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I can't imagine my life without religion

Kapalika

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Something I've observed about myself since I was very young, but it seems I've always had an affinity for the spiritual. I remember a lot of my childhood I was captivated by the supernatural, death and ghosts. I seemed to have some intuitive belief and in my teens this manifested as flights of thoughts in a hyper focused state where I found myself exploring my core beliefs about God.

I wasn't raised religious but I was exposed to a lot of religion in my teenage years, particularly later, although I always found the forms of it around me to be a malicious force. This did nothing to dissuade my own spiritual experience however which was with me since my earliest memories. When I found the term "pantheism" I found it fit better than any other term I had come across before and I feel it's the least wrong term even now.

In a lot of ways I think if the person I was 10 years ago saw me now she would be horrified by not just my beliefs but my views on things and style, but deep down would know that this is her dark destiny. I don't think my religion ever exactly changed, well, more so I found my path when I was in my very late teens and that has slowly evolved. I think really the only thing that's changed in my beliefs since then is a shift in attitudes and I am less theistic, and have a skepticism towards phenomena claims that I didn't then. Everything else has built off of the rest, not replaced it. I've found overtime the system is almost fractal in a way, but more so akin to trying to visualize a tesseract when all you got is a 2D drawing (this is more literal when it comes to some of my Yantra work).

But whenever ideas of god, religion ect come up I always find that people draw lines more along language. This is no less true when I talk about how I consider myself deeply religious. Some don't, because I also consider myself a nontheist and when I explain my beliefs I am sometimes accused of being an atheist (when I'm not accused of being a theist trying to be an atheist).

Anyways my point is, religion has contextualized(perhaps even shaped) my life in such an intimate way. That journey in the last 10 years? Almost all the major events of any importance in my mind all tie to religion. Religion is in my blood and as much as I love music I find it reflects my spiritual and religious state. I live for my religion and I can't live without it. It's become such a deep part of me that imagining being without it is like imagining a void carved into my torso. I am my relation with the divine. I am my gods, my religion, I am the sum but also greater than the sum of my experiences, and I am my nature. I am me. I am religious.

Part of what I find brings me great understanding in my beliefs is the fact that Shiva has domain over all light and dark, pleasant and unpleasant. It's nondual nature means that I can contextualize anything within the scope of the religious experience. You see, religion to me isn't just what you believe, your ethics or how you behave. It's not just your reality it's your experience both within and beyond normal consciousness. It's a meta-self, so to speak, acting perfectly in concert with all of it's parts.. One phrase I've used before is that religion to me is "meta-art" but it's more than that... art can be fictional, but religion isn't, at least not my religion to me. It's as much real as the air I breathe and just as intuitive. Everything becomes this higher state for me, and I I more often reach these states of ananda

So I can't only not imagine my life without religion, I can't imagine living without my religion!

Anyways, just some random thoughts. I'm totally out of almost been up for 3 days with barely any sleep haha. If you know where I'm coming from and feel something similar, or you have your own view of religion and how it's shaped your life for the better, please do share! This is just my experience I hope to hear from a lot of ya'll and how it's shaped, contextualized or reflected your experience and journey.
 
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Something I've observed about myself since I was very young, but it seems I've always had an affinity for the spiritual. I remember a lot of my childhood I was captivated by the supernatural, death and ghosts. I seemed to have some intuitive belief and in my teens this manifested as flights of thoughts in a hyper focused state where I found myself exploring my core beliefs about God.

I wasn't raised religious but I was exposed to a lot of religion in my teenage years, particularly later, although I always found the forms of it around me to be a malicious force. This did nothing to dissuade my own spiritual experience however which was with me since my earliest memories. When I found the term "pantheism" I found it fit better than any other term I had come across before and I feel it's the least wrong term even now.

In a lot of ways I think if the person I was 10 years ago saw me now she would be horrified by not just my beliefs but my views on things and style, but deep down would know that this is her dark destiny. I don't think my religion ever exactly changed, well, more so I found my path when I was in my very late teens and that has slowly evolved. I think really the only thing that's changed in my beliefs since then is a shift in attitudes and I am less theistic, and have a skepticism towards phenomena claims that I didn't then. Everything else has built off of the rest, not replaced it. I've found overtime the system is almost fractal in a way, but more so akin to trying to visualize a tesseract when all you got is a 2D drawing (this is more literal when it comes to some of my Yantra work).

