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How old was Aesha when she married the Messenger of God, peace be upon him and his pure progeny

mojtaba

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The Sunni scientists insist on proving that Aeshe married the messenger of God (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) in the age of six and she entered the house of Hazrat Muhammad in the age of nine and they consider this matter the reason of superiority of Aeshe to other wives of the messenger of God. However, is this reality of the matter?

We will analyze this matter in this article.

Before dealing with the origin of the matter, the marriage of the messenger of God with Aeshe should be clarified so that we can conclude how old Aeshe was when she married the messenger of God.

There are different point of views about the marriage of the messenger of God (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) with Aeshe.

Muhammad Ben Ismaeil Bokhari narrates from Aeshe that the messenger of God married her three years later after marriage with Hazrat Khadije (peace be upon her)

حدثنا قُتَيْبَةُ بن سَعِيدٍ حدثنا حُمَيْدُ بن عبد الرحمن عن هِشَامِ بن عُرْوَةَ عن أبيه عن عَائِشَةَ رضي الله عنها قالت ما غِرْتُ على امْرَأَةٍ ما غِرْتُ على خَدِيجَةَ من كَثْرَةِ ذِكْرِ رسول اللَّهِ (ص) إِيَّاهَا قالت وَتَزَوَّجَنِي بَعْدَهَا بِثَلَاثِ سِنِينَ وَأَمَرَهُ رَبُّهُ عز وجل أو جِبْرِيلُ عليه السَّلَام أَنْ يُبَشِّرَهَا بِبَيْتٍ في الْجَنَّةِ من قَصَبٍ.​

It has been narrated from Aeshe that I was jealous of no woman as much as Khadije because a) the messenger of God remembered her a lot; b) the messenger of God married me three years after her marriage with Khadije; c) God ordered the messenger of God and Jebreil to say hello to Khadije and annunciate her to a house made of in the heaven.

(Al-Bokhari Al-Jaafi, Muhammad Ben Esmaeel Abu Abdullah (died in 256 hejira), Sahih Al-Bokhari, v 3 p 3606, hadith 3606, Ketab Fazael Al-Sahabe, chapter Tazvij Al-Nabi Khadije va Fazleha Raziollah Anha, Researched by: D. Mostafa Deib Al-Bagha, Published by: Dar Ibn Kathir, Al-Yamame, Beirut, Third Edition, 1407- 1987)

According to the narration that Hazrat Khadije (peace be upon her) passed away in the Besat tenth; therefore, the marriage of the messenger of God with Aeshe was in the Besat thirteen the

Ibn Molghan has said after narrating the narration of Bokhari and reasoning to it

وبنى بها بالمدينة في شوال في السنة
الثانية.​

The messenger of God and Aeshe started living together in the second year of Hejrat.

(Al-Ansari Al-Shafei, Seraj Al-Din Abi Hefs Omar Bn Ali Ben Ahmad Known as Ibn Al-Molaghan (died in 804 hejira), Ghayat Al-Soval Fi Khasaes Al-Rasul Salalaho Alaihe va Salam, v 1 p 236, Researched by: Abdullah Bahr Al-Din Abdullah, Published by: Dar Al-Bashaer Al-Eslamiye, Beirut, 1414 Hejira- 1993)

According to this narration, the messenger of God married Aeshe in the thirteen year of Besat and they held wedding ceremony formally in the second year of Hejrat.

We can conclude from the narration of some other Sunni dignitaries that the marriage of the messenger of God with Aeshe was the fourth year of Hejrat.

Balazeri has written about the biography of Sude, other wife of the messenger of God (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants), in the book ' ' Ansab Al-Ashraf ' '

وتزوج رسولُ الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، بعد خديجة، سودة بنت زَمعة بن قيس، من بني عامر بن لؤي، قبل الهجرة بأشهر... فكانت أول امرأة وطئها بالمدينة​

The messenger of God married Sude, the daughter of Zame, after his marriage with Khadije, few months before migration and she was the first wife that the messenger of God had sextual intercourse with her in Medina.

