I have some deep question about God, help!

[Trailblazer]

Are you suggesting, then, that Christ Jesus was not the promised Messiah but it was in fact Bahá'u'lláh?

I am saying that Jesus Christ was "a Messiah" but He was not "the Messiah" of the latter days who would come at the time of the end. I am saying that Baha'u'llah was the return of the Christ Spirit, the Comforter and the Spirit of truth that Jesus promised to send in John 14, 15 and 16, and the Messiah promised in the OT prophecies.

Isaiah is about both Jesus and Baha'u'llah. Two reasons the Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah was because Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies and Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.

The Book of Isaiah announces that the Messiah will conquer the East and the West, and all nations of the world will come under His shadow, that His Kingdom will be established, that He will come from an unknown place, that the sinners will be judged, and that justice will prevail to such a degree that the wolf and the lamb, the leopard and the kid, the sucking child and the asp, shall all gather at one spring, and in one meadow, and one dwelling. 4 The first coming was also under these conditions, though outwardly none of them came to pass. Therefore, the Jews rejected Christ, and, God forbid! called the Messiah masíkh, 5 considered Him to be the destroyer of the edifice of God, regarded Him as the breaker of the Sabbath and the Law, and sentenced Him to death. Nevertheless, each one of these conditions had a signification that the Jews did not understand; therefore, they were debarred from perceiving the truth of Christ.

The second coming of Christ also will be in like manner: the signs and conditions which have been spoken of all have meanings, and are not to be taken literally.

Some Answered Questions, p. 111

 

[dybmh]

@A94,

Below are good examples of "preachy".

Thank you for clarifying

To answer your questions, indirect evidence is frequently and consistently relied upon to ascertain the reality of our world. As a case in point, it's long been widely used to show that our Sun generates power via nuclear fusion, hydrogen is present in it or that our planet features an iron core. In like manner, the fact that there are dozens upon dozens of fulfilled Bible prophecies constitutes probative evidence of the existence of its author, Jehovah God.

This fact is, by far, the most compelling logical reason why millions upon millions of rational people today the world over only accept the Bible as the Inspired Word of Jehovah God. Simply no other book – religious or not – comes with such illustrious prominence. Because it's impossible for any person to foresee with complete precision what's sure to occur from one hour to the next, there's no two ways about it: Bible prophecies are not of natural origin.

It necessarily follows, then, that everything, every single last detail recorded with its pages is the truth.


Does this answer your questions?

 

[Maximilian]

I am saying that Jesus Christ was "a Messiah" but He was not "the Messiah" of the latter days who would come at the time of the end.

Thing is nowhere in the Holy Scriptures are two messiahs promised, only one. And if you really believe Christ was the Messiah then it follows perforce that Baha'u'llah, like Muhammad, Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White, David Koresh, Raël, L. Ron Hubbard, etc., etc., is another of the false messiahs Christ warned against. (Matthew 24:24)

This is not comforting for you, I can only imagine, but it is the truth and what's more important than truth?

 

[Maximilian]

@A94,

Below are good examples of "preachy".

And truth matters.

Jesus himself explained, "True worshipers . . . worship the Father." -John 4:23 (Emphasis mine)

"Everyone who did not believe the truth ... will be condemned." -2 Thessalonians 2:12

 

[nPeace]

I see you cited 2 Peter so I’m assuming you’re not arguing this as a Jew or Muslim but instead as a Christian? How did you know which one to pick?

I don't understand. What do you mean?
Do you mean, how did I know that Peter mentioned the account with Balaam?
After reading the Bible for some time, you become familiar with what it says, and who said what, and so on.
Yes, I am a follower of Christ Christian.

God gave everyone the freedom to chose their own destiny. So when a devout believer develops Alzheimer’s or schizophrenia does this still apply? If after developing that disease, they think they are a Martian, they are god and everyone who doesn’t like spaghetti needs to be slaughtered - are they truly & genuinely exercising that free will, freedom to chose?

What about after a lobotomy or a traumatic brain injury when afterwards the persons personality completely changes and they are a militant atheist- still apply then?

