Pogo
Well-Known Member
Yes he is a doer, he's done multiple bankruptcies and frauds and sexual assaults, generally we put such doers in the world out of the way of the general public.
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I am done with Trump discussions
- Thread starter Clizby Wampuscat
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It depends on how one defines the "first white criminal." Most of the past U.S. Presidents have been white, and some of them were probably criminals. Certainly, Nixon was one.
And many Presidents in the 19th century were slaveowners and aggressive expansionists, so that might be regarded as "criminal," even if it wasn't technically against the law back then.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That depends on his appeals and most don't care about his private life. What people want is his policymaking and Trump already has an effective positive record from his first term.
Listen! Just bloody LISTEN to Trump's rhetoric -- on Fox:
Look into your heart -- do you really believe that your neighbors, the people you work with, your kids' friends, the nurses and doctors who treat you, the shopkeepers you see daily, the teachers who prepare your heirs to face the life ahead -- do you really believe, as Trump says, that they are the real danger you have to face? That these are the people you should be siccing your bloody military on?!?
Because that's what he's telling you! He is trying to make you frightened of absolutely everything, while pretending that your only hope of safety is the amazing Donald Trump!! This is the very perfect example of a demagogue trying to divide you so that he can conquer you!
Are you really going to bloody let him? Really?
"I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We've got very bad people and sick people, radical left and lunatics. It should be easily handled, if necessary by national guard, or if really necessary the military. They can't let that happen. We have two enemies. The outside enemy and the enemy from within. The enemy from within is more dangerous than China, Russia and these countries."
Look into your heart -- do you really believe that your neighbors, the people you work with, your kids' friends, the nurses and doctors who treat you, the shopkeepers you see daily, the teachers who prepare your heirs to face the life ahead -- do you really believe, as Trump says, that they are the real danger you have to face? That these are the people you should be siccing your bloody military on?!?
Because that's what he's telling you! He is trying to make you frightened of absolutely everything, while pretending that your only hope of safety is the amazing Donald Trump!! This is the very perfect example of a demagogue trying to divide you so that he can conquer you!
Are you really going to bloody let him? Really?
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Found this and thought it was interesting. Trump's popularity analysed from a psychological viewpoint.
TLDR:
"When we put it all together, these figures tell us something important about leadership in general and about the 2016 leadership contest. They underline the point that leadership is never about the character of individuals as individuals. This is the “old psychology of leadership” that our own theoretical and empirical analysis has called into question. Instead leadership is about individuals as group members—whose success hinges on their capacity to create, represent, advance and embed a shared sense of “us.”
Reflecting on the implications of this analysis for the specifics of this election, we can see that many Trump voters knew full well that their man was a reprobate, that they deplored his crudities and that they saw him as a risky choice. And yet in a world where the system is seen to be against “us” and where things appear to be driven in the wrong direction by “them,” the really irrational thing to do is to vote for the conventional candidate who represents sticking with that system."
- Trump's Appeal: What Psychology Tells Us
TLDR:
"When we put it all together, these figures tell us something important about leadership in general and about the 2016 leadership contest. They underline the point that leadership is never about the character of individuals as individuals. This is the “old psychology of leadership” that our own theoretical and empirical analysis has called into question. Instead leadership is about individuals as group members—whose success hinges on their capacity to create, represent, advance and embed a shared sense of “us.”
Reflecting on the implications of this analysis for the specifics of this election, we can see that many Trump voters knew full well that their man was a reprobate, that they deplored his crudities and that they saw him as a risky choice. And yet in a world where the system is seen to be against “us” and where things appear to be driven in the wrong direction by “them,” the really irrational thing to do is to vote for the conventional candidate who represents sticking with that system."
- Trump's Appeal: What Psychology Tells Us
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You mean his policies that were heading us back towards a recession?
Balthazzar
N. Germanic Descent
Buckle up? I may, metaphorically speaking, but I'm not sure how successful my security efforts will be longer term or short.
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Alien826
No religious beliefs
This is how I see it. Imagine a ship, sailing around the ocean. There are two sets of officers that periodically take and lose power, and when they do the ship starts moving in a different direction. Until lately that mattered somewhat, but in general the life on the ship went on pretty much the same. Now, there is a group of people busily drilling holes in the hull of the ship, and one group of officers, rather than slapping them in the brig, is actively supporting them.
I'm frightened, because I'm a passenger on the ship and I don't think the pumps will work well enough to keep the ship afloat.
I'm frightened, because I'm a passenger on the ship and I don't think the pumps will work well enough to keep the ship afloat.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
What's the problem, if we lighten the ship it will go faster.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
The fact is that there are not enough well educated SKILLED workers to go around.
It would take many years to reverse this situation, but who would pay for it, or set it up.
Top skilled educated stem Chines are returning home in droves.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
If America wants to keep its position at the top a little longer and maintain its hegemony. Then neither candidate has anything to offer, though Harris would give a softer landing.
Tariffs and bans as per Trump and Biden, if continued, will ensure the USA's demise. As they are boosting China And BRICS rise.
The USA's middle eastern policies and unconditional support of Israel are further damaging American prospects and reputation.
Neither candidate has offered any sort of solution to these problems.
Unfortunately foreign policy comes way down the list of American voters priorities. Even though they are the foundation of their wealth.
Tariffs and bans as per Trump and Biden, if continued, will ensure the USA's demise. As they are boosting China And BRICS rise.
The USA's middle eastern policies and unconditional support of Israel are further damaging American prospects and reputation.
Neither candidate has offered any sort of solution to these problems.
Unfortunately foreign policy comes way down the list of American voters priorities. Even though they are the foundation of their wealth.
Eeek! I just confirmed this from the right leaning The Hill
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's just a pile of malarkey. If it was the previous president it was probably for the first year, but it's been three and a half now.
I'm not sure if you get the show Letterkenny down there, but there's an episode where they find out that a guy in town once had sex with an ostrich (allegedy). Once this comes out, it's the most relevant thing about him in any conversation.
Supporting treason is kinda like that. It's always going to be relevant... partly for its noteworthiness on its own, but also because it establishes how low the bar is for what you'll accept ("you'll **** an ostrich but you won't do _____?").
And that's for someone who supported treason once. Trump supporters now are like guys who not only ****ed an ostrich a while back but are now vocal about their plans to **** an ostrich again soon. It's going to be the topic of conversation.
Wirey
Fartist
If Trump wins, I am moving to Canada! I'm Canadian, so it's a short drive, but still.
Speaking of toxic…..
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I still love ya Canucks!
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
My evidence is in my OP. They were wrong on the last two elections. That is what my comment was about.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
Have a great day!