I have no use for God

[mikkel_the_dane]

Surely, this is one of the most ridiculous posts ever on this website. To say that you have no use for the Creator is at once silly and pathetic. IMHO

No, and I am Mikkel_the_Dane. It makes perfect sense to me. And yet I am still religious. But we all do it differently.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Did you "find God"
To conclude "I have no use for God"?
Otherwise how do you know?

Some claim "I have no use of a girlfriend"
Then they "get one" AND "use her a lot"

They were just unaware
Due to lack of experience

Stop it. There is no way to God, many roads to many Gods and only one way to God.
You should know this.

 

[stvdv]

Stop it. There is no way to God, many roads to many Gods and only one way to God.
You should know this.

You seem to have replied to another post

 

[RestlessSoul]

A very good point, since theists often seem to forget that they disbelieve in all the deities atheists do, all but 1. So when they claim to have experienced very different deities, one has to infer the interpretation is as subjective as the experience.

All experiences are subjective Sheldon, and it is not a denial of objective reality to assert that no first person perspective can ever fully capture it.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. - Seneca

Gibbon says this in his preface to his History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

“The various modes of worship which prevailed in the Roman world were all considered by the people as equally true; by the philosopher as equally false; and by the magistrate as equally useful.”
― Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire​

 

[Wandering Monk]

It could be a situation where a child has got money and real estate from the parents and later they say they don't need their parents. There are many people who use the streets built by the government using citizens' money saying "I don't need anyone". There are children who are fed by their parents till they grow up and then say "I don't need anyone".

First you would need to demonstrate that 'the parents'; exist and left the child the money, empirically. Parents and governments can be shown to be real empirically. God/gods cannot by definition since they are immaterial, therefore not subject to examination.

 

[Wandering Monk]

As can the efficacy of faith, though probably not to your satisfaction Sheldon, as it appears you have set your heart and mind against all possibility of God.

Have you set your heart and mind against all possibility of Brahma or Odin?

 

[firedragon]

First you would need to demonstrate that 'the parents'; exist and left the child the money, empirically. Parents and governments can be shown to be real empirically. God/gods cannot by definition since they are immaterial, therefore not subject to examination.

So you don't have any faith in anything that cannot be subject to physical examination? Is that your epistemology.

 

[LuisDantas]

So you don't have any faith in anything that cannot be subject to physical examination? Is that your epistemology.

You made a claim. He/she/they are showing that the premises are all undemonstrated at best.

Jumping from that to this claim of yours is not very respectful nor very wise.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Have you set your heart and mind against all possibility of Brahma or Odin?

Brahma, I have certainly not set my mind against, no. That sounds an awful lot to me like another way of saying God. Odin, either as an avatar of Brahma or a personification of God, isn’t something I can personally relate to, but if others can I say good luck them.

 

[Nakosis]

@Nakosis
When you 'received the Knowledge" from Balyogeshwar, did you believe you were shown God directly?
(I'm just curious )

At the time, of course.
Is it, was it God just because we were told it was God?
IDK. The experience is what it is, to call it God?
Even if it is God, I don't feel the need for such an experience.
I'm ok with the way life is sans God. No offense to any God which may actually exist.

 

[Nakosis]

Dear Nakosis,

I think it lovely that you have acquired skills to handle your own inner self. One’s sense of independence is a valuable one.

That said; to me, your thread may only make real sense to those who either do not believe in God or to those who see the concept of god(s) as man-made.

To those who do believe in God, it may be harder to see why Man’s sense of not “having use of” God, would matter.


Humbly
Hermit

OK, but life is fine, things are going well without involving God for me. I understand some feel they have to involve God in their lives.

 

[Nakosis]

It could be a situation where a child has got money and real estate from the parents and later they say they don't need their parents. There are many people who use the streets built by the government using citizens' money saying "I don't need anyone". There are children who are fed by their parents till they grow up and then say "I don't need anyone".

Sure if others still need the support of God, I understand. I'm happy if God devotes their time to them if that is what a God does.

 

[Nakosis]

It was you all along and your right, there is no real need for an imaginary mental sock puppet to do all the 'guiding' and such once you see it for what it is.

Yes, ok for me and you. Some can't imagine life without a God running about.

 

[Nakosis]

Did you "find God"
To conclude "I have no use for God"?
Otherwise how do you know?

Some claim "I have no use of a girlfriend"
Then they "get one" AND "use her a lot"

They were just unaware
Due to lack of experience

Thought I did, and I won't lie and say at the time God wasn't useful.
I guess I got whatever I needed from the experienced and moved on.

 

[Nakosis]

I don't know the future
Glad I started early with my "God Quest"
Now I'm "ready" if troubles arise
(Establishing God contact took a while)

Glad you feel supported.
Since I don't need anything from God they can spend more time/resources with you.

 

[Nakosis]

I don't know the future
Glad I started early with my "God Quest"
Now I'm "ready" if troubles arise
(Establishing God contact took a while)

I see so without God you'd be worried about the future.
I'm not worried about the future. Whatever comes, I'll deal with it or I won't. No need for me to involve God.

 

[Nakosis]

You don't believe in anything higher than your own ego guiding the way for itself? Nothing to rise above in yourself, habits to break, hills to climb, ego to transcend? If yes to any of those, than a "higher power" can be useful to rise above yourself.

I'm curious, did you used to view God as some person who would fix your problems for you? If so, I understand this 'need to pull myself up by my own bootstraps' response. I'd just say there is more to it than that however.

Honesty, I felt "God" or whatever, perhaps just my subconscious mind, led me down a path. Now here I am. I don't need to be led anymore.
If God exists, they are free to spend their time on those who still need it.

 

[Nakosis]

If you mean it's like some gnat that exists somewhere and it doesn't bother you so you have no feelings about it one way or the other?

I don't harbor any concept about whether God exist or not nor what they are like if they do.
But, yes, if A god does exist, I'm fine with them going about their business and staying out of my life.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Honesty, I felt "God" or whatever, perhaps just my subconscious mind, led me down a path. Now here I am. I don't need to be led anymore.
If God exists, they are free to spend their time on those who still need it.

Do you believe in e.g. human rights? Or say that other humans have a positive value simply by being humans. Or some for of humanism? It doesn't have to be God.