Do you have the idea that God is giving people what they have... so if someone has AIDS, God gave them?
I don't understand freedom of choice to have anything to do with sickness, and deterioration leading to death.
We can choose to smoke ourselves to death, or we can choose to follow a good healthy routine, but we can't choose if we will get hit by some drunk driver, or if we will be born to parents with serious genetic defects, and we develop some illness...
That is another matter all together, isn't it?

 

[Trailblazer]

Thank you for clarifying

To answer your questions, indirect evidence is frequently and consistently relied upon to ascertain the reality of our world. As a case in point, it's long been widely used to show that our Sun generates power via nuclear fusion, hydrogen is present in it or that our planet features an iron core. In like manner, the fact that there are dozens upon dozens of fulfilled Bible prophecies constitutes probative evidence of the existence of its author, Jehovah God.

This fact is, by far, the most compelling logical reason why millions upon millions of rational people today the world over only accept the Bible as the Inspired Word of Jehovah God. Simply no other book – religious or not – comes with such illustrious prominence. Because it's impossible for any person to foresee with complete precision what's sure to occur from one hour to the next, there's no two ways about it: Bible prophecies are not of natural origin.

It necessarily follows, then, that everything, every single last detail recorded with its pages is the truth.

Does this answer your questions?

Thanks for explaining that. You are preaching to the choir.

I know that evidence is often direct, especially as it applies to religion, but that does not make it any less true. God is not going to come barrelling down from the sky in person and reveal Himself directly because God is not a person.

I cannot say that I know how or why, but I have to agree that the Bible prophecies are accurate, for the simple reason that I can see their fulfillment in both Jesus and Baha'u'llah.

You will have to forgive me for not knowing more about the Bible, since I was not raised as a Christian. I was not raised in any religion and I never read one Bible verse until 2013 when I first started to come to forums and talk to Christians. That is when the learning began; I learned from Christians and from reading the Bible online, but I never read the Bible in its entirety. A few years ago, I purchased two courses from Great Courses on the OT and NT but I never had time to view them.

I have to admit that my experience with Christians has been less than positive, because they normally just condemn me to hell because I do not believe in Jesus the same way they do. But I know it is not right to think all Christians are the same just because I had these experiences and I know different Christians believe differently, very differently. Moreover, it is not Christians with whom I have any bones to pick, it is the doctrines of the Church. I also believe that Paul changed the course of Christianity and got it off track from what Jesus taught.

Can you explain why you call God Jehovah God? Do you believe God is a person? Do you believe Jesus was God incarnate?

 

[Trailblazer]

"Wikipedia is not a reliable source." -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use

Why not? How can I know I am getting an unbiased source?

 

[nPeace]

Thanks for explaining that. You are preaching to the choir.

I know that evidence is often direct, especially as it applies to religion, but that does not make it any less true. God is not going to come barrelling down from the sky in person and reveal Himself directly because God is not a person.

I cannot say that I know how or why, but I have to agree that the Bible prophecies are accurate, for the simple reason that I can see their fulfillment in both Jesus and Baha'u'llah.

You will have to forgive me for not knowing more about the Bible, since I was not raised as a Christian. I was not raised in any religion and I never read one Bible verse until 2013 when I first started to come to forums and talk to Christians. That is when the learning began; I learned from Christians and from reading the Bible online, but I never read the Bible in its entirety. A few years ago, I purchased two courses from Great Courses on the OT and NT but I never had time to view them.

I have to admit that my experience with Christians has been less than positive, because they normally just condemn me to hell because I do not believe in Jesus the same way they do. But I know it is not right to think all Christians are the same just because I had these experiences and I know different Christians believe differently, very differently. Moreover, it is not Christians with whom I have any bones to pick, it is the doctrines of the Church. I also believe that Paul changed the course of Christianity and got it off track from what Jesus taught.

Can you explain why you call God Jehovah God? Do you believe God is a person? Do you believe Jesus was God incarnate?

I really appreciate you sharing that Trailblazer.
Can I ask... why do you "believe that Paul changed the course of Christianity and got it off track from what Jesus taught"?

