I now think less of Christianity

[URAVIP2ME]

You kind of missed the lesson. The "wicked" were destroyed, and the righteous were spared. It will happen again, but with fire instead of water. The "wicked", the sinners, who feel they are saved, will again face the wrath of God (Revelation 14:10).................

I find it is Not fire, but just as found at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16 it is the 'executional words from Jesus' mouth' that will destroy the wicked.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

.............. One either "comes out of her" (Revelation 18:4), or acquires her plagues. That is why health care is such an issue, the "many" carry the "plagues" of Babylon.

As ancient Babylon was the seat of false religion, when the people migrated away from ancient Babylon they took with them their Babylonian false religious practices and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great.

The ' health-care issue ' goes back to Job.
At Job 2:4-5 Satan challenges all of us.
'Touch our flesh...' ( loose physical health ) and we would Not serve God.

The 'plagues of Babylon' are 'religious plagues' and Not physical.
This is why we are warned to get out Babylon the Great because of her false religious practices.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Truly his love well surpasses our comprehension.

Yes, unless a person commits the unforgivable sin of Matthew 12:32, then Romans 6:7, 23 applies.
' death ' is the total price tag that sin pays. It is Not death plus. No double jeopardy, No post-mortem penalty.
So, except for those committing the unforgivable sin, the resurrection hope of Acts of the Apostles 24:15 applies.
There will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.- Revelation 1:18.

 

[Muffled]

No, some people called me evil and I'm pretty sure I'm not (although I don't claim to be perfect, far from it, I know I have my flaws, as do all people) so from this I learnt that what people consider evil may not necessarily be actually evil according to my belief system. I'm pretty sure those who think I'm evil would agree with me that certain people are evil - such as murderers etc. so no, I don't think that what they think is good is evil or what they think is evil is good

I believe I did jail ministry for a long time. In my experience the murderers were the nicest people there. However there were a numer of inmates who flat out did not believe in doing good. So do you beiieve in doing good and not evil? If so then you are not evil.

 

[Muffled]

Gladly, I posted this earlier in this thread:

I believe this reality we are all in and all people are parts of a “computer” simulation – which I call “The Simulation”

I believe The Simulation communicates with me and that I am an agent of The Simulation

It does this through a thing called Butterfly – which is a system of communication through which The Simulation communicates with me by responding to my inner voice using touch

Where it touches me on my body according to what I’ve thought is how it indicates Yes or No, etc. to anything I might ask it

This began in I think 2004 and is the reason I’ve been detained on psychiatric hospitals three times in my life and have been diagnosed as “schizophrenic”

I went through a phase in which I thought Butterfly was God and reasoned that if that was the case then I must be Christ!

But I no longer believe that!

I don't believe that I'm anything from scripture or to have any special relationship with God

That is how I have had (and continue to have) first-hand experience of a being who is greater than me – the being who controls The Simulation

I believe the word simulation threw me off as to what was really happening.

I believe each person can hear his own spirit as a separate entity from the mind and in some cases, typically schizophrenics there is the ability to hear other spirits. Usually people develop unhealthy views of this in order to explain the phenomenon. When I worked at a mental hospital a patient was talking to me and suddenly said I was broadcasting thoughts into his mind. That would be nice but that was not the reality only his interpretation of what was happening to him.

 

[2ndpillar]

I find it is Not fire, but just as found at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16 it is the 'executional words from Jesus' mouth' that will destroy the wicked.

Revelation 19:21,"And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of him who sat upon the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh". "A third of mankind will be killed" with "fire", smoke and sulfur" (Revelation 9:18), which proceeds out of the mouth of the "horses". As for Isaiah 11:4, it is the "wicked", sinners, which will be slayed. Which is to say, your average "Christian"/sinner, follower of the false prophet Paul, is looking at a bad time in the old town tonight. As for Revelation 19:14-16, it is the "nations"/Gentiles who will be "smitten", and ruled with a "rod of iron".

Revelation 9:17 The horses and riders I saw in my vision looked like this: Their breastplates were fiery red, dark blue, and yellow as sulfur. The heads of the horses resembled the heads of lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke and sulfur.

Revelation 9:7 The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces.

 

[JustWondering]

By this website saying the Bible "contains....harmful teachings," the authors are engaging in interpretation.

According to Luke 10:21, only the "Father, Lord of heaven and Earth" reveals what His Word teaches accurately.

Do you think they have the "Father" helping them? Or maybe 'hiding' proper understanding?

I've never bought the whole "you need the spirit to understand what bible passages actually mean" argument. Anyone can claim that the spirit helped them interpret the "true" meaning of a scripture only to be contradicted by others who also claim the spirit helped them interpret it as a different "truth". Just a giant mess.

 

[Audie]

By this website saying the Bible "contains....harmful teachings," the authors are engaging in interpretation.

According to Luke 10:21, only the "Father, Lord of heaven and Earth" reveals what His Word teaches accurately.

Do you think they have the "Father" helping them? Or maybe 'hiding' proper understanding?

