I don't particularly want to sin...

[lukethethird]

Again, you take a great deal for granted - granny's imminent death does not necessitate, in order to be truthful, that one be either callous or uncompassionate with her. One can tell her that God forgives and has a better place for all who recognize His sovereignty and acknowledge His Messianic son. We can tell her many things to alleviate the fear and stress that are not fallacious. You do err greatly.

Animals do not grieve the loss of their family, for they kill and eat alive countless other creatures - one cannot be a primitive savage in one context, and then a bleeding-heart in another. You do greatly err!

This tells us more about you than it does animals.

 

[Sheldon]

First of all, it would be entirely subjective - ask a white supremist of his values and how ardently that he believes it, and you tell me how to impress upon him that he's wrong?

Indeed, or a theists who has learned to believe and espouses vile and pernicious homophobia, and is just as strident and intransigent in their hatred and prejudice as any white supremacist is in theirs.

it is a mantra.
..and don't think that your perverse and iniquitous endorsements of homosexuality has gone unnoticed.

You may have noticed, but you have not understood, as I have endorsed nothing. Since I don't believe being gay needs anyone's endorsement anymore than being straight does. Your hateful bigotry simply reinforces my point.

We know who the trouble-makers are, and the ones who promote wickedness in order to justify their own licentiousness.

As long as bigoted nut jobs don't know where I live, I'm inclined to respond "meh".

You claim that you are loving,

I have never claimed this, that pesky 9th commandment seems to be getting a pasting again.

and yet you prefer to watch others destroy themselves with utterly vile and detestable practices,

I have also never remotely claimed anything like that, the bigoted hyperbole speaks for itself - straw man fallacy.

that even the ignorant and primitive animals know better than to partake.

Again your Dr Doolittle impression is farcically wrong. "For these animals, there is documented evidence of homosexual behaviour of one or more of the following kinds: sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, or parenting, as noted in researcher and author Bruce Bagemihl's 1999 book Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity."

So either being gay is perfectly natural, or your deity did it, oopsy.

"Shame on you Sheldon, you can't disguise hedonism and apathy as love."

I can't imagine a better approbation of my morals, than to be condemned for speaking out against hate speech, and by someone who regularly espouses the worst kind of vile homophobic bigotry. So thanks for that, made my day. Oh and that ludicrous hyperbolic bs, is another straw man fallacy.

To be honest, I'm a little disappointed that I wasn't threatened with the vapid torments of a "thorough posthumous torturing", that ironically often seems to obsess over a human orifice, that bullying religious bigots insist is verboten in this life as well.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Mosquitos, lizards, reptiles, insects, lions, camels, eagles, vultures, giraffes, tuna, salmon, barracuda, piranha, amoeba, hydra, squirrels, badgers, orcas, great whites, etc.....
I think that your understanding of the animal kingdom is entirely off-base with reality.

Better than yours apparently with you listing some non-animals and calling them a part of the animal kingdom.

 

[rational experiences]

If a human says God the creation came from the eternal. Then god is no longer the eternal.

If they state I was an eternal spirit myself and we left.

We crossed into the filled in Infinite space O earths heavens.

A body once infinite empty space filled in. Gods owned O earth.

We came in where space is most filled in. Ground water mass pressure.

We took on water into the eternal pre owned spirit body and the body as water existed highest of gods spirits.

Why we have it inside us. Transmitted radiations made the eternal form biological only chemistry. As it is scientific only biological owned chemicals.

Why we taught we should try to be ourselves. We came from a place of unconditional love.

Yet we are not successful. As we live irradiated forced clinical changed behaviours. Forced to change. Not that we want to live being changed.

We own no choice.

We realise our brother in science made our behaviours evil as a human. By our feelings that a lot of us no longer control.

We knew.

We teach.

We say spiritual brothers sisters taught us.

It's true. It's real. We've seen all the evidence. We witnessed it all ourselves.

Our true holy life given back a higher water body became more spiritual in Life's sacrifice.

It's real.

We know we die. We still own one spirit body in the eternal ours personally.

The evil minded brother however stays in the heavens status when he died recorded. As he caused it.

He was warned about what he did.

You say you walked through infinite space as a human. It's why you say it.

 

[loverofhumanity]

He also advocated for an institution of slavery, social inequity for women, punished people for not loving him and then blamed them for his actions. Told all of his followers that it's my way or the highway and then somehow expected that to result in peace. Use a book as a communication method.
I think you're looking at him with one eye closed.

Baha’u’llah says of Christ:


Know thou that when the Son of Man yielded up His breath to God, the whole creation wept with a great weeping. By sacrificing Himself, however, a fresh capacity was infused into all created things. Its evidences, as witnessed in all the peoples of the earth, are now manifest before thee. The deepest wisdom which the sages have uttered, the profoundest learning which any mind hath unfolded, the arts which the ablest hands have produced, the influence exerted by the most potent of rulers, are but manifestations of the quickening power released by His transcendent, His all-pervasive, and resplendent Spirit.

