"I read the news today, oh boy"

[sun rise]

I collected these in about the past 24 hours. When I thought about putting them together the Beatles song title wandered into my mind and stayed there.

7 men arrested after allegedly harassing Black family on Oregon beach

Florida Conservative: ‘Beyoncé is not even African-American’ and song ‘Formation’ is a secret code

Black militia marches through Georgia Confederate park on July 4: ‘I’m in yo’ house’

(“I want the heart of the Ku Klux Klan to hear me no matter where … you are,” he said. “I’m in yo’ house. Where you at? You made a threat. We don’t threat. We don’t scare, ’cause we don’t care.”)

Right-Wing Militias Found No Antifa Event at Gettysburg—So Harassed a Man in Cemetery Instead

White Walmart customer caught on video pushing ‘thug’ employee because his pants are ‘too low’

This town of 170,000 replaced some cops with medics and mental health workers. It's worked for over 30 years

1 Dead After Car Hits 2 Seattle Protesters On Closed Freeway

Aggressive anti-mask customers are forcing some restaurants to shut dining rooms to protect employees from abuse

My comments? These songs express it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Bye bye American pie.....

 

[The Hammer]

We live in trying times indeed.

 

[Mindmaster]

I collected these in about the past 24 hours. When I thought about putting them together the Beatles song title wandered into my mind and stayed there.

Or, you could realize that like the crack dealer will always love to sell you more crack, so too will the media love to sell you more misery if you continue to take the bait and click the links. Traffic slumped off on COVID so they're not talking about it as much, and they're mostly using race rage to bait people off discussing the serious problems with Joe Biden. (Just called himself his own wife the other day, lol.) It's an absolute distraction tactic... I mean, if they were reporting the news accurately for these protests they'd probably mention the fact that every single person in power in these states where there is "racial injustice" were Democrats. (And I mean everyone... from the cops, the chiefs, the mayors, county officials, the governors, and so on...) They do other silly things with this material too -- like if a white person is a victim of a black person then they don't mention the color of the assailant or the victim, but if it happens to be the other way the colors are mentioned. They're trying to play on people's fears to make money and that's all it is.

While what's inside people's heads is important, it's more important to see what's going on outside and understand the feelings of your local neighbors. I assure you if you do that the whole world will feel a bit less apocalyptic. The media will print crazy stuff, but is the crazy going on in your neighborhood? Probably not... Thus, it's a small event blown way out of proportion. (There is always a certain amount of crazy going on, it's just whether it gets reported or not just depends on whether they think they can make money with it.)

 

[Left Coast]

Or, you could realize that like the crack dealer will always love to sell you more crack, so too will the media love to sell you more misery if you continue to take the bait and click the links. Traffic slumped off on COVID so they're not talking about it as much,

Do you enjoy being wrong about, like, everything, all the time?

New Cases of COVID-19 In World Countries

and they're mostly using race rage to bait people off discussing the serious problems with Joe Biden. (Just called himself his own wife the other day, lol.)

Yes, the intellectual powerhouse you're rationalizing a vote for is really top notch.

 

[Mindmaster]

Do you enjoy being wrong about, like, everything, all the time?
New Cases of COVID-19 In World Countries

Rather be wrong, than miserable. But, since I can have my cake and eat it too here: (We're about at 250 deaths/day now.)

source: United States Coronavirus: 2,985,490 Cases and 132,610 Deaths - Worldometer

Yes, the intellectual powerhouse you're rationalizing a vote for is really top notch.

It's more of a vote for someone who will probably do nothing to screw up anything because he's pretty much the status quo versus someone like Biden who's just going to be driven like a puppet by someone else who's pulling the strings. (Whoever that is, they're unelected, and who knows.)

Anyway, I'll forgive you for your misunderstandings. It's between you and your God to figure out, not me. **mod edit** I don't hate Democrats, I just reject racial politics completely. They're banking on that stuff so they can kick rocks. They're just modern-day living neanderthals asking us to roll back the clock 150 years, and I'm not interested.

 

[Left Coast]

Rather be wrong, than miserable.

Yes I know. Your politics are driven by your feelings, not facts. You've made that clear before, I'm aware.

COVID Cases Are Rising. COVID Deaths Are Declining. Why?

It's more of a vote for someone who will probably do nothing to screw up anything because he's pretty much the status quo versus someone like Biden who's just going to be driven like a puppet by someone else who's pulling the strings. (Whoever that is, they're unelected, and who knows.)

