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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hello guys

Please don't take this as offend thread, I just find it paradox that someone claim he is gay then he married to a woman.I hope my gay friends don't take it as offend :)

it's not like vegeterian eat meat ? :p:D
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
No.

Vegetarians choose not to eat meat, but they can eat meat if they want.

Homosexuality is not a choice. Some homosexuals marry a person of the opposite sex to avoid social stigma. There are many individual reasons a gay person may do this.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Historically, many homosexuals were expected to marry people of the opposite gender in order to avoid too much backlash from their social environments.

Although really, each marriage is different from every other. Only the couple will be able to know what their own marriage means to them.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Homosexuality is not a choice. Some homosexuals marry a person of the opposite sex to avoid social stigma. There are many individual reasons a gay person may do this.

What social stigma you mean ?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
What social stigma you mean ?
Homosexuals are even today subject to ridicule, insult and marginalization just because they are homosexuals. It used to be quite worse, but it is still a reality. Hopefully not for long.

Just a few short decades ago they were expected to lie and hide their homosexuality as a matter of course, and even to marry and have children - mostly because the social environment did not want to consider that people might be happier with some other lifestyles.
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
Please don't take this as offend thread, I just find it paradox that someone claim he is gay then he married to a woman.I hope my gay friends don't take it as offend :)

It's for their own self interests, mostly.

You wont see many openly gay people married to the opposite sex where I live.
But there are still quite a few places in the world where being gay can ruin your life completely, hence the hiding it.
There are also plenty of families that will disown their gay children, and plenty of gay children that don't wish to be disowned.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Right. Because there are no gay people in the Middle East, obviously. There are no gay people in Iran, remember?

Or in Zimbabwe, apparently!

Homosexuals are even today subject to ridicule, insult and marginalization just because they are homosexuals. It used to be quite worse, but it is still a reality. Hopefully not for long.

Just a few short decades ago they were expected to lie and hide their homosexuality as a matter of course, and even to marry and have children - mostly because the social environment did not want to consider that people might be happier with some other lifestyles.

These improvements have taken place in Latin America, the West and East Asia, but only very few other places.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Hello guys

Please don't take this as offend thread, I just find it paradox that someone claim he is gay then he married to a woman.I hope my gay friends don't take it as offend :)

it's not like vegeterian eat meat ? :p:D

Short story time. I played tennis for many years, and played against a team composed of gay friends (both male and female). One of them turned out to be the mother of a boy I went to school with (didn't know him well, but he was of the same age as me).
End of the match, she had a quiet talk with me, asking me not to mention her lesbianism to him or anyone he might know.

Deceiving your son is obviously not great. I could only assume too that there had been a period of deception with her husband. But I think the thing worth remembering is that there is then also a period of self-deception. Putting people into a position where they feel like they should be straight can be very damaging, I think. I'd prefer to put people in a position where they feel like they can be honest...with themselves, with employers, with friends and family.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Short story time. I played tennis for many years, and played against a team composed of gay friends (both male and female). One of them turned out to be the mother of a boy I went to school with (didn't know him well, but he was of the same age as me).
End of the match, she had a quiet talk with me, asking me not to mention her lesbianism to him or anyone he might know.

Deceiving your son is obviously not great. I could only assume too that there had been a period of deception with her husband. But I think the thing worth remembering is that there is then also a period of self-deception. Putting people into a position where they feel like they should be straight can be very damaging, I think. I'd prefer to put people in a position where they feel like they can be honest...with themselves, with employers, with friends and family.

I feel like this was one of those bedtime stories with a good moral at the end :) Will you tuck me in now?
 

Carl W.

Member
In the less civilized parts of the world, gay men & lesbians will marry the opposite sex so other people don't find out and murder them.

I totally understand that.
In some parts of the world suspected gay men are
incinerated, thrown off roofs, beaten to death.............All
in the name of a religion and "god", or some prophet.
Wonder what if a woman is lesbian?
Is that o.k.?
I've never read of a woman being murdered for being
a lesbian.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
I read a book a few years ago, a true story of a guy who is a college professor who would sleep with his male students, but he was married. He was in such a prestigious position, that he felt ''coming out'' would cost him his family, his job, his everything. So, that is usually why you see some gay people living ''two lives.'' It's so sad to me to have to live like that, and be judged for being who you are.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
What social stigma you mean ?
Kids are still being thrown out of home because they are gay. Ex Gay "therapy" is still being used. Gay people are subject to slurs and social isolation.

I find a gay person marrying someone of the opposite gender rather sad. Because it shows that they are not comfortable with themselves and are lying to themselves, their spouse and possibly their kids. It shows that they are being forced by society to hide themselves and deny themselves happiness.
 

Carl W.

Member
Kids are still being thrown out of home because they are gay. Ex Gay "therapy" is still being used. Gay people are subject to slurs and social isolation.

In Australia?
There are two openly gay men, that are related
to my significant other that we are close too.
No such thing happens in this circle nor have I even
heard of such.
One dear friend of mine is gay, a white gay man
who lives with a black gay man.
Neither has mentioned anything like such.
We are close enough that such a thing would have been
mentioned.
But this is a small circle of people rather inclusive.
We socialize with these folks often enough that
they would have talked of such nonsense I'd think.
Years ago I worked at an auto plant with two gay men,
a couple, and no one shunned them.
I dunno.
No doubt prejudice does run rampant in some
"he men" circles.

Frankly I'm an bit of an effeminate straight male and wouldn't trade my sensitive
side for anything.
 
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