How to implement a 2 state solution?

[Shermana]

For all you supporters of the 2 state solution, how should it be done?

Should the Jews be kicked out/ethnically cleansed of Judea-Samaria? That's the Palestinian plan, how would one suggest them to change their minds?

Must the PA wait for "non fanatical" leaders before any peace process goes through? Should it go through with fanatical leaders in charge anyway?

Should Fatah and the PA be dismantled (along with their Al-Aqsa martyr's brigade official military wing who confirms that any peace gestures they make are lies and meant to buy time)? Should they be allowed to have whoever they want as a leader? Should they be bound to some kind of agreement? What happens if they break it?

Should Israel build a giant wall many miles long that makes the Berlin Wall look like a little fence?

Would a 2 state solution be fair since the Palestinians already have Jordan?

Should the second state be Jordan, with a simple transfer of the power from the Hashemite Tyrant to the Palestinian people who comprise the majority of this territory which sits on 80% of the Palestinian mandate and was only ever an Emirate (Province) of Mandatory Palestine until 1946?

What is a fair, effective, safe, and actually viable 2 state solution?

 

[F0uad]

Lol Shermana.

 

[BSM1]

How about giving the Palestinians France?

 

[Mathematician]

Give all of it to the Buddhists.

 

[beenie]

How about giving the Palestinians France?

No, they don't want France either.

I would rather the entire middle east be given to Israel than a single inch of Israel be given to Arabs. Israel has made enough concessions to terrorism.

That sounds fair.

 

[Shermana]

I imagine the entire Middle East ruled by Israel would probably see the average Arab's quality of life going drastically up. Just sayin'.

 

[Shermana]

*edit*

That would be more of a rectangle. But seriously, I'd avoid such crude imagery for people who's views you disagree with.

I mean, do you deny that statement? Would you like to explain why Israeli rule would NOT be economically better for the average Arab?

 

[Dingbat]

That would be more of a rectangle. But seriously, I'd avoid such crude imagery for people who's views you disagree with.

I pretty much call bigots out. This is nothing more than excuse to mock and deride people yet while oddly ignoring that the Two State solution is a popular solution within Israel. Is there a Jewish version of Stormfront where you two can just be outright bigots towards Arabs and Persians? Maybe get it out of your system and get on with life.

 

[Shermana]

I pretty much call bigots out. This is nothing more than excuse to mock and deride people yet while oddly ignoring that the Two State solution is a popular solution within Israel. Is there a Jewish version of Stormfront where you two can just be outright bigots towards Arabs and Persians? Maybe get it out of your system and get on with life.

I love being a bigot, there's nothing wrong with being a bigot, it simply means that you have an opinion and you're against those of a different, countering opinion. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just an empty buzz word that Liberals (notice only liberals really use the word) fling around like its somehow supposed to be offensive. You might as well call me a Polemecist.

Anyways, I added in an edit, perhaps you'd like to state what exactly is wrong with the statement: "The average Arab's lot would be improved dramatically under Israeli rule" or are you content to just call people names and make homoerotic inneundo? I think I'll make a thread about this.

I wish I could find a Jewish version of Stormfront that wasn't dominated by Messianic-hating JDL types.

 

[Dingbat]

I love being a bigot, there's nothing wrong with being a bigot, it simply means that you have an opinion and you're against those of a different, countering opinion. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just an empty buzz word that Liberals (notice only liberals really use the word) fling around like its somehow supposed to be offensive. You might as well call me a Polemecist.

Anyways, I added in an edit, perhaps you'd like to state what exactly is wrong with the statement: "The average Arab's lot would be improved dramatically under Israeli rule" or are you content to just call people names and make homoerotic inneundo? I think I'll make a thread about this.

I wish I could find a Jewish version of Stormfront that wasn't dominated by Messianic-hating JDL types.

Well at least you admit it. Disgusting.

 

[RisingKnowledge]

I love being a bigot, there's nothing wrong with being a bigot, it simply means that you have an opinion and you're against those of a different, countering opinion. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just an empty buzz word that Liberals (notice only liberals really use the word) fling around like its somehow supposed to be offensive. You might as well call me a Polemecist.

Anyways, I added in an edit, perhaps you'd like to state what exactly is wrong with the statement: "The average Arab's lot would be improved dramatically under Israeli rule" or are you content to just call people names and make homoerotic inneundo? I think I'll make a thread about this.

I wish I could find a Jewish version of Stormfront that wasn't dominated by Messianic-hating JDL types.

Wow just wow

Bigot
"a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".

 

[Shermana]

Well at least you admit it. Disgusting.