(Al-Balazari, Ahmad Ben Yahya Ben Jaber (died in 279 hejira), Ansab Al-Ashraf, v 1 p 181, according to the software of Jamat Al-Kabir)

On the other hand, Zahabi claims that Sude Ben Zame was the wife of the messenger of God for four years.

وتوفيت في آخر خلافة عمر ، وقد انفردت بصحبة النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أربع سنين لا تشاركها فيه امرأة ولا سرية ، ثم بنى بعائشة بعد ... .​

Sude was passed away in the last year of the caliphate of Umar and she was the wife of the messenger of God for four years. No woman and servant were collaborator in this action with Sude in these four years. Then the messenger of God married Aeshe.

(Al-Zahabi, Shams Al-Din Muhammad Ben Ahmad Ben Osman (died in 748 hejira), Tarikh Al-Eslam Vafiyat Al-Mashahir Al-Alam, v 3 p 288, Researched by: D. Omar Abd Al-Eslam Tedmeri, Published by: Dar Al-Kotob Al-Arabi, Lebanon / Beirut, First Edition; 1407 Hejira- 1987)

Hence, Aeshe married Hazrat Muhammad in the fourth year of Hejrat( four years after the marriage of the messenger of God with Sude).

Referring to the historical documents, we will survey the age of Aeshe in the time of marriage:

Comparing the age of Aeshe with the age of Asma, the daughter of Abi Bakr:

One of matters that proves the exact age of Aeshe in the time of marriage with the messenger of God is comparing her age with the age of her sister, Asma (the daughter of Abi Bakr. according to the narration of the Sunni dignitaries, Asma was ten years older than Aeshe and she was twenty seven years old in the first year of Hejri. she also passed away in the seventy third year when she was one hundred years old.

Abu Naeim Isfahani has written in the book ' ' Marefe Al-Sahabe ' '

مَاتَتْ أَسْمَاءُ بنتُ أبي بَكْرٍ الصِّدِّيقِ سَنَةَ ثَلاثٍ وَسَبْعِينَ بَعْدَ ابْنِهَا عبد اللَّهِ بن الزُّبَيْرِ بِلَيَالٍ ... وكان لاسماء يوم مَاتَتْ مِائَةُ سَنَةٍ وُلِدَتْ قبل التَّارِيخِ بِسَبْعٍ وَعِشْرِينَ سَنَةً .​

Asama, the daughter of Abu Bakr, passed away in 73 A.H. after her son, Abdullah Ben Zobeir. Asma was a hundred years old in the time of her decease and she was born twenty seven years before the history of the migration.

(Al-Asbahani, Abu Naeem Ahmad Ben Abdullah (died in 430 hejira), Marefat Al-Sahabe, v 6 p 3253 no 3769, according to the software of Jamat Al-Kabir)

And Tabarani has written

مَاتَتْ أَسْمَاءُ بنتُ أبي بَكْرٍ الصِّدِّيقِ سَنَةَ ثَلاثٍ وَسَبْعِينَ بَعْدَ ابْنِهَا عبد اللَّهِ بن الزُّبَيْرِ بِلَيَالٍ ... وكان لاسماء يوم مَاتَتْ مِائَةُ سَنَةٍ وُلِدَتْ قبل التَّارِيخِ بِسَبْعٍ وَعِشْرِينَ سَنَةً .​

Asma, the daughter of Abu Bakr, passed away after the death of his son, Abdullah Ben Zobeir, in 73 A.H. Asma was a hundred years old in the time of her decease and she was born 70 years before the date of the migration.

(Al-Tabarani, Soleiman Ben Ahmad Ben Ayub Abu Al-ghasem (died in 360 hejira), Al-Moajem Al-Kabir, v 24 p 77, Researched by: hamdi Ben Abd Al-Majid Al-Salafi, Published by: Maktab Al-Zahra, Al-Movasel, Second Edition; 1404 Hejira- 1983)

Ibn Asaker has also written

كانت أخت عائشة لأبيها وكانت أسن من عائشة ولدت قبل التاريخ بسبع وعشرين سنة​

Asama was the sister of Aeshe and older than her from maternal aspect. Asma was born twenty seven years before the history.

