I have a question about use of niqab and corona face mask.

[Saint Frankenstein]

Maybe I just did not want to meet him

Don't blame you. Lol.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Don't blame you. Lol.

If I go there I might do this to him

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Too bad she didn't rip off her niqab and start twerking.

Wow

 

[Unveiled Artist]

In Holland the law is quite clear about it, see below quote:


So, in Holland she should not wear a nikab when on public transport

Of course it's absurd to bully someone. Just remind them politely is sufficient

I don't know what the rules are in Norway. If there is no law against it, then the man clearly has big issues
And I don't get it, those Muslimas look so nice with a Nikab. I find no problem, if they like to wear it
I only once met a very bad Muslima, threatening me "you Dutchmen are weak, in 20 years we have taken over Holland"
But that is already 35 years ago, so she was obviously very bad in fortune telling also

What reasons did Holland give for Muslims not to wear burkas in buildings and transportation?

In the US, that can lead to a lawsuit.

 

[Piculet]

Privacy rules prohibit collecting finger prints over here unless it is in context of criminal investigation.

Oh well, you change your laws like you change your shirts.

 

[ChristineM]

A relieve to read some common sense on the mask issue.

After hearing recently 5 people claiming "wearing a mask is useless, as the good masks should go to the hospitals"
(and 5 is a lot in my case, as I live quite on my own)

This may help

 

[Mock Turtle]

I gotta say that I disagree.

Sure, the vast majority of abrahamic believers are normal citizens who live pretty much like every one else, who's social circle isn't confined to only "their own" and who's religious experience is mostly personal.

However...Abrahamic religions notoriously include things that are quite counter western culture. That are quite intolerant. Which if taken to the letter, results in downright hostile thoughts and behaviour.

So this intolerance goes hand in hand with extremism. The more extreme / fundamentalist / radical the person's religious beliefs are, the more hostile they will be (and I'll leave it in the middle how that hostility manifests in daily life).

So when it comes to muslim women, the way they dress (assuming it is their own choice) gives us a hint to what category they belong. Their wardrobe kind of reveal their level of radicalism.

Speaking from my experience:
Women who don't even wear a hijab, are very "moderate". You'll likely not even realise they are muslim until they actually tell you.

Those who wear a hijab are mostly moderate.

Those who wear a niqaab are likely pretty radical.

Those who wear a burqa are likely very radical.


Note that I left it in the middle how the hostility that comes with it manifests itself.
I by no means am implying "radical" is synonymous with "terrorist".

In fact, terrorists these days actively try to hide their radicalism by trying to look as western as possible.

Well I wouldn't know the reasons why any female might wear a burqa/niqab, and it might just be down to the males insisting on such, so I wouldn't judge them for this, but I think where one sees this as being more the case then they do tend to believe in a more fundamentalist version of Islam, so more likely to cause frictions. I'm pretty sure that this would be reflected in the views of these as to not taking onboard any cultures outside their own.

 

[Cooky]

This may help

I wear a mask to protect myself. I use disposable KN95 masks.

 

[Piculet]

I'm pretty sure that this would be reflected in the views of these as to not taking onboard any cultures outside their own.

Islam is not a culture.

 

[ChristineM]

I wear a mask to protect myself. I use disposable KN95 masks.

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Thats great but ...

It does more to protect others

 

[Piculet]

I wear a mask to protect myself

Typical libertarian. Most people use them to protect others.

 

[ChristineM]

Islam is not a culture.

Oh right,

Islamic culture - Wikipedia

 

[Mock Turtle]

"taking over" is the fear. But is it real or just fear.

Europe and the Americas differ here. We're used to new groups of people coming in, forming enclaves of their peers and gradually blend into the culture. Europe does not have that pattern so it's more jarring.

I think you are mistaken in that, for example London is apparently very mixed culturally now (I left when I was 19), and many other cities similarly, but for some it does appear to be a Muslim influx more than anything else. As I said, why wouldn't some, perhaps those older, rather not see their environment change quite dramatically due to such influxes? I'm not sure one can just put it down to fear.

 

[Cooky]

Maybe I just did not want to meet him

You already know me. I'm Landon Caeli reincarnated.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Islam is not a culture.

Unfortunately not - for many.

 

[Spirit of Light]

You already know me. I'm Landon Caeli reincarnated.

I know sometimes you tried to fire me up to a discussion, and you still do

 

[Piculet]

Europe and the Americas differ here. We're used to new groups of people coming in, forming enclaves of their peers and gradually blend into the culture. Europe does not have that pattern so it's more jarring.

Do you read about Europe from the fox news maybe?

I think it's okay Americans don't know what is happening in Europe, but it's kind of a nuisance when they try to explain to other people — even europeans — what is happening in Europe when they have no idea.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I wear a mask to protect myself. I use disposable KN95 masks.

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This is the new mask I wear now, it is with filter inside it, washable

 

[Cooky]

This is the new mask I wear now, it is with filter inside it, washable
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Nothing wrong with protecting yourself while doing the right thing too.

...Some people foolishly think we shouldn't protect ourselves, claiming that all the self-protecting masks are reserved for medical professionals only... They're wrong.

If it's for sale in stores, then it's meant for everyday consumers.

 

[Piculet]

Voluntary submission to God, yes. But submission as a concept can have many meanings and interpretations.

And? Muslim women "seem submissive". Islam is submitting. Submitting to Allah wholly. Of course there's certain type of submitting to a husband and to parents as well, but I don't know what you're trying to say (as usual). All I need to know is, does it relate to what was previously said?