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I feel rejected by my parish.

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
A deacon from the cathedral I'm a member of came by to give my mom Communion because she's very sick with cancer and can't make it to church.

He's an elderly guy and kind of conservative, as most people involved in my parish seem to be. It feels that he's always viewed me as somewhat of a freak, because of my appearance and such. I have a shaved head and facial piercings and I don't have fancy clothes. I haven't been to Mass in a long time because I suffer from severe depression and social anxiety disorder, which makes it very hard for me to go anywhere and be around people. But he basically said that I don't have a reason not to go to church. I also haven't been to Confession in 6 years, because it terrifies me. He doesn't understand.

He basically refused to give me Communion. He made that pretty clear. He did hesitantly ask if I wanted to receive it, but I didn't take it because I didn't want to offend him and he was making me feel like garbage, anyway. He said he would give me a "good blessing", but he left without giving me any blessing.

I'm also a female to male transsexual and I tried to keep that to myself as much as possible. I know those people don't understand it and my Godmother rejected me years ago over it and suggested I go to Courage, when transsexualism has nothing to do with homosexuality! Anyway, I can no longer hide it because I'm on testosterone therapy and it's caused obvious changes to my features and my voice. So he was kinda confused and questioned me about it. He thought I was someone else. Now he's going to go and tell everyone at the parish about it.

He also actually asked how my mom and I are related! We've been going to that parish for years! People seem to have a problem believing that I'm my mom's child because I'm mixed black/white and she's white. One guy at the parish thought we were lesbian lovers! :(

I love the beauty of that cathedral and the beauty of the liturgy, but I never felt like I really belonged because of how the people treat me. One friend of mine, who is a gay man, ended up leaving the Church because they rejected him due to him being gay. He was really devout and loved his faith very much. He was really involved with the parish, as an altar server and doing other things. He brought a lot of his friends in with him, too. But guess what? They're all gone now, because people's judgmental and negative attitudes have driven them away. My friend ended up leaving Christianity all together because of the way he was treated. They judge you because of how you look, because you're LGB and/or T, because you have mental health issues (which aren't taken seriously), etc.

I used to love going to Mass and I used to be very devout. Now I have little to no desire to go to Mass, because of how I am treated. I'm viewed with suspicion and as if I don't belong there. I'm tired of being viewed as a freak and a sinner (which I am, but apparently my sins are much worse than the sins of the "normal" people).

So I'd rather just stay home and love God and Christ in my heart. Because "God's people" are driving me away, and it hurts. I do not feel like I'm part of a community and I feel like I don't belong. Fine. They'll just earn themselves yet another empty space in the pews. They do it to themselves. They need to think long and hard about why it's mostly elderly people in the pews and why the pews are mostly empty, except for Christmas and Easter, when people just show up for appearance's sake and not because they actually care all that much about it.
 
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Deidre

Well-Known Member
It begs the question, would Jesus honestly turn anyone away from His table? I'm think He would not. I'm sorry you are being treated this way. Know that there are some within the church who believe they speak for Jesus. Just keep praying and hold onto your faith. Maybe find a new parish? Your life is between you and Jesus, so let Him guide you. ((hugs)) :heart:
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
So I'd rather just stay home and love God and Christ in my heart.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Not all Christians are like that, maybe you could try out some other groups? I have some Quaker friends who are lovely.

When I was working as a social worker I had a client who was a male to female transsexual, this was back in the 80's, she'd worked as a docker in her previous life. It didn't make any difference to me, though I kept calling her "mate". ;)
 
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Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
So make it your own and fight. I've never been able to understand notions of shame for who you happen to be. I just don't get it. You're who you are, and that will never change. So if other people don't like it, why do you care? Opposition is good. It means you're doing something right.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
aren't the rules that as long as non believers of that faith stay respectful, they can post there? i always get confused in DIR. lol
The current rules are that all dir forums are for respectful questions unless you belong in the dir. So for example since I'm 'Liberal Christian' and not 'Roman Catholic' or 'Orthodox Catholic' etc. then I don't comment on things people say, or I can get reported.

Technically I am Catholic since all Christians are Catholic theoretically...but I think posting in the dir it means you go to a Catholic meeting of some kind.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Technically I am Catholic since all Christians are Catholic theoretically...but I think posting in the dir it means you go to a Catholic meeting of some kind.

I hope my earlier post didn't breach any rules, I just responded as I thought best.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
A deacon from the cathedral I'm a member of came by to give my mom Communion because she's very sick with cancer and can't make it to church.

He's an elderly guy and kind of conservative, as most people involved in my parish seem to be. It feels that he's always viewed me as somewhat of a freak, because of my appearance and such. I have a shaved head and facial piercings and I don't have fancy clothes. I haven't been to Mass in a long time because I suffer from severe depression and social anxiety disorder, which makes it very hard for me to go anywhere and be around people. But he basically said that I don't have a reason not to go to church. I also haven't been to Confession in 6 years, because it terrifies me. He doesn't understand.

