I have a question for muslims.

[ashtonh2001]

Hello,
I am a lgbt individual who is wanting to convert to islam. I know of an imam in the U.S. who interprets the holy quran as not being against homosexuality. I am wanting a relationship with someone so living single is not an option for me. Does islam allow me?

 

[Smart_Guy]

Hi there

This is not a simple matter that can be answered in a web forum unfortunately.

As far as I personally know, simply being who you are is never a sin in Islam. Sin in Islam is achieved by acting only.

So at least I believe just living with someone without getting involved in a forbidden sexual intercourse by Islam, is okay. Not sure tho.

Sorry if that does not answer your question. I hope you find the answer and path you're looking for.

 

[ametist]

lets say there is a man who is born very very very rich. he is giving zakat as indicated in quran (sharing a certain amount of his wealth with others in need, annually) but since he is feeling that the apparent distinction that he is very rich and thus lucky compared to others somehow his soul isnt finding enough rest when he is observing all the poverty in the world and he cant help but ask for forgiveness for even what he has and for all that he personally doesnt do but could do. He has such a denial he has in his heart, it might eventually mean him scattering all his wealth to poor and this too will be againt quran since he has material obligations towards his kids and family as well.

Lets say there is a mother who lost her kid at very young age. She knows it isnt ok to cry too much over the years on her kids death but the sorrow in heart never ceases. She chooses between dying an eternal death every day and coming to a point of trust and this repeats over the years endlessly. She just cant help it alone in her mind.


being sexually different is just like these stories. it is no different. your attitude and heart will tell. There is no one answer solution to it. it is you who has the solution and your relation with god that will determine how correct it will come out. God has simply given to you a very unique opportunity to come to a point of more rewarding and exalted relation with god just like those people in these stories. I am pretty optimistic that there will be so many gay people in heaven just like mothers who lost their kids and many rich people as well.

When you are aware that you asked a very difficult question to a group of students who has the equal education as the rest, as a teacher you would tend to meet that group with difficult questions more softly while reading the exams. Even the intention of the kid trying to solve the problem means something. He could have just left it over and blank saying it is just so unfair.

 

[Godobeyer]

Hi there

Being muslim is not obligation that you will never be a sinner, avoid to make sins is essiential rule in Islam.

for exemple :

is like beieng American , and made crimes against the law of USA , so it's up to you , between you and God .

Islam and also the Christianity and Judiasm never allow to homosex .

for my opinion :
being sinner muslims, than you try to fix , is very better than being non-muslim

take the first step to be a muslim , then try to avoid do sin as you can .

 

[Estro Felino]

So at least I believe just living with someone without getting involved in a forbidden sexual intercourse by Islam, is okay. Not sure tho.

Are kisses allowed?

 

[Godobeyer]

Are kisses allowed?

do you mean between wife and husband ?

 

[Smart_Guy]

Are kisses allowed?

Lustful and sexually intended kisses are not allowed. Normal kissed like those for greetings and respect are allowed.

I kiss other males out of platonic love and respect, like kissing my father's head and hands or kissing the babies because they are cute.

But there is a missing link here. We need more clarification from the original poster on the nature of their LGBT case.

 

[Estro Felino]

Lustful and sexually intended kisses are not allowed. Normal kissed like those for greetings and respect are allowed.

I kiss other males out of platonic love and respect, like kissing my father's head and hands or kissing the babies because they are cute.

But there is a missing link here. We need more clarification from the original poster on the nature of their LGBT case.

Well...I may understand that homosexual sex is not allowed because two male organs are not complementary.
but two mouths are always complementary

 

[Matemkar]

Well...I may understand that homosexual sex is not allowed because two male organs are not complementary.
but two mouths are always complementary

As for the cuddling, kisses, etc. I believe it is forbidden even between man and wife to do those in public. But they can do and should do those in privacy/seclusion. And if a homosexual "couple" do that in privacy, I don't think they would be stopped either. Islamically you don't go check out people's privacy. They can do whatever they want in private, but is it legit is another issue.

do you mean between wife and husband ?

Salam. I believe he means between the 'couples' of same genders.

And something is "gross" to us doesn't make it necessarily gross for others. And it is due to cultures, raising and other things. We shouldn't attach feelings/emotions to the rules.

Please see this video inshaAllah. Skip to 16:20 and on where the Sheikh makes a great point:

Human Islam Lecture 05 on Vimeo

And if I may, I suggest everyone watches it. Maybe even the whole lecture. It is amazing.

Hello,
I am a lgbt individual who is wanting to convert to islam. I know of an imam in the U.S. who interprets the holy quran as not being against homosexuality. I am wanting a relationship with someone so living single is not an option for me. Does islam allow me?

Salam and welcome to the forum. I hope you like it here.

I need to say that, I am against homosexuality for many reasons, main one, its being against the nature, i.e. procreation. And its spread would mean the end of the human race.

However, if a male does not feel man-ish, or a female does not feel woman-ish, Islamically, they are free to have SRS.

http://english.bayynat.org.lb/jurisprudence/sex.htm

(Please skip to the "sex reassignment surgery" part)

BUT if you are happy with your physical body and you need someone alike as a marital company, I need to say that, it is not approved by many. But neither what people think should matter to you. And, I don't think this should be a primary thing in your embracing faith.

If you believe in God, Hereafter and the Prophets, then you are a Muslim. You surely can proclaim it to yourself and to the world.

As for jurisprudential matters, like this case, I believe, the issue whether or not homosexuality is allowed should not be a barrier to proclaim this. You can differ with people on whether God allows it or not, but still you and them would believe in the absolute deity, hereafter and prophethood. So, I believe, the secondary issues regarding jurisprudance should not be an obstacle in your and their proclaim of faith and practices for God.

In time, you study the issues more (i.e. the philosophy people believe why it is permissible or not), and then you either change your mind on its permissibilty or not. Again, as ametist and goodobeyer suggested, that you believe in the pillars of faith and you are continuing to have a journey towards God is really great. And we admire and congratulate you. And may all our journeys be continuous until we reach perfection/God.

It is nice to hear again. May it be blessed. ma salam

 

[Smart_Guy]

Well...I may understand that homosexual sex is not allowed because two male organs are not complementary.
but two mouths are always complementary

It is because it adds up and could lead to the forbidden. A mouth to mouth kiss is an act of lustful love most of the time and that gives fears that it will highly lead to the forbidden sex.

Also the looks of it. It does not look right to me.

That's my interpretation that I apply on myself however and I see it makes sense. Other Islamic trends could have different sayings. Don't let it bother you too much