Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton -- can anyone enlighten me?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Every time the question of whether Donald Trump might have done something naughty, the knee-jerk response seems to be "why isn't anybody investigating Hunter Biden" or " why didn't Hillary Clinton get indicted?"

But being just a poor ignorant Canadian, up here in the frozen north with my friends the elks and (only during summer) the loons, I don't really get what they did that so offends the other side.

I mean, I get it that Biden may have used the famous name of his father (a VP) to ingratiate himself in businesses overseas that thought he might be able to help them. But, isn't "Trump" a name, used for the same purpose? I need to understand the difference.

And what was it that Hillary is really supposed to have done that she should be charged for?

Republicans, I ask you to help me understand why Hunter and Hillary are so bad, and how it is that Donald remains beyond reproach for any similar activities.

Please be advised, I am willing to allow that if any of them really did something illegal, they should be indicted, and if any of them really did something immoral, they should be held at least morally accountable by the rest of us. But please remember, as you justify one or another of them, that I prefer that the same rules apply to everybody.

 

[Revoltingest]

Every time the question of whether Donald Trump might have done something naughty, the knee-jerk response seems to be "why isn't anybody investigating Hunter Biden" or " why didn't Hillary Clinton get indicted?"

But being just a poor ignorant Canadian, up here in the frozen north with my friends the elks and (only during summer) the loons, I don't really get what they did that so offends the other side.

I mean, I get it that Biden may have used the famous name of his father (a VP) to ingratiate himself in businesses overseas that thought he might be able to help them. But, isn't "Trump" a name, used for the same purpose? I need to understand the difference.

And what was it that Hillary is really supposed to have done that she should be charged for?

Republicans, I ask you to help me understand why Hunter and Hillary are so bad, and how it is that Donald remains beyond reproach for any similar activities.

Please be advised, I am willing to allow that if any of them really did something illegal, they should be indicted, and if any of them really did something immoral, they should be held at least morally accountable by the rest of us. But please remember, as you justify one or another of them, that I prefer that the same rules apply to everybody.

Trump, Hunter, Hillary...alle gute sind drei.
(All good things come in three.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Trump, Hunter, Hillary...alle gute sind drei.
(All good things come in three.

That's only because, believing things come in three, we stop counting, then start again.

I mean really, why is everything you lose found only in the last place you look?

 

[Revoltingest]

That's only because, believing things come in three, we stop counting, then start again.

I mean really, why is everything you lose found only in the last place you look?

I haven't lost anything since the last time.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I mean really, why is everything you lose found only in the last place you look?

Such a talented thingy finder you are!

 

[Nakosis]

Every time the question of whether Donald Trump might have done something naughty, the knee-jerk response seems to be "why isn't anybody investigating Hunter Biden" or " why didn't Hillary Clinton get indicted?"

But being just a poor ignorant Canadian, up here in the frozen north with my friends the elks and (only during summer) the loons, I don't really get what they did that so offends the other side.

I mean, I get it that Biden may have used the famous name of his father (a VP) to ingratiate himself in businesses overseas that thought he might be able to help them. But, isn't "Trump" a name, used for the same purpose? I need to understand the difference.

And what was it that Hillary is really supposed to have done that she should be charged for?

Republicans, I ask you to help me understand why Hunter and Hillary are so bad, and how it is that Donald remains beyond reproach for any similar activities.

Please be advised, I am willing to allow that if any of them really did something illegal, they should be indicted, and if any of them really did something immoral, they should be held at least morally accountable by the rest of us. But please remember, as you justify one or another of them, that I prefer that the same rules apply to everybody.

I imagine because none of them will ever be convicted of a crime.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

Just mostly fascist propaganda and grandstanding.

 

[We Never Know]

That's only because, believing things come in three, we stop counting, then start again.

I mean really, why is everything you lose found only in the last place you look?

"I mean really, why is everything you lose found only in the last place you look?"

Once you found it, why would you keep looking? Hence its always in the last place you look because once you find it, you quit looking lol.

 

[Truth in love]

Every time the question of whether Donald Trump might have done something naughty, the knee-jerk response seems to be "why isn't anybody investigating Hunter Biden" or " why didn't Hillary Clinton get indicted?"

But being just a poor ignorant Canadian, up here in the frozen north with my friends the elks and (only during summer) the loons, I don't really get what they did that so offends the other side.

I mean, I get it that Biden may have used the famous name of his father (a VP) to ingratiate himself in businesses overseas that thought he might be able to help them. But, isn't "Trump" a name, used for the same purpose? I need to understand the difference.

And what was it that Hillary is really supposed to have done that she should be charged for?

Republicans, I ask you to help me understand why Hunter and Hillary are so bad, and how it is that Donald remains beyond reproach for any similar activities.

Please be advised, I am willing to allow that if any of them really did something illegal, they should be indicted, and if any of them really did something immoral, they should be held at least morally accountable by the rest of us. But please remember, as you justify one or another of them, that I prefer that the same rules apply to everybody.

Defensiveness is a common, but unhelpful reaction.

