IsmailaGodHasHeard
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I have decided to start keeping the Sabbath. I have not left Jesus. On the contrary, I am closer to Him. I feel very strongly about this. I guess I will start saying Shabbot Shalom.
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I have decided to start keeping the Sabbath.
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IsmailaGodHasHeard
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Thank you.
IsmailaGodHasHeard
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I think so.
IsmailaGodHasHeard
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Okay, I will.
IsmailaGodHasHeard
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Proof please.
IsmailaGodHasHeard
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No. The Roman Catholics changed the calender, but the Christians did not.
I have decided to start keeping the Sabbath.
There are two distinct definitions of the word sabbath.
There is the one where it is the seventh day of the week. (Saturday)
Then there is a spiritual rest Sabbath that is everyday.
The former sabbath is celebrated physically on the day appointed by the law handed down to Moses. (Ten Commandments)
The ladder sabbath is a spiritual picture of the physical Sabbath celebrated within each one of us as resting from the works of righteousness required by the physical Sabbath law.
Only God Himself could fulfill the whole of the Ten Commandments perfectly!
He did it in one day.
The day He did it in was taken out of time, that day not to be numbered with the weeks, months and years. Completely taken out of time and cast away forever.
Ref: Job 3:4 Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it.
Job 3:5 Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it.
Job 3:6 As for that night, let darkness seize upon it; let it not be joined unto the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months.
What day is it talking about? Surely not the Sabbath day.
So what day would you think it's talking about that would dramatically change the course of human history?
Well, you've read where Jesus was in the tomb only 2-1/2 days?
Let's see, the day before the Sabbath is Friday, so if he was laid in the tomb on the eve of the Sabbath and was resurrected Sunday morning, count the number of days that would be.
Friday eve to Saturday eve is one, Saturday eve to Sunday eve is two and He resurrected early Sunday morning. 1/2 a day short of Sunday eve.
That makes it 2-1/2 days.
The bible states of three days: Mar 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Is there a contradiction there? No!
In order for God to institute a new covenant he must do away with the first one.
Ref:Isa 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
he told us: Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
What was the old? Made of two tablets of stone?
Eze 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
Now flesh?
Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment (New covenant written in hearts of flesh))upon an old (Stone tablets=hearts of stone); if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
Are we defining the difference yet?
Deference defined 1. of the letter (law) and 2. Spirit (Spiritual law) 2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
1. The letter killeth =law condemns
2. The spirit giveth life.
Which one you prefer?
So if God chose to make of two distinct covenants one, then He must make it a new one.Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
One new man? You mean a new creation? Unlike the first creation (Physical) but like a new Adam (spiritual) creatures?
You see the distiction between what is physical and what is spiritual. (Stone/flesh)
Let's get back to the three days in the tomb to ascertain the real Sabbath day.
If the day be taken out of time, "that day" "darkness be upon it" that be Friday is taken out of time, that be the first day. Saturday then fall in it's place making it the second day. Sunday follows Saturday and fills the Saturday slot making it the Spiritual Sabbath day. Or Sunday, being the first day of the week moved to fill the Saturday moved to the Fridays slot.
That is how God broke the "time span" splitting the old from the new, making Jesus the beginning of a new Kingdom which shall never end.
Sunday being the first day of a new week, is a picture of the old week fulfilled and a new week instituted; one of which has no end.
So, dear friend, worship God how you believe it in your heart to do, whether it be on the physical Sabbath day or on spiritual day Sabbath which is every day in your heart.
You have Jesus as your sabbath, for he worked the physical Sabbath out for us, liberating us to rest in Him for our work of righteousness in His.
Seventh Day believers are loved just the same by God, for remember, God looks at the heart of which it is and not at your works.
The only works of salvation God looks at are Jesus'.
I ceased to work for my salvation because I rest in His work.
blessings, AJ
There are two distinct definitions of the word sabbath.
There is the one where it is the seventh day of the week. (Saturday)
Then there is a spiritual rest Sabbath that is everyday.
The former sabbath is celebrated physically on the day appointed by the law handed down to Moses. (Ten Commandments)
The ladder sabbath is a spiritual picture of the physical Sabbath celebrated within each one of us as resting from the works of righteousness required by the physical Sabbath law.
Only God Himself could fulfill the whole of the Ten Commandments perfectly!
