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savagewind

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First of all, not everyone is to teach,

1 Corinthians 12:28-29 (ESV Strong's) 28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?

Second, I believe all Christians make disciples of Jesus by,

Matthew 5:16 (ESV Strong's) 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

Our actions speak louder than words ever can!
Now is the time for thinking. Not "everybody is to teach", says you, but you say Jesus says that to make disciples is something that is commanded. The way to make a disciple is to teach, but not everybody is for teaching. Please tell us why there is a direct command in the Bible, but it not clear who it is for.
 

savagewind

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Haha, so anyone with a good personality can teach without going to collage to learn HOW to teach? Collage teaches one how and what to teach, being a GOOD and EFFECTIVE teacher depends on personality and heart for the job, they cannot be taught. Did YOU go to school?
Oh, brother.....I am sure that I have better things to do. Thank you for talki9ng to me.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Now is the time for thinking. Not "everybody is to teach", says you, but you say Jesus says that to make disciples is something that is commanded. The way to make a disciple is to teach, but not everybody is for teaching. Please tell us why there is a direct command in the Bible, but it not clear who it is for.

Correct.

This is what we are to teach,

Matthew 28:19-20 (ESV Strong's) 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.

Not everyone is to TEACH by WORDS, but by our walk with the Lord.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
Haha, so anyone with a good personality can teach without going to collage to learn HOW to teach? Collage teaches one how and what to teach, being a GOOD and EFFECTIVE teacher depends on personality and heart for the job, they cannot be taught. Did YOU go to school?

Oh, brother.....I am sure that I have better things to do. Thank you for talki9ng to me.

I'm guessing here, but I don't think you agree with my statement? You believe that anyone with a desire to be a teacher and has a good personality can be a teacher, without going to collage and learning how to teach what they want to teach? All one needs is a desire to teach and a good personality?
 

savagewind

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I'm guessing here, but I don't think you agree with my statement? You believe that anyone with a desire to be a teacher and has a good personality can be a teacher, without going to collage and learning how to teach what they want to teach? All one needs is a desire to teach and a good personality?
No.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Correct.

This is what we are to teach,

Matthew 28:19-20 (ESV Strong's) 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.

Not everyone is to TEACH by WORDS, but by our walk with the Lord.
We agree! Hallelujah
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
The dog is dying..........And dying dogs are worrisome. Sometimes I look real close at her breathing to be sure she hasn't died yet. I think she will hang on for a long. long time. It is because she loves me.
 

Faithofchristian

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First of all who is Jesus speaking to?

In Matthew 7:22-23, many people are being taught that Jesus is speaking to the Jews at this time, which is correct, but then if people would look at what Jesus is saying in the spirit of the word. Then we find Jesus not only speaking to those that are there.
But also to all those down throughout the ages to the tribulation period.

So the question to ask is, What group of people in the world, would be out giving Prophecy and doing many wonderful works in the name of Christ Jesus.
Other than Christians?

So that of Matthew 7:22-23, is also about christians.
But now the other question comes, Which Christians ? There are two Christians in the world, but who is who?

In Matthew 24:4-5 Jesus speaking, saying, "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you, For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and shall deceive many"

Notice Jesus said that many shall come in his name Christ. What people in the world comes in the name of Christ?

The name Christ is abbreviated for Christian.
Christ = Christian.
Therefore Christians are the only ones who comes in the name of Christ.
But which Christians are they, you have the false Christians and the true Christians.

Jesus said many shall come in his name and shall deceive many. So you have those that are the false Christians and the true Christians.

Jesus said ( many ) this means not everyone,
Let's say, that you have a million people, and you say many shall come in my name, So your not including everyone.
But if you were to say, everyone, now your including everyone in that million people.

So many shall come out of that million to deceive many.
So not all Christians are included, only those Christians who are deceiving many people.

Who are the True and False Christians ?
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
First of all who is Jesus speaking to?

In Matthew 7:22-23, many people are being taught that Jesus is speaking to the Jews at this time, which is correct, but then if people would look at what Jesus is saying in the spirit of the word. Then we find Jesus not only speaking to those that are there.
But also to all those down throughout the ages to the tribulation period.

So the question to ask is, What group of people in the world, would be out giving Prophecy and doing many wonderful works in the name of Christ Jesus.
Other than Christians?

So that of Matthew 7:22-23, is also about christians.
But now the other question comes, Which Christians ? There are two Christians in the world, but who is who?

In Matthew 24:4-5 Jesus speaking, saying, "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you, For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and shall deceive many"

Notice Jesus said that many shall come in his name Christ. What people in the world comes in the name of Christ?

The name Christ is abbreviated for Christian.
Christ = Christian.
Therefore Christians are the only ones who comes in the name of Christ.
But which Christians are they, you have the false Christians and the true Christians.

Jesus said many shall come in his name and shall deceive many. So you have those that are the false Christians and the true Christians.
OK. It is what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach. I don't have to believe it.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
OK. It is what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach. I don't have to believe it.

That's where you have to use your choice, where anyone is teaching the truth. Anyone can say, they have the truth, but it comes down to your choice whether they do or not. This is where God's word comes into play, knowing what God's word actually does say. Will help you to know, who is who. What truth is, false or true..
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
That's where you have to use your choice, where anyone is teaching the truth. Anyone can say, they have the truth, but it comes down to your choice whether they do or not. This is where God's word comes into play, knowing what God's word actually does say. Will help you to know, who is who. What truth is, false or true..
That is not something you learned by the study of God's Word. What you posted is contrary to what the meaning of scripture is. I don't care to tell you why because every time I do people say, "I can't hear you!". If I wasn't so busy, I would try.
 

Faithofchristian

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That is not something you learned by the study of God's Word. What you posted is contrary to what the meaning of scripture is. I don't care to tell you why because every time I do people say, "I can't hear you!". If I wasn't so busy, I would try.

Why do you care what people will say or think.
It's what you care about and think.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why do you care what people will say or think.
It's what you care about and think.
The World is NOT about what I care and think.
Truth is not what people "have" like you have said, "Anyone can say, they have the truth, but it comes down to your choice whether they do or not."
Why do I care? It is because knowing should be a personal experience and it should build on more knowing. To believe you have the truth is to stop growing. To stop growing is the start of dying. I am not for dying. I am for living.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
The World is NOT about what I care and think.
Truth is not what people "have" like you have said, "Anyone can say, they have the truth, but it comes down to your choice whether they do or not."
Why do I care? It is because knowing should be a personal experience and it should build on more knowing. To believe you have the truth is to stop growing. To stop growing is the start of dying. I am not for dying. I am for living.

What I meant, why do you care about what people will say or think.
It's what you think that counts.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
The World is NOT about what I care and think.
Truth is not what people "have" like you have said, "Anyone can say, they have the truth, but it comes down to your choice whether they do or not."
Why do I care? It is because knowing should be a personal experience and it should build on more knowing. To believe you have the truth is to stop growing. To stop growing is the start of dying. I am not for dying. I am for living.
Everyone has the "truth", the problem is that it has been misplaced by most and they don't even know they lost it.
 
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