(Ibn Asaker Al-Dameshghi Al-Shafei, Abi Al-ghasem Ali Ben Al-Hasan Ibn Habatollah Ben Abdullah (died in 571 hejira), Tarikh Medina Damascus va Zakara Fazloha va Tasmiyat Min Haleha Min Al-Amathel, v 69 p 9, Researched by: Moheh Al-Din Abi Saeed Omar Ben Gharame Al-Omari, Published by: Dar Al-Fekr, Beirut, 1995)

Ibn Asir has written

قال أبو نعيم : ولدت قبل التاريخ بسبع وعشرين سنة.​

Abu Naeim has said ' ' Asma was born twenty seven years before the history ' '.

(Al-Jazari Ez Al-Din Ben Al-Athir Abi Al-Hasan Ali Ben Muhammad (died in 630 hejira), Asad Al-Ghabat Fi Marefat Al-Sahabe, v 7 p 11, Researched by: Adel Ahmad Al-Refai, Published by: Dar Ehya Al-Torath Al-Arabi, Beirut/ Lebanon, First Edition; 1417 Hejira- 1996)

And Nuvi has written

وعن الحافظ أبي نعيم قال ولدت أسماء قبل هجرة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم بسبع وعشرين سنة .​

It has been narrated from Hafez Abu Naeim that said

'Asma was born twenty seven years before the migration.'

(Al-Navavi, Abu Zakariya Yahya Ben Sharaf Ben Meri (died in 676 hejira),Tahzib Al-Asma Al-Loghat, v 2 p 597-598, Researched by: Muhammad Al-Bahuth Al-Dorasat, Published by: Dar Al-Fekr, Beirut, First Edition, 1996)

And Hafez Heisami has written

وكانت لأسماء يوم ماتت مائة سنة ولدت قبل التاريخ بسبع وعشرين سنة وولدت أسماء لأبي بكر وسنه إحدى وعشرون سنة.​

Asma was a hundred years old in the time of her decease and she was born twenty seven years before the history of the migration.

(Al-Heithami, Abu Al-hasan Ali Ben Abibakr (died in 807 hejira), Majma Al-Zavaed Manba Al-Favaed, v 9 p 260, Published by: Dar Al-Riyan Lel Torath/ Dar Al-Kotob Al-Arabi, Cairo, Beirut, 1407 Hejira)


And Badr Al-Din Eini has written

أسماء بنت أبي بكر الصديق... ولدت قبل الهجرة بسبع وعشرين سنة ، وأسلمت بعد سبعة عشر إنساناً ... توفيت بمكة في جمادى الأولى سنة ثلاث وسبعين بعد قتل ابنها عبد اللَّه بن الزبير ، وقد بلغت المائة ولم يسقط لها سن ولم يتغير عقلها ، رضي الله تعالى عنها .​

Asma, the daughter of Abu Bakr, was born twenty seven years before the migration. She was the seventeenth person that believed in God in 73 A.H. After her child, Abdullah Ben Zobeir, was killed, she passed away when she was a hundred years old, but none of her teeth had fallen and she had not lost her mind.

(Al-Eini, Badr Al-Din Abu Muhammad Mahmud Ben Ahmad Al-Ghitabi Al-Hanafi, (died in 855 hejira), Omdat Al-Ghari Sharh Sahih Al-Bokhari, v 2 p 93, Published by: Dar Ehya Al-Torath Al-Arabi, Beirut)

Ibn Hajar Asghalani has said

8525 أسماء بنت أبي بكر الصديق زوج الزبير بن العوام من كبار الصحابة عاشت مائة سنة وماتت سنة ثلاث أو أربع وسبعين .​

Asma, the daughter of Abu Bakr and the wife of Zobeir Ben Avam, that was one of dignitaries of the companions. She lived for a hundred years and she passed away in 73 or 74 A.H.