He did it in one day.
The day He did it in was taken out of time, that day not to be numbered with the weeks, months and years. Completely taken out of time and cast away forever.
Ref: Job 3:4 Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it.
Job 3:5 Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it.
Job 3:6 As for that night, let darkness seize upon it; let it not be joined unto the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months.
What day is it talking about? Surely not the Sabbath day.
So what day would you think it's talking about that would dramatically change the course of human history?
Well, you've read where Jesus was in the tomb only 2-1/2 days?
Let's see, the day before the Sabbath is Friday, so if he was laid in the tomb on the eve of the Sabbath and was resurrected Sunday morning, count the number of days that would be.
Friday eve to Saturday eve is one, Saturday eve to Sunday eve is two and He resurrected early Sunday morning. 1/2 a day short of Sunday eve.
That makes it 2-1/2 days.
The bible states of three days: Mar 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Is there a contradiction there? No!
In order for God to institute a new covenant he must do away with the first one.
Ref:Isa 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
he told us: Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
What was the old? Made of two tablets of stone?
Eze 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
Now flesh?
Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment (New covenant written in hearts of flesh))upon an old (Stone tablets=hearts of stone); if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
Are we defining the difference yet?
Deference defined 1. of the letter (law) and 2. Spirit (Spiritual law) 2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
1. The letter killeth =law condemns
2. The spirit giveth life.
Which one you prefer?
So if God chose to make of two distinct covenants one, then He must make it a new one.Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
One new man? You mean a new creation? Unlike the first creation (Physical) but like a new Adam (spiritual) creatures?
You see the distiction between what is physical and what is spiritual. (Stone/flesh)
Let's get back to the three days in the tomb to ascertain the real Sabbath day.
If the day be taken out of time, "that day" "darkness be upon it" that be Friday is taken out of time, that be the first day. Saturday then fall in it's place making it the second day. Sunday follows Saturday and fills the Saturday slot making it the Spiritual Sabbath day. Or Sunday, being the first day of the week moved to fill the Saturday moved to the Fridays slot.
That is how God broke the "time span" splitting the old from the new, making Jesus the beginning of a new Kingdom which shall never end.
Sunday being the first day of a new week, is a picture of the old week fulfilled and a new week instituted; one of which has no end.
So, dear friend, worship God how you believe it in your heart to do, whether it be on the physical Sabbath day or on spiritual day Sabbath which is every day in your heart.
You have Jesus as your sabbath, for he worked the physical Sabbath out for us, liberating us to rest in Him for our work of righteousness in His.
Seventh Day believers are loved just the same by God, for remember, God looks at the heart of which it is and not at your works.
The only works of salvation God looks at are Jesus'.
I ceased to work for my salvation because I rest in His work.
blessings, AJ
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
lol yeah, Cause there were just so many great communities of Christians. And Lord knows Catholics are not Christians :thud:
I believe I can explain that.
I used to be a deacon in the church, song leader and choir director. I was young and passionate about my work.
After some time in that capacity I felt that I was trying to be to good in order to maintain my appearance of holiness, kind of puffing me up.
God showed me where I needed to make an attitude adjustment, when as I was leading the congregation in a song, I thought had wonderful words to which I thought the congregation should have responded excitingly.
To my anger they weren't! So I begin to sigh and was noticed by the pastor to which He brought it to my attention.
After that, I had to be humbled by the Lord to teach me that He was in control and not I.
So, by going against the grain, you will be different from the norm in that you will attempt to hold to the requirements of observing the Sabbath on the Sabbath and not on Sunday's.
To which will add to your ego a sense of pride when others don't want to see it your way.
When after all, it is our choice to worship how we please and we ought not try to place our morals on others as being perfect for them to.
If you can remain humble and practice what you want, then that is admirable.
Blessings, AJ
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It's wonderful to have a day of rest! We keep the sabbath by not shopping, trying not to work (exceptions for police, doctors etc.) - just a day of prayer, scriptures study, meditation, church, visiting with friends and family, writing in journals. Our group has expanded it to also not watching TV / listening to non-spiritual music, etc. etc. - to just turn it all off, and enjoy some peace for one day. It really is refreshing! (although we do this on Sunday - a new day to celebrate the resurrection of our Lord and Savior)
How do you keep the sabbath?