Fascinating fact-free analysis.

 

[Mindmaster]

Fascinating fact-free analysis.

Meh, there are so many videos of Biden displaying his failing mental capacity that even my Democratic friends are gasping and they're not watching videos from conservative sources. Those people are dyed-in-the-wool Dems, BTW. People so vehemently Dem that when I voted Trump they stopped talking to me. Yet, they too see this flaw. Is it truly my opinion? But, let me solve that for you, I have nothing to win or lose... Watch all his interviews from CNN and his Townhalls, it's totally freaking aggravating to me that they'd put this man up here and basically tarnish him because that's easier than admitting that they're wrong.

Truthfully, no ill will to Biden though, I think he needs help, lots of care, and a nice comfortable retirement. We all get old, and father time is just kicking his ***. If this election happened right after Obama's term, I may have felt differently, but it is what it is. Right now, I think they could have run nearly any other candidate that they had brought to the debate and had a more functional nominee. He's still not nominated technically... If they knew what they were doing they'd swap him at the convention, lol.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Rather be wrong, than miserable.

Thank you for your honesty. It calls to mind ...

Come gather 'round, people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin'
And you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'
- Bob Dylan​

 

[Left Coast]

Meh, there are so many videos of Biden displaying his failing mental capacity that even my Democratic friends are gasping and they're not watching videos from conservative sources. Those people are dyed-in-the-wool Dems, BTW. People so vehemently Dem that when I voted Trump they stopped talking to me. Yet, they too see this flaw. Is it truly my opinion? But, let me solve that for you, I have nothing to win or lose... Watch all his interviews from CNN and his Townhalls, it's totally freaking aggravating to me that they'd put this man up here and basically tarnish him because that's easier than admitting that they're wrong.

Truthfully, no ill will to Biden though, I think he needs help, lots of care, and a nice comfortable retirement. We all get old, and father time is just kicking his ***. If this election happened right after Obama's term, I may have felt differently, but it is what it is. Right now, I think they could have run nearly any other candidate that they had brought to the debate and had a more functional nominee. He's still not nominated technically... If they knew what they were doing they'd swap him at the convention, lol.

From where I'm sitting, he's not in any more cognitive decline than Trump, who slurs his words, has frequent difficulty both reading and spelling, gullibly accepts conspiracy theories, and is often just incoherent and screams into Twitter like an angry old man on his front porch.

So if for the same of argument we're going to equivocate and pretend Biden is as cognitively impaired as Trump, I'll take the one who's not a neo-fascist, any day.

 

[Mindmaster]

So if for the same of argument we're going to equivocate and pretend Biden is as cognitively impaired as Trump, I'll take the one who's not a neo-fascist, any day.

Hehe, neo-fascist. That's amusing. Do you have any proof of that? Like, any? Nah, nevermind, I was just playing. I don't have enough rusty shovels to dig to the bottom of that rabbit hole of misinformation.

That's the great thing about America is that people like you have never met an actual racist or fascist. I pray that continues to be the case forever.

 

[Revoltingest]

Or, you could realize that like the crack dealer will always love to sell you more crack, so too will the media love to sell you more misery if you continue to take the bait and click the links. Traffic slumped off on COVID so they're not talking about it as much, and they're mostly using race rage to bait people off discussing the serious problems with Joe Biden. (Just called himself his own wife the other day, lol.) It's an absolute distraction tactic... I mean, if they were reporting the news accurately for these protests they'd probably mention the fact that every single person in power in these states where there is "racial injustice" were Democrats. (And I mean everyone... from the cops, the chiefs, the mayors, county officials, the governors, and so on...) They do other silly things with this material too -- like if a white person is a victim of a black person then they don't mention the color of the assailant or the victim, but if it happens to be the other way the colors are mentioned. They're trying to play on people's fears to make money and that's all it is.

While what's inside people's heads is important, it's more important to see what's going on outside and understand the feelings of your local neighbors. I assure you if you do that the whole world will feel a bit less apocalyptic. The media will print crazy stuff, but is the crazy going on in your neighborhood? Probably not... Thus, it's a small event blown way out of proportion. (There is always a certain amount of crazy going on, it's just whether it gets reported or not just depends on whether they think they can make money with it.)

In short....
The news is presented in such a manner to trigger the most outrage.
This means ignoring news that doesn't serve this purpose.
People who dwell on this news are doomed to be outraged.
The "spotlight fallacy" creates their worldview.
One should seek out non-news sources that present a larger & less angry picture.