(Al-Asghalani Al-Shafei, Ahmad Ben Ali Ben Hajar Abu Al-Fazl (died in 852 hejira), Al-Esabat Fi Tamiz Al-Sahabat, v 7 p 487, Researched by: Ali Muhammad Al-Bajavi, Published by: Dar Al-Jeil, Beirut, First Edition, 1412 hejira- 1992)

وقال هشام بن عروة عن أبيه بلغت أسماء مائة سنة لم يسقط لها سن ولم ينكر لها عقل وقال أبو نعيم الأصبهاني ولدت قبل الهجرة بسبع وعشرين سنة​

(Al-Asghalani Al-Shafei, Ahmad Ben Ali Ben Hajar Abu Al-Fazl (died in 852 hejira), Taghrib Al-Tahzib, v 1 p 743, Researched by: Muhammad Ovame, Published by: Dar Al-Rashid, Syira, First Edition; 1406- 1986)
 

mojtaba

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Ibn Abd Al-Ber Ghartebi has also written

وتوفيت أسماء بمكة في جمادى الأولى سنة ثلاث وسبعين بعد قتل ابنها عبد الله بن الزبير بيسير... قال ابن اسحاق إن أسماء بنت أبي بكر أسلمت بعد اسلام سبعة عشر إنسانا... وماتت وقد بلغت مائة سنة​

Asma passed away in Jamadi Al-Aval 73 in Mecca and after her son, Abdullah Ben Zobeir deceased. Ibn Ishagh has said ' ' Asma, the daughter of Abu Bakr, became Muslim after seventeen persons. When she passed away, she was a hundred years old.

(Al-Namari Al-Ghartabi, Abu Omar Yusef Ben Abdullah Ben Abd Al-Ber (died in 463 hejira), Al-Estiab Fi Marefat Al-Ashab, v 4 p 1782- 1783, Researched by: Ali Muhammad Al-Bajavi, Published by: Dar Al-Jeil, Beirut, First Edition; 1412 Hejira)

Sefadi has written

وماتت بعده بأيام يسيرة سنة ثلاث وسبعين للهجرة وهي وأبوها وابنها وزوجها صحابيون قيل إنها عاشت مائة.​

Asma passed away in 73 A.H. after a short time and after the decease of Abdullah Ben Zobeir. Her father, son and husband were Sahabi and it has been said that she lived for a hundred years.

(Al-Sefadi, Salah Al-Din Khalil Ben Aibak, (died in 764 hejira), Al-Vafi Bel Vafiyat, v 9 p 36, Researched by: Ahmad Al-Arnowt and Torki Mostafa, Published by: Dar Ehya Al-Torath , Beirut, 1420 Hejira- 2000)

Beihaghi narrates that Asma was ten years older than Aeshe

أبو عبد الله بن منده حكاية عن بن أبي الزناد أن أسماء بنت أبي بكر كانت أكبر من عائشة بعشر سنين .​

Ibn Mende has narrated that Asama, the daughter of Abu Bakr, was ten years older than Aeshe.

(Al-Beihaghi Ahmad Ben Al-Hossein Ben Ali Ben Musa Abubakr (died in 458 hejira), Sonan Al-Beihaghi Al-Kobra, v 6 p 204, Published by: Maktab Dar Al-Baz, Mecca, Researched by: Muhammad Abd Al-ghader Ata, 1414- 1994)

Zahabi and Ibn Asaker have narrated this matter

قال عبد الرحمن بن أبي الزناد كانت أسماء أكبر من عائشة بعشر.​

(Al-Zahabi, Shams Al-Din Muhammad Ben Ahmad Ben Osman (died in 748 hejira), Seir Alam Al-Nobala, v 2 p 289, Researched by: Shoaib Al-Arnowt, Muhammad Naeem Al-Araghsusi, Published by: Resalat Institute, Beirut, Ninth Edition, 1413 Hejira)

قال ابن أبي الزناد وكانت أكبر من عائشة بعشر سنين.​

(Ibn Asaker Al-Dameshghi Al-Shafei, Abi Al-ghasem Ali Ben Al-Hasan Ibn Habatollah Ben Abdullah (died in 571 hejira), Tarikh Medina Damascus va Zakara Fazloha va Tasmiye Min Haleha Min Al-Amathel, v 69 p 8, Researched by: Moheb Al-Din Abi Saeed Omar Ben Gharame Al-Omari, Published by: Dar Al-Fekr, Beirut, 1995)

