How to get people to understand that Paul, John and Simon are all false?

[wizanda]

There has been so much written on here about this again and again, yet repeatedly on here (none Christians) people still choose to quote John as if Christ said any of it.
When clearly there are too many fake parts in it, that contradict the other gospels and then most importantly the Bibles meaning of Yeshua’s coming and then execution or murder by the Pharisee.

That Paul is Anti-Christ through and through, with contradictions that are blatant and something that opposes teachings is Anti.

Then Simon being called stone (peter), don’t any understand that means he is the Muppet who mistaught Israel and is the stone laid before Yeshua’s feet in Zechariah?

Come on really this is quite easy to see once even the truth is presented correctly, yet when we have been deceived to begin with, then clearly you have to test each again, against the other gospels and the Bible….


Now this is why this is short, as though I can post every needed scripture, and can then prove that the Bible and many religious books confirm me as Christ; so then the only loss in this is that of not paying attention or asking….

Yet to continue with something that is fake and to know it is, is then to declare to God who watches all, that you don’t care what God thinks?

 

[sojourner]

There has been so much written on here about this again and again, yet repeatedly on here (none Christians) people still choose to quote John as if Christ said any of it.
When clearly there are too many fake parts in it, that contradict the other gospels and then most importantly the Bibles meaning of Yeshua’s coming and then execution or murder by the Pharisee.

That Paul is Anti-Christ through and through, with contradictions that are blatant and something that opposes teachings is Anti.

Then Simon being called stone (peter), don’t any understand that means he is the Muppet who mistaught Israel and is the stone laid before Yeshua’s feet in Zechariah?

Come on really this is quite easy to see once even the truth is presented correctly, yet when we have been deceived to begin with, then clearly you have to test each again, against the other gospels and the Bible….


Now this is why this is short, as though I can post every needed scripture, and can then prove that the Bible and many religious books confirm me as Christ; so then the only loss in this is that of not paying attention or asking….

Yet to continue with something that is fake and to know it is, is then to declare to God who watches all, that you don’t care what God thinks?

True or False?

(You get one chance.)

 

[Bishka]

How to get people to understand that Paul, John and Simon are all false?

Why would you want to do that?

 

[Booko]

Paul and John are NOT false, and neither are George or Ringo!

 

[Nanda]

Paul and John are NOT false, and neither are George or Ringo!

No, man, Paul died in the 60's and they replaced him with a fake! All you have to do is listen to "Strawberry Fields" in reverse, the proof is there!

 

[Booko]

No, man, Paul died in the 60's and they replaced him with a fake! All you have to do is listen to "Strawberry Fields" in reverse, the proof is there!

I did listen to it in reverse back in the 60s.

So I know for a fact it was really alien messages being beamed at us from behind comet Hale-Bopp. :yes:

 

[Nanda]

I did listen to it in reverse back in the 60s.

So I know for a fact it was really alien messages being beamed at us from behind comet Hale-Bopp. :yes:

Uh-oh... You missed your mass-suicide. :sorry1:

 

[Booko]

Uh-oh... You missed your mass-suicide. :sorry1:

Well, Mom always said I'd be late for my own funeral. :run:

 

[Quagmire]

I'm going to withhold comment on most of what you said, but I do know people (from a wide spectrum of "beliefs")that this part applies to;

Yet to continue with something that is fake and to know it is, is then to declare to God who watches all, that you don’t care what God thinks?

Or to think He'll be impressed if we put on a good enough show.

Matthew 7:21 Not everyone saying to me "Lord, Lord" will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in Heaven will. 22. Many will say to me in that day 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in your name? Cast out demons in your name? and perform many powerful works in your name"? .23. And yet I will confess to them :I never knew you. Get away from me you workers of lawlessness.[]

Alot of people seem to think that if they can fool themselves and the people around them this somehow grants them believable deniability in the face of God or their own conscience.

These people aren't really looking to give themselves to anything, they're just trying to look like they are, believing this will make their selfishness seem nobel, and thinking that somehow this is good enough.

And when the day of accountability comes, whether it's to God or conscience, they tell themselves "...I'll just tell God I thought I was doing the right thing".

 

[ChristineES]

Just remember that we are all judged by the way we judge others.

And if we start discounting some of the bible, then we can discounting all of it.

 

[Papersock]

And if we start discounting some of the bible, then we can discounting all of it.

Agreed

 

[wizanda]

Just remember that we are all judged by the way we judge others.

And if we start discounting some of the bible, then we can discounting all of it.