 

[Left Coast]

Hehe, neo-fascist. That's amusing. Do you have any proof of that? Like, any? Nah, nevermind, I was just playing. I don't have enough rusty shovels to dig to the bottom of that rabbit hole of misinformation.

I already presented you with ample verifiable facts in the last two threads we've interacted in, and you waved it all away and then admitted you reject the evidence because it's too emotionally painful for you.

So when you're ready to have a conversation based on evidence, rather than your desire to avoid being uncomfortable, let me know.

 

[Mindmaster]

In short....
The news is presented in such a manner to trigger the most outrage.
This means ignoring news that doesn't serve this purpose.
People who dwell on this news are doomed to be outraged.
The "spotlight fallacy" creates their worldview.
One should seek out non-news sources that present a larger picture.

The worst thing about it is people's worldviews essentially being shaped largely by chasing ghosts. (AKA. things that really do not exist.)

It also incentivizes them to continue to create the click-bait news. This is why I say always, "don't click it" to people. It's not that you shouldn't find your news, it's that you should know a click-bait title and realize all you're getting after that is emotional spew.

 

[Revoltingest]

The worst thing about it is people's worldviews essentially being shaped largely by chasing ghosts. (AKA. things that really do not exist.)

It also incentivizes them to continue to create the click-bait news. This is why I say always, "don't click it" to people. It's not that you shouldn't find your news, it's that you should know a click-bait title and realize all you're getting after that is emotional spew.

If one wants a daily fix.....examples of blacks as victims,
& whites as perps...there's no better place than RF.
But it's not good for one's soul. People hopped up on
anger lash out..."Racist!"..."White privilege!".
It really gets in the way of civil discussion of issues.

 

[Mindmaster]

I already presented you with ample verifiable facts in the last two threads we've interacted in, and you waved it all away and then admitted you reject the evidence because it's too emotionally painful for you.

So when you're ready to have a conversation based on evidence, rather than your desire to avoid being uncomfortable, let me know.

Hmm, interesting. Well, if you feel you're making me uncomfortable why do you persist? If you think I'm mistaken or unintelligent, just block me. No compassion in your heart? Check.

Ok, so, I never admit anything about my feelings on here. Your comments are obviously a lie in that regard as it simply wouldn't happen. My feelings are only that the forum represents largely only one political viewpoint, and that doesn't "change" even to the level of mod or admin. This means most of your arguments are things I've responded to in the past and I'm simply tired of repeating it. My view is that most of these views are the types of views that can only be held by adult-aged children whom never suffered for real a day in their life, so I have no anger or hate just pity. Yes, that's what I feel only: pity. I'm not mad, sad, frustrated, or anything else... I feel sorry for people, and that's it. I don't care if I win or lose the debate because it's not about me, and it never was. No amount of information you would present will convert me to your religion, so if that's the goal, don't bother. I know who I am, and I don't need to be a part of anything which seems to make people hate-filled, miserable, and listless. Leftism to me is like a giant sucking garbage can for the souls of the weak. Those who have no center just circle it like flies are drawn to ****. They deserve better, and I hope they find it, but there is no draw for me. There ya go, see there are my "feelings"... That'll be about as feeling as I'll get for another 500 or so posts.

 

[Mindmaster]

If one wants a daily fix.....examples of blacks as victims,
& whites as perps...there's no better place than RF.
But it's not good for one's soul. People hopped up on
anger lash out..."Racist!"..."White privilege!".
It really gets in the way of civil discussion of issues.

Flies orbiting around turds (see my last post), and then wonder what's wrong with you because you got better things to do. Might be something to do with the fact that it obviously smells like crap. But, I digress...

I basically view Marxist Intersectionality as the product of poorly educated people, in that every place where it "took off" you have a population that has extremely low levels of capacity to process data. I'm blaming, "no child left behind", for now. I know people who graduated high school with 4th-grade math and reading comprehension. That's what you're dealing with, and it's a damn shame. They've been robbed. Do you think these people regardless of their color got a shot? The rest of the world is educated to college level with none of that "no child" nonsense, and you think you're going to win that competition? Pfft. These are the same people that are getting involved in the silly bleeding heart left. They aren't intellectuals anymore than the Neanderthals were -- it's not revolution, it's devolution. Taking us right back to where we were 150 years in the past.