We testify that when He came into the world, He shed the splendor of His glory upon all created things. Through Him the leper recovered from the leprosy of perversity and ignorance. Through Him, the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened, and the soul of the sinner sanctified… We bear witness that through the power of the Word of God every leper was cleansed, every sickness was healed, every human infirmity was banished. He it is Who purified the world. Blessed is the man who, with a face beaming with light, hath turned towards Him

 

[ppp]

Baha’u’llah says of Christ:


Know thou that when the Son of Man yielded up His breath to God, the whole creation wept with a great weeping. By sacrificing Himself, however, a fresh capacity was infused into all created things. Its evidences, as witnessed in all the peoples of the earth, are now manifest before thee. The deepest wisdom which the sages have uttered, the profoundest learning which any mind hath unfolded, the arts which the ablest hands have produced, the influence exerted by the most potent of rulers, are but manifestations of the quickening power released by His transcendent, His all-pervasive, and resplendent Spirit.

We testify that when He came into the world, He shed the splendor of His glory upon all created things. Through Him the leper recovered from the leprosy of perversity and ignorance. Through Him, the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened, and the soul of the sinner sanctified… We bear witness that through the power of the Word of God every leper was cleansed, every sickness was healed, every human infirmity was banished. He it is Who purified the world. Blessed is the man who, with a face beaming with light, hath turned towards Him

Mr B is quite evidently, utterly wrong.

 

[rational experiences]

You may have noticed, but you have not understood, as I have endorsed nothing. Since I don't believe being gay needs anyone's endorsement anymore than being straight does. Your hateful bigotry simply reinforces my point.



As long as bigoted nut jobs don't know where I live, I'm inclined to respond "meh".



I have never claimed this, that pesky 9th commandment seems to be getting a pasting again.



I have also never remotely claimed anything like that, the bigoted hyperbole speaks for itself - straw man fallacy.



Again your Dr Doolittle impression is farcically wrong. "For these animals, there is documented evidence of homosexual behaviour of one or more of the following kinds: sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, or parenting, as noted in researcher and author Bruce Bagemihl's 1999 book Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity."

So either being gay is perfectly natural, or your deity did it, oopsy.



I can't imagine a better approbation of my morals, than to be condemned for speaking out against hate speech, and by someone who regularly espouses the worst kind of vile homophobic bigotry. So thanks for that, made my day. Oh and that ludicrous hyperbolic bs, is another straw man fallacy.

To be honest, I'm a little disappointed that I wasn't threatened with the vapid torments of a "thorough posthumous torturing", that ironically often seems to obsess over a human orifice, that bullying religious bigots insist is verboten in this life as well.

The reasons human memory came to dislike the homo sexual man. He said an al sex gave him the reasoning and the power of satanic powers.

He also abused boys not homosexual.

Is where the dislike in society emerged.

As it had its own human reasons.

When you love and a family member is gay...you still love them if you are first loving yourself. Loving humans accept everyone.

I did. Family or friend.

Men of science had to teach scientists an ape living inside heavens is the only one minus lower body in thesis than your own. Organic whole one living life form...not using genetic lying.

As proof God satanisms fake in science.

The only reason to make the claim.

As in reality one self. One holy self. One whole self is a human equals a human.

Knowing that advice we get angered if a human says you were an ape.

As living human consciousness say no ...life is an equal human only.

Science already said a human is only equal to a human man.or woman actually.

 

[rational experiences]

Baha’u’llah says of Christ:


Know thou that when the Son of Man yielded up His breath to God, the whole creation wept with a great weeping. By sacrificing Himself, however, a fresh capacity was infused into all created things. Its evidences, as witnessed in all the peoples of the earth, are now manifest before thee. The deepest wisdom which the sages have uttered, the profoundest learning which any mind hath unfolded, the arts which the ablest hands have produced, the influence exerted by the most potent of rulers, are but manifestations of the quickening power released by His transcendent, His all-pervasive, and resplendent Spirit.

We testify that when He came into the world, He shed the splendor of His glory upon all created things. Through Him the leper recovered from the leprosy of perversity and ignorance. Through Him, the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened, and the soul of the sinner sanctified… We bear witness that through the power of the Word of God every leper was cleansed, every sickness was healed, every human infirmity was banished. He it is Who purified the world. Blessed is the man who, with a face beaming with light, hath turned towards Him

In reality.

Christ without anti he explains as it is a teaching only owned no blindness owned no sickness owned no leprosy.

You mis read what was stated. As he was looking back at first human natural advice only.

Then you think back over days stating why life never healed as the Anti was not yet overcome.

2012 event he wasn't living yet would inherit it.

It however didn't.

As Russia hit ice melt cooling did not amass Christ as nuclear science began to remove it again.

Increasing life's sacrifice witnessed today again Jesus returned life sacrificed arguing by any early age death baby to adult. Anti increasing witnessed UFO a lie in every nation.

Prophecised. Science of man the theist would be reborn the destroyer and do it one more time

As the answer to anything was by three.

