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How many people wrote the Qur'an?

firedragon

Veteran Member
As a non-muslim or a Muslim what ever you are, since I have been hearing a claim I ask this question. How many people do you think wrote the Qur'an and what's your reasoning or evidence behind it? How have you established it with what kind of scholarship?

Thanks.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I think it was all revealed through Mohammed who was not literate. So, it was written down by scribes but there is only one author, Mohammed.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I think it was all revealed through Mohammed who was not literate. So, it was written down by scribes but there is only one author, Mohammed.
Actually my question doesn't have anything to do with divine revelation. It was for those who make certain claims about its authorship.

Nevertheless, your statement contradicts itself. If it was revealed "through" Muhammed, he cannot be the author. So you should understand your statement is a logical contradiction which means it's logically impossible which means it cannot exist and it's not possible for it to be true in anyway.

Yet, maybe you meant something else and you just worded it wrong so please do clarify when you have time.

Thank you so much.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Actually my question doesn't have anything to do with divine revelation. It was for those who make certain claims about its authorship.

Nevertheless, your statement contradicts itself. If it was revealed "through" Muhammed, he cannot be the author. So you should understand your statement is a logical contradiction which means it's logically impossible which means it cannot exist and it's not possible for it to be true in anyway.

Yet, maybe you meant something else and you just worded it wrong so please do clarify when you have time.

Thank you so much.
I'll clarify. The human author is Mohammed. His source of inspiration was a higher non-physical source. You could also say a higher source was the author.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I'll clarify. The human author is Mohammed. His source of inspiration was a higher non-physical source. You could also say a higher source was the author.
So you are basically saying it's "one author" correct? Thank you for that response mate. Appreciated.

BTW, what are your reasonings for that assertion? Any scholarship you used on that?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
So you are basically saying it's "one author" correct? Thank you for that response mate. Appreciated.

BTW, what are your reasonings for that assertion? Any scholarship you used on that?
The collective research of many scholars.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
So you are basically saying it's "one author" correct? Thank you for that response mate. Appreciated.

BTW, what are your reasonings for that assertion? Any scholarship you used on that?
The collective research of many scholars, mate.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
As a non-muslim or a Muslim what ever you are, since I have been hearing a claim I ask this question. How many people do you think wrote the Qur'an and what's your reasoning or evidence behind it? How have you established it with what kind of scholarship?

Thanks.

How many ears or hide on a herd of undisclosed number of camels or who was the author is the question imo.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
The collective research of many scholars, mate.

Maybe many chefs spoi the broth,can you actually use their reasoning to come to an absolute? Or is there a margin of doubt ?.

Interesting fact,my predecessors were dissenters based on the words of scholars,were they de facto right just being scholars?.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Maybe many chefs spoi the broth,can you actually use their reasoning to come to an absolute? Or is there a margin of doubt ?.

Interesting fact,my predecessors were dissenters based on the words of scholars,were they de facto right just being scholars?.
At some point we have to judge who is honestly the most interested in getting to the facts. And consider if sources are clearly pro- or anti- Islam.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
At some point we have to judge who is honestly the most interested in getting to the facts. And consider if sources are clearly pro- or anti- Islam.

Or at some point question the source and whether it can withstand examination,facts are good if supported,some of us are still waiting for that,seems you are not.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Maybe many chefs spoi the broth,can you actually use their reasoning to come to an absolute? Or is there a margin of doubt ?.

Interesting fact,my predecessors were dissenters based on the words of scholars,were they de facto right just being scholars?.
You are just making guesses. You have to use scholarship, not just say "I believe it because he says so" which is appeal to authority. So your second point is correct, although you are not using any scholarship or even authority for "maybe" statement. Hope you understand.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
You are just making guesses. You have to use scholarship, not just say "I believe it because he says so" which is appeal to authority. So your second point is correct, although you are not using any scholarship or even authority for "maybe" statement. Hope you understand.

Scholars are human yes?,how reliable are scholars of maths or a language or physics,there are more but the subject is testable,for religious scholars this is not possible,it cannot be tested and therefore cannot provide answers.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Scholars are human yes?,how reliable are scholars of maths or a language or physics,there are more but the subject is testable,for religious scholars this is not possible,it cannot be tested and therefore cannot provide answers.
I didn't. talk about scholars. I spoke of scholarship.

Anyway, dismissing scholars and/or scholarship and making a guessing game like you so far did is absurd. So thanks for engaging. This is not going an inch further.

Cheers.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
As a non-muslim or a Muslim what ever you are, since I have been hearing a claim I ask this question. How many people do you think wrote the Qur'an and what's your reasoning or evidence behind it? How have you established it with what kind of scholarship?

Thanks.
In Sunni tradition, it is believed that the first caliph Abu Bakr ordered Zayd ibn Thabit to compile the written Quran, relying upon both textual fragments and the memories of those who had memorized it during Muhammad's lifetime, with the rasm (undotted Arabic text) being officially canonized under the third caliph .
 
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