 

[Left Coast]

Hmm, interesting. Well, if you feel you're making me uncomfortable why do you persist? If you think I'm mistaken or unintelligent, just block me.

What can I say? Hope springs eternal.

I have zero members blocked on RF. I have no reason, at this point, to start with you.

No compassion in your heart? Check.

Ok, so, I never admit anything about my feelings on here. Your comments are obviously a lie in that regard as it simply wouldn't happen.

You literally just said: "Rather be wrong, than miserable."

That is literally, verbatim, an admission that your political views are born not from factual analysis but from avoidance of emotional pain.

My feelings are only that the forum represents largely only one political viewpoint, and that doesn't "change" even to the level of mod or admin.

Your feelings are, yet again, factually wrong, but you haven't let that stop you yet.

This means most of your arguments are things I've responded to in the past and I'm simply tired of repeating it.

I feel the same about old, tired, "There is no racism anymore" nonsense.

My view is that most of these views are the types of views that can only be held by adult-aged children whom never suffered for real a day in their life, so I have no anger or hate just pity. Yes, that's what I feel only: pity. I'm not mad, sad, frustrated, or anything else... I feel sorry for people, and that's it. I don't care if I win or lose the debate because it's not about me, and it never was. No amount of information you would present will convert me to your religion, so if that's the goal, don't bother.

I'm well aware you're too caught up in putting up psychological defenses to rationally consider evidence and change your view to match as appropriate. Your projection about "adult-age children whom never suffered for real a day in their life" is transparent, coming from someone who has been sheltered enough to believe racism or neo-fascism doesn't exist.

My goal, to be clear, isn't to convert you to anything. My goal is to challenge your many factless assertions and poor reasoning.

I know who I am, and I don't need to be a part of anything which seems to make people hate-filled, miserable, and listless.

And so yet again, you admit your worldview is based on avoidance of emotional pain, not on whether it actually matches the verifiable facts of reality. Thank you.

Leftism to me is like a giant sucking garbage can for the souls of the weak. Those who have no center just circle it like flies are drawn to ****. They deserve better, and I hope they find it, but there is no draw for me. There ya go, see there are my "feelings"... That'll be about as feeling as I'll get for another 500 or so posts.

That was quite telling. Thank you.

 

[Father Heathen]

@Mindmaster and @Revoltingest, If all of the news outlets are part of some vast, convoluted conspiracy to mislead us, what alternative do you recommend as the most accurate and objective source for those who desire to be thoroughly informed about events both local, national, and global? You must have a pretty solid and trustworthy one to know with confidence that police corruption, racial inequality, and the pandemic are all exagerated/fabricated.

 

[Mindmaster]

That is literally, verbatim, an admission that your political views are born not from factual analysis but from avoidance of emotional pain.

And, if that's true are they less valid? (Obviously, it's not. It's not for anyone, but why worry about that whole nasty hyperbole thing.)

Your feelings are, yet again, factually wrong, but you haven't let that stop you yet.

Depends on the facts you accept, but that's the case for anyone. We're under no duty to accept anything blindly, are we?

I feel the same about old, tired, "There is no racism anymore" nonsense.

Absolutely? Nah, there are always racists who are in the bleeding heart left and the far right. Can't completely stop it, just like you aren't going to stop stupid. But, for the majority of the population that's true, so it's no longer a government problem other than to deal with hate crimes that barely ever happen.

I'm well aware you're too caught up in putting up psychological defenses to rationally consider evidence and change your view to match as appropriate. Your projection about "adult-age children whom never suffered for real a day in their life" is transparent, coming from someone who has been sheltered enough to believe racism or neo-fascism doesn't exist.

Actually, I knew a great many racists growing up but that's a long time ago. It's out of fashion, it was basically non-existent by the time I hit adulthood. All of those people are dead because they were grandpa-aged about 50 years ago, lol. Their children and the children of those people (me) never had racism in their presence at all. (Our parents were hippies, yippies, or whatever.)

The largest depository of racism and fascism (for real) right now is the prison system and the people frequent it. Hard saying whether they really believe it, or just pretend so they can survive, but that's about the be-all-end-all. There were white power jerks when I grew up, but all of them quit. I don't feel it's a permanent affliction, but something fatherless poor white kids get into.

And so yet again, you admit your worldview is based on avoidance of emotional pain, not on whether it actually matches the verifiable facts of reality. Thank you.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, as this is literally the point of everyone's belief system, lol.