Ibn Kasir Dameshghi Selfi has written in the book ' ' Al-Bedaye and Al-Nahaye ' '

وممن قتل مع ابن الزبير فى سنة ثلاث وسبعين بمكة من الأعيان ...​

أسماء بنت أبى بكر والدة عبد الله بن الزبير... وهى أكبر من أختها عائشة بعشر سنين... وبلغت من العمر مائة سنة ولم يسقط لها سن ولم ينكر لها عقل .​

Asma, the daughter of Abu Bakr and the mother of Abdullah Ben Zobeir, was one of persons that passed away in Mecca in 73 A.H. Asma was ten years older than her sister, Aeshe. She passed away when she was a hundred years old and none of her teeth had fallen and she had not lost her mind.

(Ibn Kathir Al-Dameshghi, Esmaeel Ben Omar Al-Gharashi Abu Al-Feda, Al-Badaye Al-Nahaye, v 8 p 345- 346, Published by: Maktab Al-Maaref, Beirut)

Mola Ali Ghari has written

وهي أكبر من أختها عائشة بعشر سنين وماتت بعد قتل ابنها بعشرة أيام ... ولها مائة سنة ولم يقع لها سن ولم ينكر من عقلها شيء ، وذلك سنة ثلاث وسبعين بمكة.​

Asma was ten years older than her sister, Aeshe. She passed away after her son was killed. She was a hundred years old in the time of her decease and none of her teeth had fallen and she had not lost her mind. Her decease happened in 73 A.H. in Mecca.

(Mola Ali Al-Ghari, Ali Ben Soltan Muhammad Al-Heravi, Maraghat Al-Mafatih Sharh Meshkat Al-Masabih, v 1 p 331, Researched by: Jamal Etani, Published by: Dar Al-Kotob Al-Elmie, Lebanon/ Beirut, First Edition,1422 Hejira- 2001)

Amir Sanaei has written

وهي أكبر من عائشة بعشر سنين وماتت بمكة بعد أن قتل ابنها بأقل من شهر ولها من العمر مائة سنة وذلك سنة ثلاث وسبعين .​

Asma was ten years older than Aeshe and she passed away in Mecca and less than a month after her son was killed and when she was a hundred years old. This matter happened in 73 A.H..

(Al-Sanaani Al-Amir, Muhammad Ben Esmaeel (died in 852 Hejira), Sabal Al-Salam Sharh Bolugh Al-Maram Min Adaleh Al-Ahkam, v 1 p 39, Researched by: Muhammad Abd Al-Aziz Al-Khui, Published by: Dar Ehya Al-Torath Al-Arabi, Beirut, Forth Edition, 1379 hejira)

Asma was fourteen years old in the first year of Besat and she was ten years older than Aeshe. Hence, Aeshe was four years old in the first year of Besat and seventeen years old in the thirteen year of Besat ( the year of marriage with the messenger of God) and she was nineteen years old in Shoval in the second year of Hejrat( the formal year of marriage with the prophet).

On the other hand, Asma was a hundred years old in 73 A.H. (73 is detracted from a hundred which equals with 27). Therefore, she was twenty seven years old in the first year of Hejrat.

Asma was ten years older than Aeshe (10 is detracted from 27 which equals with 17).

Aeshe was seventeen years old in the first year of Hejrat. We already proved that the prophet married Aeshe Shoval, the second year of Hejri formally. In other words, Aeshe was nineteen years old in the time of marriage with the messenger of God.

What year did Aeshe believe in God?

The year that Aeshe become Muslim determines and clarifies her age in the time of marriage with the messenger of God (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants). According to the remark of the Sunni dignitaries, Aeshe believed in God in the first year of Besat and she was the early eighteen persons that accepted the message of the messenger of God.