 

[JChnsc19]

I don't understand. What do you mean?
Do you mean, how did I know that Peter mentioned the account with Balaam?
After reading the Bible for some time, you become familiar with what it says, and who said what, and so on.
Yes, I am a follower of Christ Christian.


Do you have the idea that God is giving people what they have... so if someone has AIDS, God gave them?
I don't understand freedom of choice to have anything to do with sickness, and deterioration leading to death.
We can choose to smoke ourselves to death, or we can choose to follow a good healthy routine, but we can't choose if we will get hit by some drunk driver, or if we will be born to parents with serious genetic defects, and we develop some illness...
That is another matter all together, isn't it?

I’m asking how did you decide which religion to pick.

And I was a Christian for 43 yrs, I know all about free will. I’m asking how someone, with a diseased or defective brain as in Alzheimer’s or after a traumatic brain injury to the frontal lobe, is able to truly have free will.

Your pastor may get in a terrible car wreck & have a traumatic brain injury with extensive frontal lobe damage. He now thinks it’s his calling to fill up the toilet with tin foil all day, his granddaughters baby doll is his real baby, he’s kicking punching & biting anyone who tries to help him with personal care, he has dug into a spot on his arm to the point where the muscle is showing and now has to be restrained to protect himself. He has no concept of god let alone who his wife is of 33 years. And in fact the other day his family caught him in the bathroom wiping with bible pages.

I’m a nurse, this stuff is real, this really happens. Yet would you argue your once former pastor of 20 yrs is exercising free will? Seriously....

 

[Trailblazer]

Even if that were actually the case, and it's not, that's wholly irrelevant. Irrespective of who God's amanuenses were, the Bible expresses God's thoughts, not man's; it is the Word of God, not man.

Accordingly, every single detail it contains is complete and absolute truth.

I do not know any Christians who would say the the Bible is inerrant. Even an avid Trinitarian I know who has completed seminary school and has an MA in biblical studies said the Bible is not inerrant. That does not mean it is not the truth, it just means there could be errors in transcription.

I can say the same thing about the Writings of Baha'u'llah being the absolute truth and I would have more reason to say it because we have the Original Writings of Baha'u'llah, who was a Manifestation of God. Nobody who wrote the Bible was a Manifestation of God so it was all second hand and as everyone knows all of the Gospels came by way of oral tradition decades after Jesus walked the earth, Most of the NT authors did not even know Jesus, so how could those be the exact words of Jesus?

Nevertheless, if the Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit, as I believe it was, then it is the Word of God through men.

 

[Bird123]

Hello,
I have some questions, that I can't find the answers to. (I'm still learning.)
I've been studying and asking God to show me answers to these questions, and yet I'm still so lost.
Hoping someone can help me out a little.

If God is all-loving, why is there a hell, and why do people constantly die needlessly and innocently?
(E.G. People dying of horrific things like being merely beaten to death by someone they never even knew, or suddenly contracting illness? Or dying of starvation, because they're so poor and couldn't get help? There are worse innocent deaths that happen all the time, but I'd rather not make this too graphic. You get the picture.)

Also, why is there a hell? The punishment of hells pain, torture and eternal fire is so sickening to think of. And thinking of the people who will go there, simply because they never knew God, or just happened to get caught up in something wrong, for a time and died. Eternal pain is the worst thing to experience. How is this love?
The bible states that his love is unconditional, but this seems to be a very conditional situation, to me. I'm confused.

If God is perfect and omnipotent, why does this all even exist? Can't he just wipe it all out, and destroy satan?
He is perfect, yet a mistake was made when satan was allowed to come in and interfere in the garden of eden, was it not? Should he not have interfered, then?
Also, being all-knowing, should he not have seen this all coming and prevented it?
Why would he chose to let us live in a world like this?
Also, how is having a choice between God, a perfect heaven of fluffy clouds vs. Eternal suffering and burning free will? It seems like a very forced choice to me, because who in their right mind would choose the latter?
I know the bible says in the end times God will do his final justice once and for all and make things right. However, that will still involve a lot of people going to hell, and I don't understand why he must let us suffer this way, until then.

Not looking to argue or get into anything, as religious discussions tend to go... just really, honestly looking for answers.
Hoping someone can help me understand these things.
Thank you.