No we do not discredit the whole Bible, and really that is so cheeky it hurts to hear that sort of comment, from some claiming to follow it or Christ….reason being…is:

Zechariah 11 clearly states this whole occurrence Yeshua is offered…if the 3 foolish shepherds (Levites, Sadducees, Pharisees) choose for 30 pieces of silver and put this in the “POTTERS FIELD” then the whole house of Israel will be cut off….
Can we please have a look at our history books or should we discredit that also happening and say it is all made up?

Anyways if we can continue, without any more daft comments as this isn’t!

Again in Zechariah before Jeshua/Yeshua (typo or grammatical change of letters, J = Y in many languages) feet is laid a stone with Seven eyes.
Simon correctly was named STONE for a reason, who do you think taught Paul?

This needs a point collecting to see this, when the unjust judge is asked from the widow to help, first he goes off to a dry place and when he returns home, it is much worse then when he left.
Paul informs us in Galatians he clears off to a dry place and when he returns home he is met by a stone (peter).

Back to Zechariah 11 and one foolish shepherd re-establishes who is blind in an eye = Paul (close minded teaching)….yet this shall not remain and the whole point of this post is that.

Next to Revelations to clear some points, a dragon is anything claiming it made the rivers and the lakes….

So who took authority from Yeshua and made it appear, he said he made the rivers and the lakes….
John did the most clearly, so maybe look whom John is…….

Well there are enough points within his gospel that only a Pharisee would have ever known about, as on many occasions it says a private meeting or a private conversation of the Pharisees or high council….some of the bits would have never been disclosed to the public, by the Pharisees at the time; as it would have looked very bad on them, killing Lazarus a second time or even discussing such a thing.

So then look what eye witness or colourful descriptions are given to find the actual author, and we see all these reference to Nicodemus defending Yeshua, meeting Yeshua (privately), and the exact measurements bought for his funeral….
So on all of them who would have known them? other then the person doing so…..

So that would imply that we have someone by the name of John with a surname of Nicodemus…..if we check Acts, one of the high council members is recorded at the time as being John……. If we check Revelations we are told that a certain doctrine is hated by us, as it teaches as Balaam also.

What is Balaam teachings (Micah 6:6)….that God would ever sacrifice any living thing and to say so, is to say that God would sacrifice his own son, is the definition of Balaam teachings.

The name Nicodemus is a form of Nicholas, which also Nicolaitans is, and as we are told that of the dragon part is blatantly John 1:1 etc….Yeshua didn’t state this….no disciple did…an X-Pharisee did and you choose to follow this over Christ own words.

As if the other gospels are gone over with this in mind, there are countless points that contradict the gospel of John entirely within the disciples accounts x 3 witnesses against 1.

The best and clearest is do not go after then that say “I AM CHRIST”, that is the gospel of John in its essence and wording, so clearly not of Yeshua’s own mouth.

Then with all the fake parts contained in it, it is has to be dismissed as evidence of Yeshua actual words and must be taken as hear-say evidence, as that is all it is; it is a second hand account of recorded events to imply Yeshua said them things.

Yet with a careful look over the gospel of John and the law, we see it is there completely to discredit Yeshua and why the Jewish have had, such a hard time excepting he was the messiah; when he comes across so bigoted and egotistical in the book of John…where on countless occasion he is saying “I Am this and I Am the father” etc….
Which entirely contradict there is none Good, yet God and to receive eternal life, you must follow the commandments and give up wealth.

Then that more abundantly, that people so love to quote, is a near reference of the cup of Christ, which most still many don’t want to accept or know about, of that God offered Yeshua and got all to drink blood as they are all mad and why the house of Israel, was cut off for teachings directly opposed to the law (even if it was in the hopes of getting no one to follow Christ, it has done the complete opposite and turned all to their own paths Isaiah 53) .

Isa 56:11-12
(11) Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
(12) Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.

Next Habakkuk 2 needs going over and the proud drunken man, whom gathers all nations to him self that are not his to collect. That is not to attack Yeshua (yet does show not to base your trust in sand = “have faith in God&#8221, yet to relate the end of it, that the city built on blood-shed, shall come to nothing with its fake wooden idols…that is also in Revelations and a few other places……. the Revelation description goes far enough, for us to even see they will dress in scarlet and purple clothes, and there we have the Vatican, a city built on blood shed with purple and scarlet robes on.