But whenever ideas of god, religion ect come up I always find that people draw lines more along language. This is no less true when I talk about how I consider myself deeply religious. Some don't, because I also consider myself a nontheist and when I explain my beliefs I am sometimes accused of being an atheist (when I'm not accused of being a theist trying to be an atheist).

Anyways my point is, religion has contextualized(perhaps even shaped) my life in such an intimate way. That journey in the last 10 years? Almost all the major events of any importance in my mind all tie to religion. Religion is in my blood and as much as I love music I find it reflects my spiritual and religious state. I live for my religion and I can't live without it. It's become such a deep part of me that imagining being without it is like imagining a void carved into my torso. I am my relation with the divine. I am my gods, my religion, I am the sum but also greater than the sum of my experiences, and I am my nature. I am me. I am religious.

Part of what I find brings me great understanding in my beliefs is the fact that Shiva has domain over all light and dark, pleasant and unpleasant. It's nondual nature means that I can contextualize anything within the scope of the religious experience. You see, religion to me isn't just what you believe, your ethics or how you behave. It's not just your reality it's your experience both within and beyond normal consciousness. It's a meta-self, so to speak, acting perfectly in concert with all of it's parts.. One phrase I've used before is that religion to me is "meta-art" but it's more than that... art can be fictional, but religion isn't, at least not my religion to me. It's as much real as the air I breathe and just as intuitive. Everything becomes this higher state for me, and I I more often reach these states of ananda

So I can't only not imagine my life without religion, I can't imagine living without my religion!

Anyways, just some random thoughts. I'm totally out of almost been up for 3 days with barely any sleep haha. If you know where I'm coming from and feel something similar, or you have your own view of religion and how it's shaped your life for the better, please do share! This is just my experience I hope to hear from a lot of ya'll and how it's shaped, contextualized or reflected your experience and journey.

Nice.

For me, I found different parts of religion (by strick definition) very helpful in living spirituality as my life. I found devotion through catholicism and truth/fact of life in The Dharma which helps with knowledge and intepretation of that knowledge of suffering, life, death, and its cessation/nibanna.

Unothrodox in what most think of religion, I remember. I remember when I was a child, my father and I would go hiking in the woods. I was a rock fanatice; I love nature. I read A LOT, wrote, and drew. I love music and try to play it. A was lost after brain surgery when my art side just disapleared.

Religion tells me:

Ritual and tradition that I apply to my life's purpose. I started using art for healing in 2016ish. Now I have journal visual arts everywhere, a keyboard, and started reading again. My vision is to live a art lifestyle (you know the ones where people live in their art studios).

The tradition is I got a lot of this from father who wrote a book he never got published. I got painting and music from my mother. My aunt and her son both have published books they put up on amazon.

What else?

Religion gives me a sense of wholeness. When Im emersed in any of my art mediums, my life lights up. I fully express myself. No limits. No censoring. Just me.

Catholism taught me by experience and example the importance or religion and how it can be lived by community and by self. I learned from The Dharma the reasons I want to heal based on its teachings of suffering and mortality.

Religion isnt an isolated word that makes people do routine cold rituals. Like your OP it does something more.

If freedom of expression was defined "as" god, I would say:

God is the food we eat
The water we drink
The air we breathe
The earth we trod and die on
The speak we spoke
The dreams we drempt
In the everywhere and the eveything

"In some religion, there is no word for god. It isnt that god isnt there. God is self evident. God is assumed. God is so present in everyday life that god Is life itself." -Anynomous
 
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EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Something I've observed about myself since I was very young, but it seems I've always had an affinity for the spiritual. I remember a lot of my childhood I was captivated by the supernatural, death and ghosts. I seemed to have some intuitive belief and in my teens this manifested as flights of thoughts in a hyper focused state where I found myself exploring my core beliefs about God.

