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Humility

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
...a meditation by Don Schwager

Who wants to be last? Isn't it only natural to desire respect and esteem from others? Jesus' parable of the guests invited to the marriage feast probes our motives for seeking honor and position. Self-promotion is most often achieved at the expense of others! Jesus' parable reinforces the teaching of Proverbs: Do not put yourself forward in the king's presence or stand in the place of the great; for it is better to be told,"Come up here," than to be put lower in the presence of the prince (Proverbs25:6-7).
What is true humility and why should we make it a characteristic mark of our life and action? True humility is not feeling bad about yourself, or having a low opinion of yourself, or thinking of yourself as inferior to others. True humility frees us from preoccupation with ourselves, where as a low self-opinion tends to focus our attention on ourselves. Humility is truth in self-understanding and truth in action. Viewing ourselves truthfully, with sober judgment, means seeing ourselves the way God sees us (Psalm139:1-4). A humble person makes a realistic assessment of himself or herself without illusion or pretense to be something he or she is not. The humble regard themselves neither smaller nor larger than they truly are. True humility frees us to be our true selves and to avoid despair and pride. A humble person does not have to wear a mask or put on a facade in order to look good to others, especially to those who are not really familiar with that person. The humble are not swayed by accidentals, such as fame, reputation, success, or failure. Humility is the queen or foundation of all the other virtues because it enables us to view and judge ourselves correctly, the way God sees us. Humility leads to true self-knowledge, honesty, realism, strength, and dedication to give ourselves to something greater than ourselves. Humility frees us to love and serve others selflessly, for their sake, rather than our own. Paul the Apostle, gives us the greatest example and model of humility in the person of Jesus Christ, who emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, ...who humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross (Philippians 2:7-8). The Lord Jesus gives grace to those who seek him humbly. Do you want to be a servant as Jesus served?
"Lord Jesus, you became a servant for my sake to set me free from the tyranny of sin, selfishness, and conceit. Help me to be humble as you are humble and to love freely and graciously all whom you call me to serve."
This reflection is courtesy of Don Schwager (c) 2011, whose website is located at Daily Scripture Readings and Meditations .
 

Abishai100

Member
The Battle Lines of Instinct



Humility is the opposite of vanity and this contention defines the real contours of serious war.

I like using the two folk avatars Shiva and Pennywise to talk about war.

Shiva is the Hindu god of destruction and meditation.

Pennywise is the demonic clown from the iconic American horror novel It (Stephen King).

Shiva represents power balanced with self-control, while Pennywise represents the anarchism associated with wrath and criminality.

Shiva is thought to be able to manage the instincts that lead the mind towards self-indulgence, while Pennywise represents a dark indulgence in the dark instincts of the mind (i.e., violence, cynicism, filth, etc.).

Since Shiva moderates self-indulgence, he can be considered to be a master of humility, while Pennywise caters to base instincts and can therefore be considered a minister of vanity.

The Bible says, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth" (Matthew 5). For our modern age of capitalism-gauged gluttonies (i.e., Burger King, Wall Street, etc.), vanity can lead men towards unmitigated profiteerism and self-indulgence. The American comic book super-villain Condiment King is a nemesis of the heroic Batman (DC Comics) and wields guns filled with mustard and ketchup as symbols of anti-social self-indulgent cynicism.

We could try to understand what Shiva and Pennywise would say about a Western pop culture avatar such as the unusual capitalism-commentating Condiment King.

For example:

Shiva --- "The Condiment King must be crude."
Pennywise --- "The Condiment King must be annoying."

To suggest that the Condiment King is crude is to humbly suggest that the villain's cynical outlook is difficult to embrace from the perspective of personal discomfort. To suggest that the Condiment King is annoying is to make the claim of vanity that cynicism is natural.

I think Jesus would say that the Condiment King is a symbol of hopelessness.



Shiva

Pennywise



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ThirtyThree

Well-Known Member
True humility is not feeling bad about yourself, or having a low opinion of yourself, or thinking of yourself as inferior to others. True humility frees us from preoccupation with ourselves, where as a low self-opinion tends to focus our attention on ourselves. Humility is truth in self-understanding and truth in action. Viewing ourselves truthfully, with sober judgment, means seeing ourselves the way God sees us (Psalm139:1-4). A humble person makes a realistic assessment of himself or herself without illusion or pretense to be something he or she is not. The humble regard themselves neither smaller nor larger than they truly are.

The lack of pretense is exhaustingly important in my faith.
I must never claim what I have not earned and I must never wear the robes not of my degree. I must never see myself greater or less than I am. If I were to see my value as that if vermin or filthy rags before my deity then my deity would have nothing to do with me. I fully agree on the importance and your definition of humility. From the Bible, correct? Great post and I hope it is acceptable I posted here? I am rather certain my post follows DIR rules. It is a respectful comment in my opinion?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I'd like to add a verse about Ego at Philippians 2:3 to consider others as superior.

Jesus too stressed being willing to serve others, rather than to be served - Matthew 20:26-28
 
When I think of humility I think of St Gregory the Great who was Pope from 590-604. Throughout his pontificate he referred to himself as "Servant of the Servants of God".

He was the Pope but put all above himself and served everyone.
 

Deidre

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I sometimes wonder about humility in terms of pride. Is it wrong to take pride in one's accomplishments? There are times when I get offended by people, not super offended, just offended ...and I wonder if that is also a bad thing, if that 'contradicts' humility? Because in a way, pride is a protection of one's ego, is it not?
 
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