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I’m a Young Turks fan but....

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Can any right wingers fact check that he was not a right winger? Can any on the right explain why this individual did this or contradict Cenk?

 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm no expert in drama, but I think the moment I hear Cenk Uygur or the Young Turks open their mouths is when I'm supposed to facepalm and cry in anguish.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Clearly jumping to conclusions. We can't say for certain they even have the right guy -- they've made mistakes before; they've even been known to frame, assassinate and spin untrue propaganda.
At this point it's probably a safe bet to assume that most of what we're hearing is just rumor and gossip.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
It's still early, but a few observations IF (and that is a big if)what I have read so far is true.

- he has a criminal record, if he is a convicted felon he couldn't vote from what I understand.

- Doesn't appear to be a White Nationalist, Cesar is a popular name in Cuba.

Speculation (probably wrong but it is as good as anyone else's)

Could it be that a Cuban American that hated communism because of what he or his parents went through at their hands somehow wrongly project that onto American democrats?Is it possible that the frustration of not feeling able to change the system through his vote was a factor in him lashing out in other ways?
 

Sanzbir

Well-Known Member
I find their choice of network name bizarre. Might as well call a news station "Hitler Youth". :p

I like some of their members, though, as cringey as their name may be.

- Doesn't appear to be a White Nationalist, Cesar is a popular name in Cuba.

Looks like from some social media posts that Cesar at least claims to be Seminole. A number of posts about how the Seminole Nation will never fall.

Edit: Oh, now I see reporting that the Seminole Tribe says he's not a member. So likely he just identifies with them due to ancestry or presumed ancestry. Either way, someone that open about claimed Native heritage probably isn't a white supremacist.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Looks like from some social media posts that Cesar at least claims to be Seminole. A number of posts about how the Seminole Nation will never fall.
Edit: Oh, now I see reporting that the Seminole Tribe says he's not a member. So likely he just identifies with them due to ancestry or presumed ancestry. Either way, someone that open about claimed Native heritage probably isn't a white supremacist.

Interesting and agreed, he might just identify or may actually have Seminole blood in him but it depends on each individual tribe to create the criteria they follow to accept someone as a tribe member. From what I understand some tribes require at least 1/4 and some as little as 1/16 but still the individual will be reviewed and a determination made as their fitness as a tribe member and then it is up to a council to vote them in or not. Even if someone meets the Native blood requirement and might seem a good fit the tribal council may feel that they do not need any more members at that time since more members equal less for everyone, there is no guarantee of acceptance.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Normally, I wouldn't trust Cenk to get much of anything straight, but in this case, I can't find any factual claim he's making about the bombs or the alleged bomber that has not been reported by other, more reliable, sources.

Of course, it's a matter of debate how much responsibility Trump has for these bombings. Cenk seems pretty sure he bears quite a bit of responsibility because of his rhetoric.
 
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