What's so disgusting about being a bigot?

PS, feel free to add a comment to my new thread, but try to actually have some substance if you can.

http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...39690-would-average-arab-much-better-off.html

Bigot
"a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".

And you're a bigot against my bigotry. You're being very intolerant of my intolerance of the intolerant.

Everyone's a bigot. Just most don't admit it.

PS Where did the above definition come from, it doesn't necessarily have to be about racial or ethnic group obviously. IT applies to virtually any member of any social group or holders of a belief. Basically Bigot = You have a negative opinion of someone or what they stand for for some reason because of what they do or believe and refuse to buckle under to social pressure.

 

[RisingKnowledge]

You're the one that sounds like a bigot. Not to mention a conspiracy nut. I guess that would make you a bigoted conspiracy nut.

You can't even answer a simple question. Shermana requested that you provided counter-evidence that Arabs living in a Jewish middle East wouldn't be better off in terms of freedom and quality of life, but all you can do is insult people like an angry little kid.

You're among the most intellectually dishonest trolls I've ever seen. At least with some of the trolls on the internet i've run into, they're just bonkers. You often know that you're not telling the truth, which makes you a liar.

He did?

I have read all your comments about Arabs and you are the bigot my friend.

 

[Shermana]

He did?

I have read all your comments about Arabs and you are the bigot my friend.

Why aren't you a bigot for being bigoted against his views?


I seriously don't understand why bigot is a bad word. Are we supposed to NOT have any hostile or intolerant opinions? Are we supposed to turn a blind eye to the facts if they may offend someone or reveal a particular trend among a demographic that is disagreeable? Do you not realize how this word can be applied to anyone and everyone for any reason of holding a conflicting view for any reason?

Usually the people who use the word "Bigot" are the most bigoted of all, and irrationally at that. It makes a great converation stopper. You hear someone say something you don't like, whether it's factual or not, simply yell BIGOT!!! and problem solved!

Anyways, back to the OP, we can take all this discussion over to the thread where it belongs to not keep derailing.

http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...39690-would-average-arab-much-better-off.html

And I'm going to make a thread for bigotry-related discussion, wait for link.

Here we go: Now everyone can post in the appropriate thread and we can get back to whether Israel can implement a 2 state solution or not.

http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...igot-whats-wrong-being-bigot.html#post3105838

 

[Pink Top Hat]

For all you supporters of the 2 state solution, how should it be done?

Should the Jews be kicked out/ethnically cleansed of Judea-Samaria? That's the Palestinian plan, how would one suggest them to change their minds?

Must the PA wait for "non fanatical" leaders before any peace process goes through? Should it go through with fanatical leaders in charge anyway?

Should Fatah and the PA be dismantled (along with their Al-Aqsa martyr's brigade official military wing who confirms that any peace gestures they make are lies and meant to buy time)? Should they be allowed to have whoever they want as a leader? Should they be bound to some kind of agreement? What happens if they break it?

Should Israel build a giant wall many miles long that makes the Berlin Wall look like a little fence?

Would a 2 state solution be fair since the Palestinians already have Jordan?

Should the second state be Jordan, with a simple transfer of the power from the Hashemite Tyrant to the Palestinian people who comprise the majority of this territory which sits on 80% of the Palestinian mandate and was only ever an Emirate (Province) of Mandatory Palestine until 1946?

What is a fair, effective, safe, and actually viable 2 state solution?

Waste of time to make this thread because Israel has no intention of a two state solution. Put on your TV. Israel is now planning WW3 and with their lunatic American friends the 'rapture'

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I pretty much call bigots out. This is nothing more than excuse to mock and deride people yet while oddly ignoring that the Two State solution is a popular solution within Israel. Is there a Jewish version of Stormfront where you two can just be outright bigots towards Arabs and Persians? Maybe get it out of your system and get on with life.

Exactly.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I love being a bigot, there's nothing wrong with being a bigot, ...

Well at least you admit it. Disgusting.

... and cancerous.

 

[BSM1]

At the risk of sounding like a bigot myself consider this: the Palestinians are a conquered people. Like the Native Americans they should accept this fact. Also, like the Native Americans, they should capitalize on this situation by opening casinos and selling tax-free cigarettes instead of waging a suicidal war.

 

[Flankerl]

I wish I could find a Jewish version of Stormfront that wasn't dominated by Messianic-hating JDL types.

Hah thats funny.

Now that you mention it the JDL sounds much more loveable.

 

[Dingbat]

... and cancerous.

Indeed, sadly this behavior on both sides of the aisle is largely the reason peace processes continue to be in a rut.