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- Thread starter savagewind
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It isn't? How is it not a story? If you don't believe it is a story, what is it?
It was a story when it was written. To change the story but keep the other details the same is a crime, imo. If you change the story it becomes your story. Correct? But, they still call it God's story.
djhwoodwerks
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NORMAL is WIEEEEEEEERD feeding weird in all directions. The problem isn't the the text, its the normal person holding the sign that is problematic. and that has zero to do with trump even I don't care. but hell since it's NORMAL WTF, it's just life. I just stick to music....
Yes, that again. It is my only evidence. What would you do with a little bit of evidence? Throw it away? I would call that not wise.Not the, "make doesn't really mean make" again!!
Be wise, my son, and bring joy to my heart; then I can answer anyone who treats me with contempt. Proverbs 27:11
This must be one of those situations where the Abrahamic approach to narrative just leaves me puzzled and scratching my head because of how dramatically different it is from my own. For me, stories told are living narratives, not something to be fossilized and turned into dogma. Changing the story and its delivery to reach your audience is not only normal, but expected. In retelling the stories, they don't stop being "God's story" (or whatever) because it was revised to be contemporary and vibrant for the present and the audience. I take it some people think keeping mythic traditions alive and breathing is heresy or something? That's just weird to me.
To change the meaning of something written in the name of God is contemptible.
And, the only way I see them getting around it is to teach that the modern English Bible is as perfect as what was heard of Jehovah and written down.
And, the only way I see them getting around it is to teach that the modern English Bible is as perfect as what was heard of Jehovah and written down.
Say what? LOL I think that the writers of Abrahamic scriptures had meaning to convey in their stories. Change the story, change the meaning and the original meaning is lost.
If the meaning of scripture is to lead believers out of the darkness and into wisdom, then to change it is a crime against wisdom. Isn't it?
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
Personally I think it's a matter of having weak faith. Getting other people to agree with them serves to alleviate their doubts about the truth of what they claim.
I think there is danger in the spreading of bad seeds. Mark 9:42 Luke 17:2 Matthew 18:6
stvdv
Veteran Member
Amen ! [But thanks for spreading this]
[Thanks SavageWind. My intention was pure, I was just very happy with your POST "....It is whenever they spread it". There was no irony in my mind when writing. Just very pleased to read this, because personally I have a bit of issue with people "spreading" imposing their view on me. Yours was the opposite, making me happy. So this will take out all confusion about that]
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Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Excuse my ignorance, but those sound like the Old Testament....but it is highly probably that I am wrong about that......I am also fairly certain that I do not underrated the emotion and or hostility here.....would it not be better to simply move on and let those go who are not teaching in a way you agree with....
Matthew 5:39 - But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
It depends. Skilled bards understand what the essential elements of the story are that convey the intended meaning. They also have a rich symbolic vocabulary that enables them to swap narrative elements for ones that convey the same intended meaning. In short, it's quite possible to tell a story differently and preserve the intended meaning. In many cases, this is required in order to properly reach the audience.
One of the major reasons I left Christianity as young as I did was because the storytelling of the Bible did not appeal to me. At all. I found it boring. If the same basic stories with the same lessons and meaning were told through a different genre aesthetic that I enjoyed? I'd have listened and loved it. I'm sure my Sunday school teachers felt they were preserving the "original meaning" of the stories by telling them in a traditional fashion. Unfortunately for them, the meaning was simply lost on me because it was completely boring and unappealing.
According to the parable of the sheep and the goats to not do good to even the least of Jesus' brothers to is set yourself on the way to destruction. If I can just get one soul off that way by my posting, it will be worth making trouble for all the rest. Don't you think?
IF they by their changing meaning have eliminated the work of a brother of Jesus, that to me means they have not done him good, but bad.
Do you see how I understand it very differently than they teach it? If I am right, that means they have lost the real meaning of it. Can I help someone find the original meaning? I don't know! You do though. Don't you? You believe I can't. That is your prerogative. You know?
I thought someone might say that. LOL The owners of this forum space may or may not be pleased that someone thinks this is a spreading place. I personally don't. But, I have been wrong about some things.
That means I am not spreading anything, imo.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Turning the other cheek seems so strange. You create thereby a Cheek-hitter. Better turn your back and thereby save him from hitting you
That's why my preference is this one: Religious Forums
"A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on, and are punished"
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Thank you.