Nuvi has written in the book ' ' Tahzib Al-Asama ' '

وذكر أبو بكر بن أبي خيثمة في تاريخه عن ابن إسحاق أن عائشة أسلمت صغيرة بعد ثمانية عشر إنسانا ممن أسلم .​
Ibn Khisamie has narrated from Ibn Ishaghin in his history ' ' Aeshe believed in God after eighteen persons in her childhood.

(Al-Navavi, Abu Zakariya Yahya Ben Sharaf Ben Meri (died in 676 hejira),Tahzib Al-Asma Al-Loghat, v 2 p 615, Researched by: Muhammad Al-Bahuth Al-Dorasat, Published by: Dar Al-Fekr, Beirut, First Edition, 1996)

And Moghadasi has said

وممن سبق إسلامه أبو عبيدة بن الجراح والزبير بن العوام وعثمان بن مظعون ... ومن النساء أسماء بنت عميس الخثعمية امرأة جعفر ابن أبي طالب وفاطمة بن الخطاب امرأة سعيد بن زيد بن عمرو وأسما بنت أبي بكر وعائشة وهي صغيرة فكان إسلام هؤلاء في ثلاث سنين ورسول الله  يدعو في خفية قبل أن يدخل دار أرقم بن أبي الأرقم.​

Persons that surpassed in becoming Muslim include: Abu Ubeide Jarah …among women Asma, the daughter of Bent Amis and the Jafar Ben Abi Taleb and Aeshe that was child in that time. These persons believed in God in the early three years of Besat that the messenger of God the invited people to believe in God secretly before the messenger of God entered the house of Argham Ben Abi Al-Argham.

(Al-Moghadasi, Motahar Ben Taher (died in 507 hejira), Al-Badaa Al-tarikh, v 4 p 146, Published by: Maktab Al-Thaghafe Al-Diniye, Bur Saeed)

Ibn Hesham mentioned the name of Aeshe as one of persons that believed in God in the first year of Besat when she was child.

إسلام أسماء وعائشة ابنتي أبي بكر وخباب بن الآرت وأسماء بنت أبي بكر وعائشة بنت أبي بكر وهي يؤمئذ صغيرة وخباب بن الأرت حليف بني زهرة.​

(Al-Hamiri Al-Moaferi, Abd Al-Malek Ben Hosham Ben Ayub, Abu Muhammad (died in 213 hejira), Al-Sirat Al-Nabaviye, v 2 p 92, Researched by: Taha Abd Al-Rauf Saad , Published by: Dar Al-Jeil, First Edition, Beirut, 1411 Hejira)

If Aeshe had been seven years old in the time of becoming Muslim (the first year of Besat), she would have been twenty four years in the second year of Hejri (the formal year of the marriage of the messenger of God with Aeshe ).

If we accept the remark of Balazeri that Aeshe married Hazrat Muhammad in the fourth year of Hejri, four years after the marriage of the messenger of God with Sude, the age of Aeshe will be twenty four in the time of her marriage.

This number changes according to the age of Aeshe in the time of becoming Muslim.

Hence, the marriage of Aeshe with the messenger of God in six or nine months is one of lies that was made in the time of Bani Omaye and it is in contrast with the realities of the history.

Walhamdo Lillahi Rabbil Alamin.
 
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Godobeyer

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Salam alykom
I believe the mature age has changed .

My grandmother married at 13 she was mature.
My mother married at 15,she birth me at 16.

Now its weird that happened,before 50 years ago it was normal.
 
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mojtaba

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*** this post was moderated by the RF staff ***
Their pleasure in this case which is the order of Allah is not important for me or other Muslims.

Read the article. Ask from yourself that,
Are Sunni scholars infallible?

Also, this article which I have sent here, only proves that Aiesha married with Prophet Muhammad when she was about 24 yrs old. This article has not any other purpose.
 
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Godobeyer

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Their pleasure in this case which is the order of Allah is not important for me or other Muslims.

Read the article. Ask from yourself that,
Are Sunni scholars infallible?

Also, this article which I have sent here, only proves that Aiesha married with Prophet Muhammad when she was about 24 yrs old. This article has not any other purpose.
Salam sister

From my life experience that I post before, I don't care about Aisha age when she got married.