If one is really searching for answers about God,as I see it, watching God's actions will bring much better answers than reading the religious stories and beliefs written by mankind. Religions do not paint a true picture of God. Religions reflect mankind.

Hell and Satan do not exist.

Life is more than simply having it made. Life is the education of God's children. Even though it has never ever been about punishment, people can choose some hard lessons for themselves.

As I see it, we are all Eternal so dying is no more than a Change.

When you come to really understand God and God's actions, the view of the world will change. It has never been a mess. It is a Masterpiece!!

 

[Trailblazer]

Thing is nowhere in the Holy Scriptures are two messiahs promised, only one. And if you really believe Christ was the Messiah then it follows perforce that Baha'u'llah, like Muhammad, Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White, David Koresh, Raël, L. Ron Hubbard, etc., etc., is another of the false messiahs Christ warned against. (Matthew 24:24)

This is not comforting for you, I can only imagine, but it is the truth and what's more important than truth?

The Truth is that Messiah is just a title and there can be more than one Messiah.
The Truth is that Jesus was a Messiah but He is not the Messiah of the latter days.
The Truth is that Baha'u'llah was the return of the Christ Spirit and the Messiah.
The Truth is that Baha'u'llah was the Promised One of all the religions of the past.
The Truth is that Jesus died on the cross and His body never rose from His grave.
The Truth is that the body of Jesus never ascended into the clouds to heaven.
The Truth is that the same man Jesus is never going to return to earth.
The Truth is that Baha'u'llah came and revealed the instructions to His followers so they could build the Kingdom of God on earth, and that is a work in progress.

All this is supported by an accurate interpretation of the Bible, which is what Baha'is have because Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha explained what the Bible really means.

Jesus never promised to return to earth. There is not one verse in the entire Bible where Jesus promised to return to earth. The body of Jesus died and the soul of Jesus ascended to heaven and took on a spiritual body.

Jesus said that He had finished the work that God gave Him to do and He was no more in the world and He was going to the Father. This indicates that Jesus never planned to return (I am no more in the world) and there was no need to return since He finished the work God gave Him to do.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Then in the next chapter you have these verses:

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

These two verses completely negate that Jesus is the King of this world, or that Jesus will ever come to this world to rule it, and they fit perfectly together with John 17:4 and John 17:11. Jesus came into this world to (1) glorify God (glorified thee on the earth) and (2) that I should bear witness unto the truth. He did that so there is no more reason for Jesus to be IN this world again. That is why Jesus said “I am no more in the world.”

Since there is no scripture in the Bible that speaks of the same Jesus returning, Christians can only try to create these by interpreting scriptures to suit themselves.

The entire Old Testament is full of prophecies that refer to a Messiah. Some of these prophecies refer to Jesus but most of them do not refer to Jesus because Jesus did not fulfill those prophecies. For one example of many:

Isaiah 9:6-7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

These prophecies cannot refer to Jesus because Jesus disclaimed being the Mighty God when He called Himself “the Son of God” (John 5:18-47) and in those verses Jesus repudiates the charge that He claimed equality with God. Jesus disclaimed being the everlasting Father when He said, “my Father is greater than I” (John 14:28) and Jesus disclaimed being the Prince of Peace when He said, “I came not to send peace, but a sword” (Matthew 10:34). Jesus disclaimed bearing the government upon His shoulder when He said to “rend onto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's” (Mark 12:17, Matthew 22:21). Jesus disclaimed that He would establish a kingdom where he would rule with judgment and justice forever when He said, “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36).

Isaiah 11:6-9 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

What this means to a Baha’i is that In the future diverse religions and races will become comrades, friends and companions. The contentions of races, the differences of religions, and the barriers between nations will be completely removed, and all will attain perfect union and reconciliation. Eventually, there will be only one religion, the religion of God.

Clearly, Jesus did not fulfill Isaiah 11:6-9 but Jesus promised to fulfill Isaiah 11:6-9 when His Spirit returned in the person of Baha'u'llah.

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

 

[Trailblazer]

I really appreciate you sharing that Trailblazer.
Can I ask... why do you "believe that Paul changed the course of Christianity and got it off track from what Jesus taught"?