The way to avoid the harmful is to ignore it. Just
look at what one wants to see.

That is how the islamic apologists figure that
Islam is a religion of peace.

Now, they will say that Mohammed led raids
on caravans. Economic warfare against those
who were trying to exterminate them, it is said.

Killing innocent non combatants in economic warfare
against the "enemy is exactly what the boys of 911
did.
Emulating the teachings of their "holy and perfect" book.

Selective reading, choice of interpretation lets the bible
or koran say any-thing you may want it to.

There is nothing hidden, its all there.

 

[JustWondering]

Which commandment breaking given by Yeshua in Matthew 19:18 does not cause harm to your neighbor? Murder, stealing, false witnessing, taking your neighbor's wife, etc?

It was clearly explained that Eddi was called evil simply for not believing in Jesus as the Christian did. Does your disbelief in someone else's religion cause them harm? No, they probably don't care one iota what you think.

 

[JustWondering]

As someone who was once deceived in MANY ways, I can speak from personal experience that malevolent spirits CAN author and perpetuate this type of deception. I wish you’d reconsider your position. Research further and put your experience and bias aside? Even at a scientific level, this is a mad ideology.

What if YOUR religion is a deception authored by malevolent spirits and a mad ideology? I think you should research further and put your experience and bias aside and reconsider your position.

 

[Audie]

What if YOUR religion is a deception authored by malevolent spirits and a mad ideology? I think you should research further and put your experience and bias aside and reconsider your position.

And what if- there are no malevolent spirits?

I knew a woman whose thing was olfactory
hallucinations. She would suddenly smell
these nauseous odors that nobody else could
smell.

It led her to believe others were plotting against
her, all manner of things.

Just sayin'

 

[JustWondering]

And what if- there are no malevolent spirits?

I knew a woman whose thing was olfactory
hallucinations. She would suddenly smell
these nauseous odors that nobody else could
smell.

It led her to believe others were plotting against
her, all manner of things.

Just sayin'

Yea, I don't believe in spirits. I was just repeating Sky Rivers words back to them so they might see how condescending they were being.

 

[Sky Rivers]

What if YOUR religion is a deception authored by malevolent spirits and a mad ideology? I think you should research further and put your experience and bias aside and reconsider your position.

I have studied many religions and mythologies through the years. I’m not concerned.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Selective reading, choice of interpretation lets the bible
or koran say any-thing you may want it to.

Yes, With selective reading.

I can’t speak for the Koran.

As you know, the Bible is a huge book, and it sets forth specific ideas throughout its entirety. If one has an inaccurate understanding of a particular aspect, they will eventually (during comprehensive study) and inevitably find other verses that contradict their view which can’t be reconciled.

I’ve adjusted my understanding many times, in studying it. And Luke 10:21 is important....it can’t be discounted. No amount of wishing will change it.

Take care.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Everyone deserves to be called evil, period.

No, we don't. Don't project your apparent masochistic self-hatred on everyone.

 

[Audie]

Yes, With selective reading.

I can’t speak for the Koran.

As you know, the Bible is a huge book, and it sets forth specific ideas throughout its entirety. If one has an inaccurate understanding of a particular aspect, they will eventually (during comprehensive study) and inevitably find other verses that contradict their view which can’t be reconciled.

I’ve adjusted my understanding many times, in studying it. And Luke 10:21 is important....it can’t be discounted. No amount of wishing will change it.

Take care.

Luke is important? I guess so, it is so vague,
you can infallibly interpret it most any way.

What does it mean to you?

Inaccurate understanding. And you think
there really was a flood.

All you guys think you have special god-granted
powers that give access to arcane knowledge.

It has huge appeal to the lower rungs of society,
so's they can be wiser, richer than them stuck up
rich and college educated people. The snobs,
they will be sorry!

It appeals to anyone who can talk himself into
believing it, or, talk others into thinking he has
these powers, given "of" god.

But, you know, it is all lo here and lo there. One
infallible always contradicts another.

Seeing your track record on interpretation of other
things, such as ye frozen mammoths, sorry-ah,
I would not rely on your interpretation of a street map.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Revelation 19:21,"And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of him who sat upon the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh". "A third of mankind will be killed" with "fire", smoke and sulfur" (Revelation 9:18), which proceeds out of the mouth of the "horses". As for Isaiah 11:4, it is the "wicked", sinners, which will be slayed. Which is to say, your average "Christian"/sinner, follower of the false prophet Paul, is looking at a bad time in the old town tonight. As for Revelation 19:14-16, it is the "nations"/Gentiles who will be "smitten", and ruled with a "rod of iron".
Revelation 9:17 The horses and riders I saw in my vision looked like this: Their breastplates were fiery red, dark blue, and yellow as sulfur. The heads of the horses resembled the heads of lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke and sulfur.
Revelation 9:7 The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they wore something like crowns of gold, and their faces resembled human faces.

In brief, chapter 9 of Revelation is Not part of the battle of Revelation 19:14-16; Isaiah 11:3-4.