I think the 30,000 or so violations of the espionage act is the main thing people are talking about with Clinton. There also a good sized trail of bodies (car accidents, multiple self inflicted guns shots to the back of the head etc. along her political career, but that is less clear. Maybe her campaign giving a job to the DNC head who had to resign for sabotaging Sanders primary run. Then there is the shaming of her husbands sexual assault victims. I think that covers the more common ones.

For the Biden's I think Joe extorting the Ukraine to protect him and his son is the go to, the over priced paintings, the money funneling and then lying about it. There also the history of sexual assaults and wrecking the nomination of the first black women to the supreme court.

Washington D.C makes Mos Eisley look like petting zoo in terms of scum and villainy. The average Senator is making nearly 3 million a year on the side. Clinton and Biden both have very obvious money funnel scams though family and foundations. I mean why else would hunter be on the board of a company in a foreign land where he does not speak the language or know the industry.

Trump is a far cry from saintly, but as it typical each side only has an issue with the errors of their opponents.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I imagine because none of them will ever be convicted of a crime.

Alas (especially in Trump's case) I suspect you are right.

However, also in Trump's case, the extreme reluctance of DOJ to indict a former President, any sitting President would not be incorrect to suppose that -- come election time, or when he has friends to really reward (wink, wink) -- he can do what he likes with impunity. That is part of the slippery slope upon which your democracy totters.

 

[tytlyf]

I think the 30,000 or so violations of the espionage act is the main thing people are talking about with Clinton.

Answers are out there if you would look

Lawyers: Legal precedent clears Clinton in email investigation
New details on 2016 Russia probe prompt flawed allegations of espionage

 

[Truth in love]

Answers are out there if you would look

Lawyers: Legal precedent clears Clinton in email investigation
New details on 2016 Russia probe prompt flawed allegations of espionage

Answers are out there if you would look

Lawyers: Legal precedent clears Clinton in email investigation
New details on 2016 Russia probe prompt flawed allegations of espionage

I think we call this evil. The entire server was set up to hide her emails from public review. It’s not negligent it’s criminal. But when you have an ally who concluded you were innocent before the investigation it not a surprise.

 

[tytlyf]

I think we call this evil. The entire server was set up to hide her emails from public review. It’s not negligent it’s criminal. But when you have an ally who concluded you were innocent before the investigation it not a surprise.

That's your opinion. At the end of the day, she's been attacked by Republicans for decades. It's all political noise.

 

[metis]

For someone to claim that Trump is more moral than
Biden and Hillary would be hilariously laughable if it wasn't so terribly misguided.

Hillary's e-mails were not criminal, and Hunter Biden and his father have never been charged with a crime, so all we see with some is the same old "Lock her up!" dishonesty.

 

[Truth in love]

That's your opinion. At the end of the day, she's been attacked by Republicans for decades. It's all political noise.

There is a lot of political noise and a lot of evidence that she willfully violated the law.

 

[tytlyf]

There is a lot of political noise and a lot of evidence that she willfully violated the law.

Where's the evidence?

 

[Truth in love]

Where's the evidence?

That she set up a server without the right safeties and booted the law like 30,000 times?

Where's the evidence?

A Full List of Hillary Clinton’s Crimes


there a site with a decent run down. Many of these events were covered in the news when they happened.

 

[Callisto]

Every time the question of whether Donald Trump might have done something naughty, the knee-jerk response seems to be "why isn't anybody investigating Hunter Biden" or " why didn't Hillary Clinton get indicted?"

But being just a poor ignorant Canadian, up here in the frozen north with my friends the elks and (only during summer) the loons, I don't really get what they did that so offends the other side.

I mean, I get it that Biden may have used the famous name of his father (a VP) to ingratiate himself in businesses overseas that thought he might be able to help them. But, isn't "Trump" a name, used for the same purpose? I need to understand the difference.

And what was it that Hillary is really supposed to have done that she should be charged for?

Republicans, I ask you to help me understand why Hunter and Hillary are so bad, and how it is that Donald remains beyond reproach for any similar activities.

Please be advised, I am willing to allow that if any of them really did something illegal, they should be indicted, and if any of them really did something immoral, they should be held at least morally accountable by the rest of us. But please remember, as you justify one or another of them, that I prefer that the same rules apply to everybody.

Sadly, whataboutism is the go-to for far too many people who can't handle being called out for the corruption they deliberately support.

 

[Aštra’el]

During our Presidential elections… “morality” has nothing to do with why I vote for who I do. There is no “right” or “wrong”, there is no “good” or “evil”, and there is no “shoulds” or “should nots”. I vote for whoever I find to be the strongest leader… who loves and respects America, who is proud of America, who is willing to embody America, who I find most effective at strengthening America while preserving what makes America great.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

During our Presidential elections… “morality” has nothing to do with why I vote for who I do. There is no “right” or “wrong”, there is no “good” or “evil”, and there is no “shoulds” or “should nots”. I vote for whoever I find to be the strongest leader… who loves and respects America, who is proud of America, who is willing to embody America, who I find most effective at strengthening America while preserving what makes America great.

Then we can assume you just don't vote?