He basically refused to give me Communion. He made that pretty clear. He did hesitantly ask if I wanted to receive it, but I didn't take it because I didn't want to offend him and he was making me feel like garbage, anyway. He said he would give me a "good blessing", but he left without giving me any blessing.

I'm also a female to male transsexual and I tried to keep that to myself as much as possible. I know those people don't understand it and my Godmother rejected me years ago over it and suggested I go to Courage, when transsexualism has nothing to do with homosexuality! Anyway, I can no longer hide it because I'm on testosterone therapy and it's caused obvious changes to my features and my voice. So he was kinda confused and questioned me about it. He thought I was someone else. Now he's going to go and tell everyone at the parish about it.

He also actually asked how my mom and I are related! We've been going to that parish for years! People seem to have a problem believing that I'm my mom's child because I'm mixed black/white and she's white. One guy at the parish thought we were lesbian lovers! :(

I love the beauty of that cathedral and the beauty of the liturgy, but I never felt like I really belonged because of how the people treat me. One friend of mine, who is a gay man, ended up leaving the Church because they rejected him due to him being gay. He was really devout and loved his faith very much. He was really involved with the parish, as an altar server and doing other things. He brought a lot of his friends in with him, too. But guess what? They're all gone now, because people's judgmental and negative attitudes have driven them away. My friend ended up leaving Christianity all together because of the way he was treated. They judge you because of how you look, because you're LGB and/or T, because you have mental health issues (which aren't taken seriously), etc.

I used to love going to Mass and I used to be very devout. Now I have little to no desire to go to Mass, because of how I am treated. I'm viewed with suspicion and as if I don't belong there. I'm tired of being viewed as a freak and a sinner (which I am, but apparently my sins are much worse than the sins of the "normal" people).

So I'd rather just stay home and love God and Christ in my heart. Because "God's people" are driving me away, and it hurts. I do not feel like I'm part of a community and I feel like I don't belong. Fine. They'll just earn themselves yet another empty space in the pews. They do it to themselves. They need to think long and hard about why it's mostly elderly people in the pews and why the pews are mostly empty, except for Christmas and Easter, when people just show up for appearance's sake and not because they actually care all that much about it.

I know I may get in trouble for posting here, but I will always be Catholic regardless.

I hate the situation you are going through (reminds me of mine, to an extent). I would say that Deidre's advise is a good one. In addition to prayer and definitely finding a new parish, I would try and talk to younger priests. One younger priest spent three hours with me during my confession. An older priest yelled at me for my asking him if he was alright because he was falling to sleep during confession.

Anyway, enough about me. I would not change who you are for anyone-not for people at Church and any other person who puts down who you are regardless of how it's portrayed wrong to the public. Maybe you can find a transgender support group? Once in a blue moon I go to one at a UU church, but like you said, they mix up homosexuality with transgender. I did not belong. I can see honestly why there is a mix up but if people actually listen to the people going through it, they might just get their definitions straight!

Please don't let people at your parish define who you are as a Catholic. If it were me in my area, I would definitely go over the heads of the priest and command that I rejected communion where ALL Catholics are entitled to no matter who they are and how they look. There was a movie called The Priest (good movie, must watch.. Non rated) where the priest tells the younger gay priest who was too denied communion,correction.. who the congregation refused to take communion from, said "They [the congregation] have more right to receive communion than I have to give it."

It's people not your faith. Look to Jesus and pray. Find a transgender (not homosexual, lol) support group, and see if you can find a parish that will accept you for who you are no matter how they feel about the issue. Of course, no one is perfect but what you describe is terrible.

Follow your heart.

Cheerios!

:confused: Oh. Was I supposed to ask a question? :oops:

What do you do on your free time to help yourself emotionally? Temporary relief through excercising, affirmations, prayer of course, and the like can clear your mind while you are finding ways to vent and be with people who accept you.
 
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dawny0826

Mother Heathen
A deacon from the cathedral I'm a member of came by to give my mom Communion because she's very sick with cancer and can't make it to church.

He's an elderly guy and kind of conservative, as most people involved in my parish seem to be. It feels that he's always viewed me as somewhat of a freak, because of my appearance and such. I have a shaved head and facial piercings and I don't have fancy clothes. I haven't been to Mass in a long time because I suffer from severe depression and social anxiety disorder, which makes it very hard for me to go anywhere and be around people. But he basically said that I don't have a reason not to go to church. I also haven't been to Confession in 6 years, because it terrifies me. He doesn't understand.

He basically refused to give me Communion. He made that pretty clear. He did hesitantly ask if I wanted to receive it, but I didn't take it because I didn't want to offend him and he was making me feel like garbage, anyway. He said he would give me a "good blessing", but he left without giving me any blessing.