So the mother of all harlots would teach peoples to worship or share your heart with something other then God, it is also related that it will get them to drink as it is there just due. So when the Bible has implied that is for sinners and the mad, then the daughters of the mother, are Christian churches.

Case closed….or maybe you would like me to just add that the person with the new of name of Christ, which is Sananda, or the name of the father Zan (=Zeus, Shinto, etc), or the mattock = Zan (ancient Hebrew), or the sword = Zanda (Sikh sword of honour), or Skanda (Gita = white horse men, military police, Fig), or Zan-Nun (Quran = name of Jonah) or Zinda Allahi (Quran sight of Allah), or golden pipes (Anointed ones = [FONT=&quot]tsantârâh =[/FONT]Zechariah) Anda …..dozen diadems = Crown (13 Dimensions)….

So whom do you kid, its not me, yet God! as I asked before the daft comments, as I knew I was sent from heaven since birth and why spent the time to give that material to digest, before I started saying any of that….yet as always most people choose to not read it or ignore it.

Ask questions and can give references, make daft comments and you shoot your self in the foot each time, its not clever and God does hear all I think, as you may not be aware; yet I watch things happen after thinking them, so be aware.
:angel2:

 

[sojourner]

It's a mistake to read into Old Testament prophecies the stories of the New Testament. It's not good scholarship, and it demeans the prophecies.

There is no "hidden meaning" conspiracy written into the Bible. That's tantamount to "DaVinci Code" fantasy. The Biblical writings are what they are. If we read into the scriptures what is not there, and pretend they're something that they're not, then we do the scriptures a great injustice.

 

[sojourner]

Just remember that we are all judged by the way we judge others.

And if we start discounting some of the bible, then we can discounting all of it.

This statement is over-generalized and over-simplified. There are many things written in the Bible that we can "discount" without throwing out everything.

 

[lunamoth]

It's a mistake to read into Old Testament prophecies the stories of the New Testament. It's not good scholarship, and it demeans the prophecies.

There is no "hidden meaning" conspiracy written into the Bible. That's tantamount to "DaVinci Code" fantasy. The Biblical writings are what they are. If we read into the scriptures what is not there, and pretend they're something that they're not, then we do the scriptures a great injustice.

Very true, and not to mention that we insult the entire Jewish religion.

 

[lunamoth]

And when the day of accountability comes, whether it's to God or conscience, they tell themselves "...I'll just tell God I thought I was doing the right thing".

It could be that when that moment comes one of the 'gifts' we will be given is totally clear understanding of our motivations and deeds.

 

[ChristineES]

This statement is over-generalized and over-simplified. There are many things written in the Bible that we can "discount" without throwing out everything.

I am sorry , but I just don't agree with you. Who is qualified to say that one book in the NT is false while another is true? I am not arrogant enough to do that but it seems there are some of you who are.

You should remember that anyone's opinion is not fact, not just including mine but yours as well.

 

[Quagmire]

It could be that when that moment comes one of the 'gifts' we will be given is totally clear understanding of our motivations and deeds.

If we're lucky that moment comes while we're still able to do something about it (although I doubt most people see it as a gift. At least initially).

I know quite a few "religious" people who would do practically anything to avoid that moment of clarity. In fact, their whole system of belief seems to be geared towards finding a socially acceptable alternative to facing themselves.

Problem is it only works on the most superficial level.

The conscience is a heavy, solid rock; it makes a great foundation if you're standing on it, but it's a millstone for anyone who trys to distance themselves from it *pulls up collar to hide rope burns*.

 

[Mister_T]

You know, I don't know why people make Christianity so complicated by cluttering it with all of these details. Christianity is real simple...........like a blueberry muffin (hear me out).

A blueberry muffin is simple: It smells good, it tastes good and it satisfies hunger. that is what people usually think of when they think about a blueberry muffin. Now, if you wanted to, you can make that same blueberry muffin complex by breaking down all of the ingredients and baking processes that go into making a muffin. And if you wanted to make extremly complicated, you could break it down even further by going into the chemistry of those ingredients. But these things are not necessary for the ultimate, end purpose of the muffin! Which is to eat something that tastes good to satisfy your hunger!

The funny thing is that people make Chrisianity as complicated as the chemistry of that muffin, even though it is not necessary and a waste of time. When all you need to is just eat it, and enjoy it. Two easy steps. Christianity is that simple. Jesus told us what we needed to do: Love God and love people as you would love yourself. Real simple!

Seriously people, just enjoy your muffin already

 

[Mister_T]

I guess nobody like muffins.