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I have a question about use of niqab and corona face mask.

TagliatelliMonster

TagliatelliMonster

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Piculet said:
All I hear is: I live in a very sick society, a very very sick society.
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Would you prefer a society where gay people are executed in public, where petty thievery is punished with amputation of opposite hands and feet and where apostates are beheaded?

Look at the health indexes of secular countries where freedom is valued and compare them with islamic theocracies.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
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TagliatelliMonster said:
Off course it is the case..........

The niqaab is no different. In that case, it is to hide from others. The opposite, is to show to others.
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You don't know that for certain. People wear what they feel comfortable in. Either way, I don't understand the assumption that a stranger got dressed with me in mind and wants me to stare at them. Women don't tend to like leering weirdos, anyway. It's considered rude, at the very least. No matter what another person is wearing, you're still expected to act like a mature adult.

Honestly this reminds me of when people blame sexual assault victims because they might have been wearing skimpy clothing. Either way, it's wrong. Or would you want someone like me leering at your butt?
 
Piculet

Piculet

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Saint Frankenstein said:
Either way, I don't understand the assumption that a stranger got dressed with me in mind and wants me to stare at them.
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she didn't have you in mind. Just someone very special.....now if you happen to be that... Women don't like leering, but they do like lengthy glances, the turning of heads, being treated better than others, other women being uncomfortable because they feel inferior...and just if someone already with another woman actually turns to stare at her. She's dead inside She's a winner.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

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Piculet said:
she didn't have you in mind. Just someone very special.....now if you happen to be that... Women don't like leering, but they do like lengthy glances, the turning of heads, being treated better than others, other women being uncomfortable because they feel inferior...and just if someone already with another woman actually turns to stare at her. She's dead inside She's a winner.
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Talk about reading too much into things.
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
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Saint Frankenstein said:
You don't know that for certain. People wear what they feel comfortable in. Either way, I don't understand the assumption that a stranger got dressed with me in mind and wants me to stare at them. Women don't tend to like leering weirdos, anyway. It's considered rude, at the very least. No matter what another person is wearing, you're still expected to act like a mature adult.

Honestly this reminds me of when people blame sexual assault victims because they might have been wearing skimpy clothing. Either way, it's wrong. Or would you want someone like me leering at your butt?
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That whole thing is not about modest dressing which is one thing which every religion has a view.

But it's really about men saying that they're so weak that if they see a woman's hair, eyes or legs, they can't control their own lust. And being weak and helpless they blame the one who "provoked" them.
 
Piculet

Piculet

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sun rise said:
But it's really about men saying that they're so weak that if they see a woman's hair, eyes or legs, they can't control their own lust. And being weak and helpless they blame the one who "provoked" them.
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...what is really about this? Are you trying to prove how little you understand Islam?
 
Piculet

Piculet

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Saint Frankenstein said:
No, that's not facts.
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Maybe this will help
With powerful weapons such as these would you even ask do women like to be looked at? After all, why would they not want to be looked at?

The multi-billion dollar beauty and make-up, fashion, weight loss, jewellery, hair product and perfume industries thrive because women primp and preen themselves to be more beautiful so that they can be looked at, by men.

Why else would they do it?

Young teenage girls do it, married women do it, grandmas do it, women in the military do it and women working in rice paddies do it.

No matter which culture you look at anywhere in the world; there are women making themselves look beautiful; once again, to be looked at by men.

Not just their own husbands, boyfriends or partners either; they like to be looked at by just about any guy.

Yet, in the movies and on TV you will often see women reacting badly to being looked at. Why? Because it’s entertaining for the audience and it panders to the wide variety of audiences who will watch the show.
Do Women Like To Be Looked At? | The Modern Man
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stvdv

stvdv

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Gargovic Malkav said:
I think it depends on the interpretation of this verse: 33:59
"O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful."
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Especially 1400 years ago, this seems to me a very good and "common sense" advice. People were not as civilized back then as they are now
And even nowadays it's just not smart to put a red scarf in front of a raging bull, unless you have a death wish
I like the part "Allah is Forgiving and Merciful", so not judging you if choosing differently
"That is more suitable" seems just a friendly advice to me
 
stvdv

stvdv

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Piculet said:
she didn't have you in mind. Just someone very special.....now if you happen to be that... Women don't like leering, but they do like lengthy glances, the turning of heads, being treated better than others, other women being uncomfortable because they feel inferior...and just if someone already with another woman actually turns to stare at her. She's dead inside She's a winner.
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Which women are like what you describe here, the Western, the Eastern, the Middle Easter or maybe all or maybe the "dead inside"?
 
Piculet

Piculet

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stvdv said:
Which women are like what you describe here, the Western, the Eastern, the Middle Easter or maybe all or maybe the "dead inside"?
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I was thinking of the western women, but it doesn't include all of them nor exclude everyone else.
 
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