I wasn't raised religious but I was exposed to a lot of religion in my teenage years, particularly later, although I always found the forms of it around me to be a malicious force. This did nothing to dissuade my own spiritual experience however which was with me since my earliest memories. When I found the term "pantheism" I found it fit better than any other term I had come across before and I feel it's the least wrong term even now.

In a lot of ways I think if the person I was 10 years ago saw me now she would be horrified by not just my beliefs but my views on things and style, but deep down would know that this is her dark destiny. I don't think my religion ever exactly changed, well, more so I found my path when I was in my very late teens and that has slowly evolved. I think really the only thing that's changed in my beliefs since then is a shift in attitudes and I am less theistic, and have a skepticism towards phenomena claims that I didn't then. Everything else has built off of the rest, not replaced it. I've found overtime the system is almost fractal in a way, but more so akin to trying to visualize a tesseract when all you got is a 2D drawing (this is more literal when it comes to some of my Yantra work).

But whenever ideas of god, religion ect come up I always find that people draw lines more along language. This is no less true when I talk about how I consider myself deeply religious. Some don't, because I also consider myself a nontheist and when I explain my beliefs I am sometimes accused of being an atheist (when I'm not accused of being a theist trying to be an atheist).

Anyways my point is, religion has contextualized(perhaps even shaped) my life in such an intimate way. That journey in the last 10 years? Almost all the major events of any importance in my mind all tie to religion. Religion is in my blood and as much as I love music I find it reflects my spiritual and religious state. I live for my religion and I can't live without it. It's become such a deep part of me that imagining being without it is like imagining a void carved into my torso. I am my relation with the divine. I am my gods, my religion, I am the sum but also greater than the sum of my experiences, and I am my nature. I am me. I am religious.

Part of what I find brings me great understanding in my beliefs is the fact that Shiva has domain over all light and dark, pleasant and unpleasant. It's nondual nature means that I can contextualize anything within the scope of the religious experience. You see, religion to me isn't just what you believe, your ethics or how you behave. It's not just your reality it's your experience both within and beyond normal consciousness. It's a meta-self, so to speak, acting perfectly in concert with all of it's parts.. One phrase I've used before is that religion to me is "meta-art" but it's more than that... art can be fictional, but religion isn't, at least not my religion to me. It's as much real as the air I breathe and just as intuitive. Everything becomes this higher state for me, and I I more often reach these states of ananda

So I can't only not imagine my life without religion, I can't imagine living without my religion!

Anyways, just some random thoughts. I'm totally out of almost been up for 3 days with barely any sleep haha. If you know where I'm coming from and feel something similar, or you have your own view of religion and how it's shaped your life for the better, please do share! This is just my experience I hope to hear from a lot of ya'll and how it's shaped, contextualized or reflected your experience and journey.
Back in 1968 when I was eight years old I began to wander through the bookcase in our living room for some reason. What I came across was a book I believe to be a comparative study of the world's main religions. This fascinated me, still does today, and I immediately gravitated towards Taoism as it was free from the dogma and impositions of my Protestant upbringing. This ignited the black flame within and set me upon a long journey to where I am now.

It took a good thirty years for me to shake the religious indoctrination that was carefully bashed into my unconscious mind and today I can assuredly say that I am free from all religious perennial philosophies and strictly on a Path which suites me perfectly.
 
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outlawState

Deism is dead
I hope to hear from a lot of ya'll and how it's shaped, contextualized or reflected your experience and journey.
All I will say is that for a sizeable time I fell into a delusory trap of, if not thinking, then assuming or acting as if God (and religion) was little more than an extension of myself. I find that saying the Lord's prayer helps me realize the vast distance between God and his religion, and myself; and I will say that his religion needs to be respected, and of which my religion is but a poor analogy.
 

MrMrdevincamus

Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
Hi Kapalika ~

I felt a sense of familiarity reading your thread. I shared a some similar 'experiences' as a very young boy when my well meaning parents joined me into the Appalachian Pentecostal Church 'community'. By the time I was in middle school I knew I loved Jesus and knew the Pentecostal church wasn't something I could support. Anyway, not to hijack your thread, you seemed to have sorted everything out and are blazing a beautiful path in life, and maybe the after life (?) In anycase I wish you and yours a blessed life ~
 
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