Thanks.... I started a thread back in October that explains this.:
How Paul changed the course of Christianity

 

[nPeace]

I’m asking how did you decide which religion to pick.

And I was a Christian for 43 yrs, I know all about free will. I’m asking how someone, with a diseased or defective brain as in Alzheimer’s or after a traumatic brain injury to the frontal lobe, is able to truly have free will.

Your pastor may get in a terrible car wreck & have a traumatic brain injury with extensive frontal lobe damage. He now thinks it’s his calling to fill up the toilet with tin foil all day, his granddaughters baby doll is his real baby, he’s kicking punching & biting anyone who tries to help him with personal care, he has dug into a spot on his arm to the point where the muscle is showing and now has to be restrained to protect himself. He has no concept of god let alone who his wife is of 33 years. And in fact the other day his family caught him in the bathroom wiping with bible pages.

I’m a nurse, this stuff is real, this really happens. Yet would you argue your once former pastor of 20 yrs is exercising free will? Seriously....

Oh. I understand now... I think.
Normally, as you would know, being a nurse and all, people are born with two hands, but sometimes, on rare occasions, due to a defect, some are born with no arms, so they can't use them.
One cannot use what they don't have right?
If the very thing I need to use to do something specific with is gone, then I can't use it.
If my mind, or part of it is gone, then I can't use it.
If the part that is gone is what I need to make a free choice decision, then how am I going to make a free choice decision?
We know there are people who are impotent. They have the organ that was designed for the purpose of reproduction, but they can't reproduce.
I hope that answered the question.

How did I decide which religion to pick?
For me, that was easy.
I was looking to serve God in truth.
I studied the Bible and found that it seemed to be the truth.
I found that there was only one religion that seemed to be teaching what the Bible taught. So I stuck with that.

I can compare my experience of studying what is truth, to a counterfeit detection program federal agents go through.
“Federal agents don’t learn to spot counterfeit money by studying the counterfeits. They study genuine bills until they master the look of the real thing. Then when they see the bogus money they recognize it.”

Throughout the years since then, I have come across all forms of religion, and I easily can spot the counterfeit instantly.
I understand there are about over 30,000 different Christian religions.
Certainly I haven't met them, but I know they are all fake - not the real deal.
How do I know, you might ask?
Simply put, I haven't met them.

Spoiler

I met the salesmen though, but that was a different message.

You see, the very way I came in contact with the truth, is an identifying mark of true religion - like a special mark on the real money.
Here it is...
Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20; Romans 10:13-15
That's just one of the marks. There are others. Here is another...
John 13:35; 1 John 4:21, and another... 1 Corinthians 1:10, and another very important one... John 17:6, 26; Acts 15:16-18
There are other, but those four are the most impressed.

When they place all those special markings on real money, it is to make it almost impossible to duplicate with any precision.
I find the true religion is like that.

 

[nPeace]

Thanks.... I started a thread back in October that explains this.:
How Paul changed the course of Christianity

I'll be sure to take a look. Thanks.

 

[JChnsc19]

Oh. I understand now... I think.
Normally, as you would know, being a nurse and all, people are born with two hands, but sometimes, on rare occasions, due to a defect, some are born with no arms, so they can't use them.
One cannot use what they don't have right?
If the very thing I need to use to do something specific with is gone, then I can't use it.
If my mind, or part of it is gone, then I can't use it.
If the part that is gone is what I need to make a free choice decision, then how am I going to make a free choice decision?
We know there are people who are impotent. They have the organ that was designed for the purpose of reproduction, but they can't reproduce.
I hope that answered the question.

How did I decide which religion to pick?
For me, that was easy.
I was looking to serve God in truth.
I studied the Bible and found that it seemed to be the truth.
I found that there was only one religion that seemed to be teaching what the Bible taught. So I stuck with that.

I can compare my experience of studying what is truth, to a counterfeit detection program federal agents go through.
“Federal agents don’t learn to spot counterfeit money by studying the counterfeits. They study genuine bills until they master the look of the real thing. Then when they see the bogus money they recognize it.”