I believe she carry his (Prophet Muhamamd"pbuh") message to world.

There is much confusion about her marriage age , in Islam history.
 
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mojtaba

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Salam sister

From my life experience that I post before, I don't care about Aisha age when she got married.
There is much confusion about her marriage age , in Islam history.
Salamun Alaykum wa Rahmatullah.

Dear Godobeyer, I am your brother, not your sister. Mojtaba is the name of men, not women!;):cool:
I thought that you are an Arab. It seems that I was wrong!o_O

Anyway, I think the historical evidences are important and I have only brought them. I believe we should increase our knowledge about the history of Islam and then we can judge better.

Waffaqakallah!
 

Godobeyer

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Salamun Alaykum wa Rahmatullah.

Dear Godobeyer, I am your brother, not your sister. Mojtaba is the name of men, not women!;):cool:
I thought that you are an Arab. It seems that I was wrong!o_O

Anyway, I think the historical evidences are important and I have only brought them. I believe we should increase our knowledge about the history of Islam and then we can judge better.

Waffaqakallah!
Ah sorry for mistake about your gender :)

There is lot of historical evidences,and views about this issue.

waffaqakalla too
 

Smart_Guy

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I don't think it matters what age she was. It was a perfectly successful marriage.The hadeeth used could be wrong, specially that it had numbers, or could be perfectly correct.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Successful according to whose criteria??? Child marriage is evil.... there should be an age of consent..

It is in this time. That's our standards today due to the related bad news we hear, but in those old days they were not necessarily their standards or it was not as wrong as they are these days.

Mother Aisha reported tons of his hadeeth even after his death, peace be upon him, including the ones believed to mention her age. She had races with him more than once so she can beet him. She said that she was bless that he died in her house between her arms. That's what I know so far. If it was not a successful marriage, such good things wouldn't have happened, specially reporting hadeeth. It is normal to see people talk about the ones they love, and reporting what they said is part of it.

I can't think of other than that she really loved him, which accordingly makes their marriage successful.

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mojtaba

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Asma's age could simply be a round figure. Muhammad married Aisha at 6 and had sex with her when she was 9. Horrible...

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/67/70
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/63/122
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet (ﷺ) departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married `Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/67/93
Narrated 'Urwa:
The Prophet (ﷺ) wrote the (marriage contract) with `Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

http://sunnah.com/abudawud/12/76
Narrated 'Aishah:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: or Six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old.
If you read the following part of OP, you wouldn't bring those apparently fake traditions.
Hence, the marriage of Aeshe with the messenger of God in six or nine years is one of lies that was made in the time of Bani Omaye and it is in contrast with the realities of the history.
Aiesha was the daughter of first Caliph of Sunnis( i.e., Abu Bakr ).

Making fake narration in favour of The first, second and third Caliphs were the addiction of Bani Umayya rulers.

Ask from yourself, why did according to some fake traditions that other authentic historical evidences oppose them, only the daughter of the first Caliph of Sunnis married with Holy Prophet Muhammad( peace be upon him and his pure progeny ) in small ages? This issue doesn't give us a clue for being sure that these narrations about her age of marrage with Holy Prophet were made for political goals?
Also, according to historical evidences and realities, her marriage with Prophet in small age is not correct. Read the OP again.
 
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RedStorm

Pride and Arrogance
Just a simple case of intersecting morals. One will win out and the other dies out, just the rules of life, no matter how fortunate or un.
 

mojtaba

Active Member
Just a simple case of intersecting morals. One will win out and the other dies out, just the rules of life, no matter how fortunate or un.
What do you mean?

In Islam, marriage with small girls by the leave of their fathers, is a lawful, but dislike doing.

It is narrated from Imam Sadiq or Imam Ridha-peace be upon both of them-( the 6th and 8th true Successors of Prophet Muhammad ) that the marriage of children by the leave of their fathers is a dislike doing which is better not to be done.
( Source, Al-Kafi by Sheykh Al-Koleyni, V. 5, P. 398 )
 
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Pastek

Sunni muslim
We all know that not even in the Arabic peninsula but all over the world people used to marry at a young age, they worked at a young age, and died at a young age.