One testament.
Two testament.
New testament three

 

[loverofhumanity]

Mr B is quite evidently, utterly wrong.

I respect you’re right to your own views.

 

[ppp]

I respect you’re right to your own views.

And I respect your right to have yours. But I do not respect your views just because you happen to have them. That would be both dishonest and (at best) morally irresponsible.

 

[loverofhumanity]

And I respect your right to have yours. But I do not respect your views just because you happen to have them. That would be both dishonest and (at best) morally irresponsible.

We each have our reasons for what we believe. One thing I agree with is not to accept anything you disagree with. I disagreed with religion and the Baha’i Faith for many years and that was right because I had to be honest to myself.

Above all you must be honest to yourself. In life we live and learn so our views regularly are being challenged, reviewed etc. i would never change my beliefs until I felt I would be lying to myself not to acknowledge a truth. So until then I I hang on to my views.

 

[F1fan]

... hole ...

Excellent band.

 

[ppp]

We each have our reasons for what we believe.

That's a pretty trivial statement. Everybody has a reason for what they believe. From humanitarians to serial rapists. And anything that we believe-- you or I or anyone else-- can fall anywhere along that gamut. And you have no idea where your beliefs fall on that spectrum without a tangible, demonstrable anchor to reality. Dependence on your earnest feelings is just a form of masturbation.

 

[F1fan]

We each have our reasons for what we believe. One thing I agree with is not to accept anything you disagree with. I disagreed with religion and the Baha’i Faith for many years and that was right because I had to be honest to myself.

And you were justified in being honest because no religious faith/belief has any rational basis for them. The biggest reason for this is due to their supernatural elements which are not factual. On that basis alone we should dismiss all religions and beliefs as being truth or credible. This doesn't mean some folks shouldn't apply the traditions of faith to their lives for meaning. I only suggest a belief that a God exists, and these dogmas being authorized by any of these God, is not credible or rational. If people believe then it is for reasons other than reason and knowledge.

Above all you must be honest to yourself. In life we live and learn so our views regularly are being challenged, reviewed etc. i would never change my beliefs until I felt I would be lying to myself not to acknowledge a truth. So until then I I hang on to my views.

Too much feeling, not enough thinking.

 

[rational experiences]

Excellent band.

A hole sink hole owns mass O whole stone rock removal. Heavens water oxygen goes into hole. Our consciousness.

Theist irradiated yet living saved says but ice melt the saviour saved lies. He caused the sin by atomic radiating star bands within a structure the atom himself.

You have to know an atom to blow it up. Bands the atom theories.

You said atom is a stars radiating mass. Even drew the design a star radiating to an atom body.

So a star eventually as the sun star a God of RA gives you back a stone. As the answer returned cause.

It's gases like earths gets removed to traject it to earth. It hits as another equals hole band but much much bigger.

Thinker of science is life's owner. A gods sin hole is little compared to the giants hole he said.

Lucky it was overcome. By water oxygen losses is his thesis.

How liar?

God hits its stone mass on earth to fuse it back together as my thesis stars are separated mass fused. My thesis my own hence is not wrong says his memory. Not life's truth. Memory of life is just life.

Life.
Lie.

F 6 inferred reasoning about lying caused.

Stones are put back by the giant. Atomic nuclear fusion blasting themes.

Oh. But you didn't tell the story correctly?

No. I was a theist of science my mind's first visions are God earth reactions only. Science. The state science my first invention is science.

As a human. What a liar in science is actually. Known by my holy sacrificed brother not the scientist first.

Is not God earth you know. It's not his fault he theories when it was his fault. What a liar in consciousness is and means. Lying the state to lie. Pretending you are a God first in mass space stars.

So his brother who on life learnt to truly hate his thinking tries to save us.

Father knows he said. When father tells us is our last chance.

 

[alypius]

I offer up this question to those believers who honestly think that, without God, everything is permitted. That is, if you really do believe that dictum ("without God, everything is permitted"), then you must also admit that if you did not believe in God, and follow what you believe to be God's commands, you would not know right from wrong.

What if without God there simply is no longer right or wrong?

 

[ppp]

What if without God there simply is no longer right or wrong?

How would God be anything but just another arbitrary opinion?

 

[rational experiences]

The basic human truth.

Family first.
Basic group tribal family group.

No messengers. No theists. No scientists.

Life's problems...men's egos self given messages about God and gods.

Until you agree will you succeed.

All pasts are pasts.

If a mother says to a baby man your life belief is with me. We are a family you and I. Then believe where you are meant to believe.

Respect of your human mother's O little cell an ova ovah.

As that blood body was your own heavens womb brother.

 

[rational experiences]

What if without God there simply is no longer right or wrong?

Lying.

A man named God theoried God.

Says what if?

You know you named God yourself. A truth without God....natural life with God is a word name also.

Oxy Moron.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

What if without God there simply is no longer right or wrong?

How would you be able to determine that? There's a lot of both right and wrong happening, while many people there is a God. Do you suppose (and how would you demonstrate it) that if people supposed there were no God, there would no longer be a lot of both right and wrong?