Throughout the years since then, I have come across all forms of religion, and I easily can spot the counterfeit instantly.
I understand there are about over 30,000 different Christian religions.
Certainly I haven't met them, but I know they are all fake - not the real deal.
How do I know, you might ask?
Simply put, I haven't met them.

Spoiler

I met the salesmen though, but that was a different message.

You see, the very way I learned the truth, is an identifying mark of true religion - like a special mark on the real money.
Here it is...
Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20; Romans 10:13-15
That's just one of the marks. There are others. Here is another...
John 13:35; 1 John 4:21, and another... 1 Corinthians 1:10, and another very important one... John 17:6, 26; Acts 15:16-18
There are other, but those four are the most impressed.

When they place all those special markings on real money, it is to make it almost impossible to duplicate with any precision.
I find the true religion is like that.

I don’t see how that answered the free will thing at all. And how did you determine the Bible is valid?

 

[nPeace]

I don’t see how that answered the free will thing at all.

Perhaps I don't get what you are asking then. I'm sorry.

And how did you determine the Bible is valid?

I examined the evidence, to determine if the Bible is trustworthy, and found it to be.
Why, if so, don't you think it's valid, and what investigation did you carry out?

 

[ManSinha]

Perhaps I don't get what you are asking then. I'm sorry.


I examined the evidence, to determine if the Bible is trustworthy, and found it to be.
Why, if so, don't you think it's valid, and what investigation did you carry out?

When you say you have "examined the Bible" are you referring to the entire compendium of the OT and NT?

 

[ratiocinator]

Why doesn’t progressive revelation make sense to you?

Because (if it's true) it's led to confusion, conflict, persecution, war, suffering, and death. This would make sense if god was a cruel trickster, but it is inconsistent with just, caring, and fair god.

Taken as a whole the Bible prophecies can only refer to Baha’u’llah, if one really studies them and knows how they were fulfilled

Again this "the prophecies are obviously fulfilled if you really study them..." type claims are two a penny.

No, because there is a good reason why God does not deliver a clear and unambiguous message to everyone. Simply put, everyone does not deserve to get such a message and that is one reason God uses Messengers; it separates the wheat from the chaff.

Who are wheat and the chaff? This strategy seems to be selecting for the overly credulous with both the time and inclination to look into all the religions or have the dumb luck to stumble on the right one by accident.

Should everyone get an MD without even going to medical school? Why should belief in God be any different? Some effort is required.

If this is an important message and there are consequences for not acting on it, then it's nothing at all like getting a qualification.

t is not hiding anywhere. It is out there for all to see in the Baha’i Reference Library online.

It's hiding in plain sight - to all outward appearances, it is just another religion with no obvious reason to think it's any different.

We form our characters by the choices we make in life.

How do we make choices? According to our character. This is a chain that goes right back to our nature and nurture - which we had no choice about.

Added: For more on my view on free will see: A Show Of Hands To A Simple Question and A Show Of Hands To A Simple Question

An Omniscient God knows the best way to communicate to humanity; because God knows everything, God knows all the available options. If communication to everyone was the best way God would have employed it. This is what I mean by using logic.

But it isn't logical. You are suspending logic by saying that god must know best even if it makes no sense.

God was just and fair because God has made the same message available to everyone, through Baha’u’llah.

It isn't available to everyone - some have never heard of it. It isn't just and fair because there is no prima facie case that any of the religions are more than empty superstition - yet this god of yours is expecting people to go looking through all of them to try to find something in one of them (or have dumb luck).

It's cruel, arbitrary, unjust, and unfair.

 

[dybmh]

And truth matters...

I know this is a dumb question, but, please humor me. You are human right? You can make mistakes, right? When that happens, do u want me to ignore it or point it out. Because, you did make a false statement in another thread. And if truth is important to you, how should I proceed?

Technically you have made a lot of false statements if they are read literally. Personally, I'm reading everything you are writing as opinions not facts. So it's not a super big deal to me. Plus, I like your enthusiasm, so I don't want to rain on your parade. But since you opened the door and started talking about truth, I would very much appreciate some advice on if \ how you would like me to address any mistatements you have made or might make in the future.