Anyway, whatever people choose to believe concerning Aisha, and the 4 or 5 hadiths that people use in general to determinate the age of Aisha, people are free to reject or accepting them but i think we can try to learn and search if they are true.

Here a resumé from the following video (arabic) :


From Sahih Bukhari :
Aisha said : I only remember my parents practicing Islam, everyday the Prophet used to come visit us.
And then the muslims were put in trial and had to go on hijra.


1.Aisha remember quite well the 3 first years of the Revelation.

2.So Aisha was born before the Revelation.


From Ibnou Hisham (Prophet's compagnion) :
Ibn Isaac said that Aisha converted to Islam before the Revelation (before the proclamation to all the meccans)

Narrator : In his chapter "The compagnions who came to Islam by Abu Bakr's call" (the first day of Revelation) :
He gave the name of 8 people .
In the next chapter he gave the name of other people and Abu Bakr's wife, Asma (Aisha's sister) and Aisha.

So Aisha converted at a young age.
Aisha then converted at the 2nd or 3rd year of the Revelation.


[Ps : For those who don't know :
1- Khadija died in 619 - before Hegira (622)- and the Prophet didn't marry someone else during this time]
2- Prophet Muhammad was married to Aisha 1 year after the Hijra]

The narrator : Let say 6 or 7 years old as she was young.
So she must have been born 4 years before the Revelation.

Then 4 years (minimum of age here) + 13 years
So she was 17 years old.
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Edit : The Revelation (from Angel Gabriel) was in 610 / the Hegira was in 622/ the mariage was 1 year after the Hegira) so : 13 years.

Look here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegira
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Comparison between Aisha and her older sister Asma :



Some hadiths said that Asma was 27 years old during the Hegira.
It says that she was 100 years old when she died.

She died in the year 73 of Hegira so 27 at Hegira.

And according to the hadiths Asma was 10 years older than Aisha.

If Asma was 27 during the Hegira, Aisha was 17.

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Narrators saying :
We don't really know the age as it was approximations.
People used to not know their exact age.

Narrator : Aisha was fiancé to Jober Ibn Moutam Ibn Adaye (a non muslim)

(Jubayr ibn Mut‘im was one of the Meccan enemies of the Islamic prophet Muhammad who later became a Sahabi (Companion of the Prophet Muhammad).
In 12 BH (610 CE), Abu Bakr had initially engaged his daughter Aisha to Jubayr ibn Mut'im, but this arrangement was canceled in favor of her marriage to Muhammad.
He adopted Islam in the period between the Hudaibiah Treaty and the Conquest of Mecca.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubayr_ibn_Mut'im



Conclusion of the Sheikh : If Aisha converted to Islam at the 2nd or 3rd year of the Revelation she must have been born 5 years before (as she remember things).
5 years old (the minimum age) + 13 years to Hegira (3 years first revelation + 10 years in Mecca+1 year after Hegira) = 19




By the way : If Aisha was engaged to Jobeyr in 610, even if let say she was a baby in 610 o_O:eek: (yes a baby engaged, i take the minimum age) then in 622 she was 12 years old and the mariage was 1 year after the Hijra (so 623) then Aisha was 13.

Let say she was 9 : If we take off 9 years (as the mariage was in 623) : 623-9 = 614
But she was supposed to be engaged in 610 to Jobeyr.

Aisha said she converted to Islam same time as her mother and sister Asma in the beginning of Revelation.
If she was born in 614 she was then a baby so she could not convert and was just "born muslim".

If Jobeyr was ennemy to Muhammad how would Abu Bakr accept to engage his daughter to him after he made the proclamation (of joining Islam) to other Meccans ?

Abu Bakr was according to some hadiths the 1st to accept Islam, other say it was Ali.
So 1st or 2nd anyway he couldn't marry his daughter to an ennemy of Islam.

I don't know how old was Aisha, but i don't believe she was 9 and even more ridiculous 6.
I don't understand why some stay focused on 3 or 4 hadiths and ignore all the others.
The others are known facts : Abu Bakr conversion, Hegira, etc
 
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