolutionist and theist evolutionist. I cant bring myself to say that god is micromanaging evolution but at the same time I cannot rule out some sort of guided process. Animals that have any sort of intelligence will likely guide their own evolutionary process.

 

[McBell]

What is theistic evolution?

It varies (sometimes greatly) depending upon the theistic evolutionist you ask.

For some it is simply that god created life and let evolution take over.
For others it is god created life and took direct hand in guiding the evolution process.

For still others it is god created life then pushed evolution when it needed it.

I can honestly say that I have as yet to hear a theistic evolutionist who did not start with "god created life"....

 

[McBell]

2 against 26? I always knew this forum was pretty lopsided. LOL

Interesting how you use the term "lopsided" as though creationism has something to hold it up outside the wishful thinking of its followers.

 

[McBell]

ahh.... The first crack in the theistic evolution stance, which is as anti-science as creationism. I've been warning Christian evolutionists that it will come eventually.

One would think that you would get tired of playing the martyr.
Seeing as all it does is reduce your credibility...

But then, I am not sure your credibility concerning creation/evolution could drop any lower than it currently is.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

I have no doubt whatsoever, that the Biblical narrative of the creation account is true and literal.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." ~ Genesis 1:1-2

So when the Bible says that God was "hovering over the waters" of a formless Earth, what do you literally take that to mean? Do you literally believe that there was water in a void? Or is this to be taken figuratively?

And if so, what's the point of insisting that the Bible be taken literally?