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I disagree with President Trump
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I’m not familiar with Fox’s editorial take on Afghanistan withdrawal. I don’t watch Fox much, hardly ever. I can’t remember that last time I watched Fox News.It's the new trend. With draw with darw with draw.
95% can't tell what the **** for. Unless Fox told them
I agree with you. We never should've been over there to begin with.
74x12
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What?
You don't think we should stay and keep the poppies growing? A lot of heroine addicts are depending on our efforts!
FOX is critical of Trump's action in Afghanistan.
In his first major foreign policy speech in prime time, Mr. Trump unveiled what he called a new strategy for Afghanistan and South Asia, which he called “principled realism.” But many of its key components remain infuriatingly vague, such as the number of additional troops he intends to deploy in Afghanistan and how much more money -- if any -- he intends to spend there. Moreover, some of the goals he espoused Monday night seemed inherently contradictory.
Trump's new bottom line: Don't lose Afghanistan by withdrawing
I always wonder what the real story is. I mean why are we really in Afghanistan. Probably not for reasons promoted by the government.
74x12
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Educated guess: The denial of resources to enemies and the exploitation of resources.
We went into there because of 911. I'm really conflicted. We messed it up because of shifting resources to Iraq and ignoring opportunities back in the early 2000's. From the little I've seen recently I'm not convinced we're doing a very good job there.
But I don't want to see the terrorists running a country and using it to stage attacks on the West.
So I have a slight preference for staying there to deny them a safe haven.
But I don't want to see the terrorists running a country and using it to stage attacks on the West.
So I have a slight preference for staying there to deny them a safe haven.
As are a host of left leaning media sources. Which implies Fox is not as right leaning biased as some say.
Do you really think the Taliban don’t already control most of Afghanistan?
Heroin? That’s like, so twentieth century.What?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's a very difficult thing. On one hand drawn out military campaigns are damaging for all involved. On the other we have Pakistan, which has both nuclear weapons and the Taliban. It may be that "preventative care" has gotten America stuck in this position for the foreseeable future.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Not enough to control the nukes and erase Israel from land.
You think the Taliban would get nuclear weapons if the U.S. withdrew from Afghanistan? That is silly.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No. It's more of a "if they get them" sort of thing. Not that if statements will happen, but in this case there is an unusually severe risk involved if there is sufficient military strength to put down such a thing before it becomes an international catastrophe. Iraq has already shown us just a small taste of how great of a predicament these situations are.
There is no easy answer.
sealchan
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Putting money in someone's pocket...following the model of Russia...who knows. His policies in general don't make any sense and cause more harm than good.
Most? I don't think so. Quite a bit? Yes. But do we really want them to take it all over and start up the terrorist training camps again? I don't think so. Maybe our tactics should change there.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That exactly. There is a major potential for global catastrophe in Pakistan. The Taliban has too much power as it is, and they are some of the absolute last people we want getting control over Pakistan's nuclear arsonal. "Iraq v.3" is not what we need in Pakistan, but maintaining a large enough military presence in neighboring nations to allow for a quicker and more efficient deployment may be about the only thing we can do to be as ready as possible should it appear things are getting worse and the Taliban working towards having control over the nukes.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
There must be a reason for staying if he doesn't have troops withdrawal.