I'm also a female to male transsexual and I tried to keep that to myself as much as possible. I know those people don't understand it and my Godmother rejected me years ago over it and suggested I go to Courage, when transsexualism has nothing to do with homosexuality! Anyway, I can no longer hide it because I'm on testosterone therapy and it's caused obvious changes to my features and my voice. So he was kinda confused and questioned me about it. He thought I was someone else. Now he's going to go and tell everyone at the parish about it.

He also actually asked how my mom and I are related! We've been going to that parish for years! People seem to have a problem believing that I'm my mom's child because I'm mixed black/white and she's white. One guy at the parish thought we were lesbian lovers! :(

I love the beauty of that cathedral and the beauty of the liturgy, but I never felt like I really belonged because of how the people treat me. One friend of mine, who is a gay man, ended up leaving the Church because they rejected him due to him being gay. He was really devout and loved his faith very much. He was really involved with the parish, as an altar server and doing other things. He brought a lot of his friends in with him, too. But guess what? They're all gone now, because people's judgmental and negative attitudes have driven them away. My friend ended up leaving Christianity all together because of the way he was treated. They judge you because of how you look, because you're LGB and/or T, because you have mental health issues (which aren't taken seriously), etc.

I used to love going to Mass and I used to be very devout. Now I have little to no desire to go to Mass, because of how I am treated. I'm viewed with suspicion and as if I don't belong there. I'm tired of being viewed as a freak and a sinner (which I am, but apparently my sins are much worse than the sins of the "normal" people).

So I'd rather just stay home and love God and Christ in my heart. Because "God's people" are driving me away, and it hurts. I do not feel like I'm part of a community and I feel like I don't belong. Fine. They'll just earn themselves yet another empty space in the pews. They do it to themselves. They need to think long and hard about why it's mostly elderly people in the pews and why the pews are mostly empty, except for Christmas and Easter, when people just show up for appearance's sake and not because they actually care all that much about it.

Unfortunately, there will be people like this of all Christian denominations. But, that doesn't mean that all of God's people are this way and that all religious denominations or even Catholic parishes would make you feel shunned.

I accept you. I care about you. I don't care that you're transgender. I empathize with your struggles with depression and anxiety and can greatly relate. There are many out there who, in Christ, would embrace you in the same way without hesitation.

Ultimately, whether or not you partake in communion, attend Mass and go to confessional is a spiritual choice that only you can make. Christ will give you the strength that you need to get out there and do what's right for you in regards to your spiritual walk with Him. Trust Him and let His spirit work through you.

At the heart of it - your spiritual walk with Christ is personal. You are loved. You are precious and you have purpose. No one understands that better than your own Savior. It doesn't matter if you're not understood or embraced by others within your faith and He understands your pain more than anyone else. Look what He endured. You're understood by your Father and He will place people in your life, in His timing who will remind you of this and who will embrace you when you need to feel embraced.

It's okay if you don't feel like you belong in a pew now. I believe that God will work on those who choose judgement over love. Remember, that you always have a place as part of the body. People can't take that from you.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
My sympathies, but are you actually surprised by how religious conservatives act/react? If you need god, okay, but does such a connection really need intermediaries and middlemen? Clergy typically treat god like a ventriloquist dummy.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Frank, others like Deidre, Carlita and Dawny have given you sound counsel already; I would just like to reiterate that you should find a new parish. A parish that turns people away for being sinful is a parish that has many of its own sins to repent of. If it's not too much of a hike, maybe you could try a parish around the OSU area, where there will be a lot of college students? The parish I go to, which is across the street from my campus, has many good, open-minded people, and a priest that is sensitive to the unique social situation that young Catholics find themselves in, and many of the cultural shifts we're seeing today. OSU has a Newman Center--maybe make an appointment with the priest there or pop in for Mass one Sunday? Even if you can't go as often, at least you'll have a more welcoming community that can help you in your struggles, not shun you for them.

Also... I don't think anyone will mind this thread, as long as everyone in here stays respectful towards each other and towards the Catholic Church. ;) *tips mod hat*
 

Agathion

the Minister
Find a new parish. Seriously, if they are treating you like that then they are not serving god... they are unwittingly serving the evil one. They are the garbage not you.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Find a new parish. Seriously, if they are treating you like that then they are not serving god... they are unwittingly serving the evil one. They are the garbage not you.
Is this really an appropriate post in the Catholic DIR? That a Catholic Church is "garbage"?
Tom
ETA. I realise that Catholic bashing is a sport among a fair number of people, but might it be kept out of this DIR?
 

Agathion

the Minister
Did i say ALL Catholic's and their churches... no i did NOT. Honestly there are such things as corrupt churches, synagogues, and mosques. Most places of worship are ok but there are always a few which are not. I call corrupt temples what they are, garbage. That goes for any faith not just Catholics. If your church is purposely trying to force you out or is preaching hate then they are not of god. The best option in that instance is to find another church which does not do those things.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
As a Catholic, I think Agathion has the right idea; every religion is going to have some bad cookies in the batch, Catholicism included. We are, after all, a Church made up of fallen (and often sinful) human beings.
 
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